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Changing Hue color/temperature with the light off.
Chevelle replied to Chevelle's topic in IoX Program Support
I appreciate the replies. Just a few things... These bulbs are in end table lights. They are not on any switches so they get controlled by one of two ways, either programmatically through IoX or through Alexa. Under normal circumstances, I run the Bedtime program when I tell Alexa that "It's bedtime." This is where I set the colors to blue, wait 10 minutes, and set them back to white. 30 minutes before sunset, the Sunset program runs. Among other lights in the house that are turned on, the end table lights are set to white and turned on 50%. This is the first place when they would be guaranteed to be set to white. That would makes the setting of them to white in the Bedtime program unnecessary. Honestly, it hasn't yet come up but the reason that I want to set them back to white in the Bedtime routine is so that IF I ever tell Alexa to turn on those light before the Sunset program is run, they would come back up blue. It is not the end of world. It is just a tidying up thing. -
Changing Hue color/temperature with the light off.
Chevelle replied to Chevelle's topic in IoX Program Support
Below is the code. As you can see, when it start, the light turn blue. The ones in the living room are at full brightness. The ones in the bedroom are at a brightess level of 2. After 10 minutes, all the lights go to a brightness level of 1. This the darkest they can be and still be on. That is when the color is set back to 3000°. It isn't noticeable in the living room because I'm not there but it is noticeable in the bedroom. It isn't a big deal but it is noticeable. This is more of a situation of it not being exactly what I want, not being a real problem. According to Hue, the color cannot be changed without the light being on. However, ChatGBT say it can if HSB settings are changed and not color. Unfortunately, that did not work. I don't think ChatGBT is correct here. DoBedtime - [ID 0005][Parent 0001] If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Set 'Bedroom / End Table1' Set Color Blue Set 'Bedroom / End Table1' Set Brightness 2 Set 'Bedroom / End Table2' Set Color Blue Set 'Bedroom / End Table2' Set Brightness 2 Set 'Bedroom / Bedroom Fan' 30% Set 'Dining Room / Dining Room Light' Off Set 'Kitchen / Kitchen Table Light' Off Set 'Living Room / Floor1' Set Color Blue Set 'Living Room / Floor2' Set Color Blue Set 'Living Room / Floor1' Set Brightness 254 Set 'Living Room / Floor2' Set Brightness 254 Set 'Living Room / Grandfather Clock' Off Set 'Living Room / Table Lamp' Off Wait 10 minutes Set 'Bedroom / End Table1' Set Brightness 1 Set 'Bedroom / End Table1' Color Temperature 3000K Brightness 1 in 0 ms Set 'Bedroom / End Table1' Off Set 'Bedroom / End Table2' Set Brightness 1 Set 'Bedroom / End Table2' Color Temperature 3000K Brightness 1 in 0 ms Set 'Bedroom / End Table2' Off Set 'Living Room / Floor1' Set Brightness 1 Set 'Living Room / Floor1' Color Temperature 3000K Brightness 1 in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Floor1' Off Set 'Living Room / Floor2' Set Brightness 1 Set 'Living Room / Floor2' Color Temperature 3000K Brightness 1 in 0 ms Set 'Living Room / Floor2' Off Set 'Living Room / Grandfather Clock' Off Set 'Living Room / Living Room Fan Light' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') -
I have a "Bedtime" program that sets several Hue lights to a dark blue. After a set wait time, they are turned off. When other programs are run, they reset the hue lights to the color/temperature that I want. However, if I want to turn on any of those lights before a program is run, the color will still be that dark blue. The obvious solution is to add lines that reset the color/temperature to the default value that I want. The problem is that any time the color/temperature is changed, the lights turn on. I don't what the lights that are in the bedroom that are already off, to flash white during the color change. There was just one post on this subject back in 2020 with no response. Doing a search came up with that it can be done if the HSV (HSB) values are changed. This supposedly can be done without changing the state of the light. Unfortunately, that did not work. The best I could do was to change the brightness to 1 and then change the color. Doable but in a dark room, still noticeable. So the question is, how can the color/temperature of a Hue light be changed and have the light remain off?
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Z-Wave, GE Fan Controller, Aeotec Range Extender
Chevelle replied to Chevelle's topic in IoX Program Support
Oh bloody hell! I have finally figured this out. It was at the EISY end. For the record, I tried everything that seemed to make sense. I "healed" the network. I did the factory reset on the GE devices. Nothing. Finally, I looked at the Synchronize options. I have no idea what that means or does. For the hell of it, I selected New & Deleted with Interview. No idea. I then went and selected the option to remove devices and hit the buttons on the second controller. I did it again and hit the buttons on the third controller. I then attempted to add a new Z-Wave device and viola, the second controller added. I then added the third controller. What a pain and I still don't know what the syncrhronize stuff is or if that had anything to do with the solution. I should also point out that the first controller, the one that added just fine in the beginning, was a new one, right out of the box. The second and third were ones from the previous house. I don't know if that had anything to do with this, especially since I did a factory reset on them, several times. Anyway, I am back in business, until I hit another wall down the line. -
Z-Wave, GE Fan Controller, Aeotec Range Extender
Chevelle replied to Chevelle's topic in IoX Program Support
Honesty, I now think it is an issue with the EISY/Dongle. I moved the EISY into the living room. It is now probably 30' from the first fan controller although there is an extender between them. That controller still works fine within IoX. The second controller is about 12' from the EISY and line of sight. No obstructions or walls. IoX can't discover it. There is an extender about 10' away down the hall and it blinks when the second controller buttons are pressed. That means that the controller is putting out Z-Wave and it is being seen by the extender. It is just not being seen by the EISY/IoX. Awfully frustrating. -
Z-Wave, GE Fan Controller, Aeotec Range Extender
Chevelle replied to Chevelle's topic in IoX Program Support
Thanks for the replies. I am dealing with fan controllers so they are installed in the walls. I can't move them around. The first fan controller is located in the same room as the EISY and Z-Wave dongle, about 18 feet away. This is the controller that IoX can see and it all works fine. An Aeotec Extender 6 is in the next room about 10 feet away from the first controller. The second fan controller is 12 feet way from that extender. Another extender is 12 feet way from the second fan controller. The third fan controller is 10 feet away from the second extender. These distances don't seem all that long. Leaving out the extenders, there is 18 feet between the dongle and first controller, 22 feet between the first and second controller and 22 feet between the second and third controller. I would think the controllers are close enough to talk to eachother, even without the extenders. Interesting observation... When I am at the second controller (living room ceiling fan), when I press the switch to turn the fan on or off, the green light on both extenders go on for about a second. That would seem that the extenders see the controller. (I cannot see the extenders if I am in the room with the first fan controller.) Any ideas? -
I recently moved to a new house and am starting from scratch with a new installation of EISY. I have left over Aeotec Range Extender 6 devices as well as several GE Smart Fan controls. After adding the USB Z-Wave dongle, I was able add one fan to the system. It happens to be in the same room as the EISY. I have not been able to add the two additional fan controllers to the system. They are farther away but I would still think they would be close enough. I have not been able to add the Aeotech Range Extender 6 units either. Any thoughts? As a bonus help question, When the fan controller was added, the list includes the dimmer, scene responder, switch all, basic assoc 2, and basic assoc 3. I get the dimmer. That is the fan and it works fine. What are the others? Thanks.
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IoX won't allowing Inteon device changes
Chevelle replied to Chevelle's topic in IoX Program Support
So how is one to know all of this? If a feature is not available, one convention is to have the option grayed out. "Pro"?? That's a new one for me. I guess I'll have to look into what that is. -
IoX won't allowing Inteon device changes
Chevelle replied to Chevelle's topic in IoX Program Support
Oh geeze. Poor execution but let's go with that for now. So then why doesn't the ACTUAL buttons labeled "Write Changes" and "Write Updates to Device" NOT work? -
I recently moved and am setting up a whole new system now that I have moved from the ISY994 to the EISY box. As personal preference, I like most of my lights to have a 2 second turn on and turn off rate. When a new device is added, it defaults to .5 seconds. When I use IoX and try to set the ramp rate, writing the change to the device doesn't work. I have tried using the "Write Changes" option at the bottom of the screen as well as the "Write Updates to the Device" when right clicking on the device in the device tree. However, it all works if I use the app on my phone. Any thoughts before I open a ticket? Thanks.
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I have several different lights in the livingroom. Grandfather Clock - An Insteon on/off module that turns on and off the light in the clock Floor Light1 - One floor "up light" Floor Light2 - Another floor "up light" Table Lamp - a Hue color bulb in a table lamp Fan Light - The lights in the ceiling fan All of these respond OK with Alexa. I will group the two floor lights so that they both do the same thing when commanded instead of having to command them separately. I am not sure why, but things are working better now after fiddling with things. I am not sure if Alexa has "learned" anything or that I am now doing things slightly differently. I have an IoX program called DoSunset. It affects most of the lights on my system, not just the livingroom. It automatically runs 30 minutes before sunset. If it is cloudy, sometimes I want it to run earlier and so I have it setup to run by Alexa when I ask. If found that if I set the spoken word in the portal to "It's Sunset" and also set the voice command in Alexa to "It's Sunset", it runs. I have a "TV Time" scene for when I want to watch television. It doesn't work if I have the Alexa voice command set to "It's TV Time" but it does work if the voice command is just "TV Time." I had the same problem in my last house when I had scenes for watching television in the family room and for the home theater. "It's TV Time" and "It's Movie Time" did not work but if they were just "TV Time" and "Movie Time", they worked. Just quirks of Alexa.
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I recently moved and am setting up my home automation from scratch. (I moved from the old ISY box to EISY.) After a few initial hiccups, I am adding more devices and integrating more with Alexa. One of my programs is called DoSunset. When it is 30 minutes before sunset, several of the lights in the house go on. It all works great. That program is also added to Alexa. The spoken word is "It's Sunset." Here is the issue. When I tell Alexa, "It's Sunset" it goes to the Big Sky skill and starts telling me about when sunset will be. My other programs are working fine with Alexa but this one gets fouled up. I realize this is an Alexa thing but has anyone else run across this and how did you get around it?
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With all these meetings, I won't have any time to be addicted any more!
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There is a saying in the radio controlled model airplane community.. "I'm not addicted to flying RC. I can stop any time I want to.... I just don't want to." I think it applies to home automation as well.
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Talk about fast paced learning! It had only been a few days and I am into this big time. It is like some kind of addiction. A soon as I implement one capability it's, "OK. What's next!" All that is missing is a sinister laugh along with the wringing of hands. Anyway, I moved away from UDI Mobile and now do it with IFTTT and Webhooks. It took a while for things to settle down as I tweaked but it looks like everything is working as it should. I found that it was important to have a relatively large GeoFence to have everything work reliably. (In my case, the radius is about 1/4 mile.) Now, my garage doors close after I have left the area if I forget to close them before I leave (although with all this effort, I will probably never forget again) and the floodlights come on in the driveway when I enter the area if it is between sunset and sunrise. Cool stuff. Gotta go now. The Raspberry Pi just arrived to be used for PolyGlot (MmuuuuAhhhhaaaa)