Mark Arzillo

Thanks Paul. I just submitted a ticket. Since disabling the looping programs I did get another unsolicited reboot today at 9:27pm.

Paul, Thanks for the feedback... I have 57 total programs. 18 are disabled (ran on 1 minute loop) and the other 39 are enabled. Memory looks good. Total: 3956MB, Reserved: 395MB, Used: 10MB, Bad: 0MB, Free: 3550MB. I don't see any tight loop programs running as the ones I had running based on time last ran + 1 minute are disabled. They were more me testing out concepts anyway so nothing critical. After disabling the timer programs I had (9 total) that with an If Time is Last Run Time for 'program name' + 1 minute I have not had any reboots but it's only been a few hours. Typical only see the reboot once per day and sometimes twice. I'll give it a few days and see what happens. If I get no reboots I'm going to enable those programs again to see if the reboots come back. That will confirm that it's those +1 minute programs causing the issue. Having said that, I don't see why a program running once per minute would cause this or be considered a "tight running program". Perhaps it's my lack of knowledge on how the ISY processes state and executes programs. I'm quite familiar with many programming languages (been a developer for 30+ years) but the ISY is a bit different than what I have worked with in the past.

In my case I do not have an "If" clause. Each time it reboots (or I got the reboot message) I verify by looking at the startup time in the System Status. I verified that each reboot message did, in fact, get caused by an actual reboot as noted in the startup time. I wouldn't have thought a 1 minute timer would overload the system. One second loops yes, but not not one minute loops. In any case I had 9 loop programs that ran every minute to track the time on or off for a given device including the ISY itself. I've disabled all of them but am keeping the reboot notify active to see if I still see the random reboots. Thanks for the tip Teken. Hopefully that stops the random reboots.

A few days ago I added a program that runs at startup and sends me an email saying the ISY restarted. I added some additional info such as how long it has been running prior to the reboot. After doing that I am noticing the ISY has restarted on its own 4 times. Anyone have any idea why this might be happening? Restarted on 2018/01/04 at 1:07:46 AM - Last Runtime was 234 minutes Restarted on 2018/01/03 at 9:12:10 PM - Last Runtime was 2866 minutes Restarted on 2018/01/01 at 9:24:34 PM - Last Runtime was 32 minutes Restarted on 2018/01/01 at 8:51:12 PM - Last Runtime was 289 minutes

That would make sense then. I didn't know that. I was assuming that if motion turned on again a second timer would start and turn the lights off a second time. I just wrote a quick program to test that and sure enough the wait resets. Nice!

Technically, the OP was looking for motion sensor recommendations but it has morphed into a discussion on programming motion sensors. Sent from my XT1710-02 using Tapatalk

What happens if you come out of the elevator when the laundry room lights are off and you hang around the laundry room for 2+ minutes? Do the lights turn off on you?

Back to the original topic of recommendations for motion sensors. I decided to purchase the Aeotec MultiSensor 6 to see how that goes. It's a bit expensive at $60 but I like the multi-sensor capability so maybe it's worth it. I'll be installing it using a Recessor Mount and it will be plugged into a power outlet that I have in the loft area it will be mounted to. It should look very nice when done so hopefully the functionality will be satisfactory. I also decided to purchase some more GE Z-Wave Plus wall switches (have several already) and an Aeotec Range Extender in hopes to extend my Z-Wave network to my detached garage which sits about 120ft from my house. I'm going to first jump to my well house which sits around 40 ft from the house and then to the garage. We'll see how all of that goes. Looking forward to everything getting here so I can start playing. Should be here before the weekend.

Based on what you posted it should work. What is happening? Regardless, that is not, in my opinion a good way of doing what it appears you are trying to accomplish. Basically the light turns off no matter if someone is still in the laundry room or not. It seems like what you are looking to do is light the room for 2 minutes if someone comes out of the elevator and just walks by / through the laundry room however you do not want the light in the laundry room to turn off if someone is still in it. It could be the person who came out of the elevator or someone who was already in the room but nevertheless you would not want to turn out the light if there is motion in the laundry room (assuming you have a motion sensor there). If my assumptions are correct, what you want is something that turns the lights on when there is motion outside the elevator or in the laundry room and only turn off the lights if motion has stopped for a set period of time in the laundry room. Using a state variable to track how long it has been since motion was detected would be a way to do that and then only turn off the lights if the state variable is greater than your set time frame. Each time your motion sensor in the laundry room detects motion set the variable to zero. Then have a program that increments it by one each minute. Lastly have a program that says if the state var is > 2 (or whatever you want) turn the lights off.

How about you have the motion sensor turn on the light if there is motion and then start a state var that counts the minutes since motion was last detected in the laundry room. Each time motion is detected you set the state var to 0. Have an alternate program that increments the state each minute. Then have a program turn off the lights if motion has not been detected in laundry room for X minutes using the state var. I've never programmed for motion yet since I am still searching for the ones I want but in theory this should work. I've played around with light switches like this to where I don't auto turn off lights at a specific time if they were recently turned on. The idea being a human turned them on and they likely do not want them turned off. Once I get motion sensors this will change to incorporate motion in the logic.

MWareman & sandrysibert, I assume you are talking about the MultiSensor 6 (ZW100), correct? Amazon has them for $55.95 and a 2 pack for $104.95. There are mixed reviews where some indicate the humidity sensor is not accurate and the range on the motion is inadequate. That would not work in my environment as I have large open spaces in my house. Also, at least one review indicates it does not work well with UDI but no specifics. Never heard about the ghost phenomenon you are talking about. How often does it happen to you? Based on the reviews on Amazon I would not likely purchase this sensor for the price. Their web site is impressive but that's just good marketing and often doesn't reflect the effectiveness of the device. Would you continue to purchase these after your experience with them? Scott, I don't see any Insteon motion sensor for $22 on Amazon. Can you provide a link? dennisric, I was considering the Insteon Motion Sensor II (2844-222) but based on your post as well as this thread I'm very hesitant. Do these work at all on the ISY or are they totally useless until the update finally comes out? Seems like the 5.x build has been in Alpha since May 2015 (2 years 6 months ago) which doesn't give me a good feeling on when we might expect it to be released to GA. Thank you all for the suggestions. I'm still however not any closer to making a decision as to which motion sensors to purchase. The CAO tags are interesting but I'm not a fan of needing access to the Internet for them to work. I like the Aeotec MultiSensor 6 and the Insteon 2844-222 for their features and ergonomics and would likely lean towards the Insteon but based on the reviews neither are very good at this time. The search continues...

Anyone have any recommendations for motion sensors? I've read through many of the posts and see people having trouble with several of them. Anyone with opinions or direct experience with the following models? Also, are there others you may suggest? Aeotec by Aeon Labs Gen5 Z-wave Plus 6-in-1 Multisensor 6 ZW100-A Looks to be one of the best but it is a bit pricey at $58 on Amazon. Also, based on this thread it may not be ready for prime time with the ISY. BeSense ZWave Ceiling PIR Motion Detector for SmartThingsPretty cheep at $30 on Amazon but not sure if it will work with ISY. Questions on Amazon indicate it does. Z-wave Plus Motion Detector, Easy to install with PET Immunity, White (PIRZWAVE2.5-ECO)A bit expensive at $56 and based on this thread may not work very well. Insteon 2842-222 Wireless Motion SensorGets decent reviews, very expensive at $64.

I'm having this same issue so it's not just you. Was going to post the same thing but found this thread. Looking forward to an update/fix.