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I don't have anything yet but I will take a stab at it and let you know.

At this point you have to use the std method... put 2 fingers on the display and slide them togther or apart depending on whether zooming in or out. This does get a little old after a while but it works.

Hi Michel, This is just a suggestion but... I like the flexibility of the ISY's Web UI and while a full blown app would be nice, I am not sure it is really necessary. There are numerous things you can do with iPhone specific meta tags that would make your web UI very functional under safari. See this thread: http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-full-screen-webapps The iPhone/iTouch makes great controller platform for the ISY. With a few more simple steps it could be awesome and you don't even need Apples approval. Just my $.02 Thx,

I think the iTouch makes a great controller. Use the html scene/device lists and double-tapping on each list will zoom in automatically. Good luck.

Thanks Joe, That is pretty cool! I can see how you do this now (although it resulted in a mild brain cramp first). I like this idea. I have numerous outside lights and low voltage devices and one 8 button keypad link in the garage. 8 buttons is just not enough, I need about 12 to control everything individually. I don't want to have to cut out another gang. I think I will try something like this. Thanks, -jeffd

Triggering the folder and the programs in contains seems like it could be a little tricky. Could you just put your initialization code in a single program and set it to "Run at Reboot" in the program summary screen?

Joe, How many programs did you end up creating? Is it one for each house/unit code? Would you care to share some examples?

I noticed SH is now taking preorders for thier new IRLinc. Having already invested in the 26, I was wondering if it will support the IRLinc? Have you seen/tested any beta versions? Just curious? Thanks, -jeff

Mike, You are absolutely right. I knew I should have tested that before I opened my big mouth. I was actually wrong on two counts. I was trying to make the point that the staus should always reflect the correct state. If fact it does in your program because, as soon as the button goes out, the staus goes to false. Second, You intent is not to determine if the scene is true, your intent is to turn the button off if it's NOT. It was a good, although, painful lesson for me. I have been programming for a long time but I have found that when dealing with the ISY, it is better to throw that experience out the door and test, test, test. LOL -jeff

Mike, I have a suggestion for you which I suppose is a matter of style more than anything else but I find it useful. I actually started a thread on this and then deleted it, not sure why? The suggestion has to do with this code: If ( Status 'KitchenBar1' is not 90% Or Status 'KitchenMain1' is not 50% Or Status 'KitchenTable1' is not Off ) And Status 'KitchenControls1G' is not Off Then Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'KitchenBreakfastStatus' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') It seems like your intent is to resolve the question "Is the Breakfast Scene Set?" While your program works, it seems to use "Inverse" logic. The result being that the "status" of the program does not follow your intent although your button does. The program will be "True" when the scene is NOT set. I actually haven't tested this so I could be wrong here but, it reads that way to me. The "status" is not really a functional requirement but it may save you some confusion later on if it is managed consistently. It is often helpful if the button and the staus follow the intent. Here is another way to do this: If Status 'KitchenBar1' is 90% and Status 'KitchenMain1' is 50% and Status 'KitchenTable1' is Off Then Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'KitchenBreakfastStatus' On Else Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'KitchenBreakfastStatus' Off In this case all is well. If the scene is set then the LED will be lit and the programs staus will be true to indicate it. If not, it all goes false. A variation on this might be to put the "then" logic in the condition. You can do this if you don't want to turn the button on in your program. I haven't actually tested this program, I am using it as an example but I hope what I am trying to say makes sense. Enjoy, -jeff

Sure! This may be the only case where one is better than two.

Chris, You can do this with a simple program on the ISY. If Control 'Kitchen Fan Switch' is switched Fast On And Control 'Kitchen Fan Switch' is not switched Fast Off Then Set 'Kitchen Fan' On Else Set 'Kitchen Fan' Off Substitute your devices and it should work fine. Of course, If you have a local load on the switch it will activate also. Good Luck, -jeff

In a future release, could you add a programming action that could write a user defined message to the log? I have numerous instances where this could be useful. Thanks!

I had the same experience! Couldn't add it manually, had to use start linking. KPL's always keep it interesting.

Mike, I am sorry I didn't answer you on that one. I did try that link a couple of times, even early on, and it didn't seem to have any effect. I wish I knew what caused it to collapse? I don't remember minimiizing the window but, I suppose I could have? One good think came out of all of this, I now know a lot more about Vista that I did before... lol I have been experimenting to see if I can get it to happen again and I can't duplicate it yet. I get some weird things happening but the console always comes back. I have tried to get the web page to open up minimized and I can't even make that happen. I made a shortcut to iexplorer and set it to open minimized and it refuses to. Weird? Another strange thing is, If I minimize both the explorer window and the isy console and then close them using the right click. When I start it up again, the console window actually opens maximized. Go figure! Anyway, Vista seems to work pretty well for me. I haven't really had any problems until this happened. If I can figure out how it happened I'll let everyone know. Thanks! -jeff

Rand... You hit it on the head! I wish I had read your post 4 hours ago. I must have just missed it because I checked when I got home. LMAO. I hit on this almost by accident. I had tried everything and I mean everything and had given up. I was just clicking around on the screen when I right clicked the task bar and saw this option "Show windows stacked". I said sure... why not... and all of a sudden it popped open and I could actually see the console window. WOW!, I thought maybe it is actually running correctly it just wants me to log in. I killed that instance and tried again. This time I just entered my credentials even though I couldn't see the login and sure enough, it worked! I couldn't believe it! All this time, I thought the applet was being blocked from running somehow when it really wasn't. The reason it was locked up is because the login dialog is modal and I just couldn’t see it. Now that I have logged in successfully, it is working fine. I even went back to JRE Version 6 Update 3 and it still works fine. I am not sure whether I feel relieved or really stupid but I don't care at this point. I am just glad it's working! I want to thank everyone for their help, I really appreciate it! This is a really good group of people and the collective knowledge here is extremely valuable. I also want to thank Michel especially, he has been awesome! Yahoo! problem solved, now back to the ISY! -jd

Thank you.. good suggestion.. I will try that when I get home this evening and let you know what happens. I just purchased this box about a month ago. I don't really remember installing java and I remember being surpirised when I tried the ISY and it worked. I thought java was not distributed with Windows any more and so I figured it was something HP did. This is the first Vista box I have owned and I am kind of determined to make everything work. When this started happening I wanted to do a trace and looked in the Control Panel for the Java console. It wasn't there and that's usually where I go for it. Thats when I upgraded to _03 and the console reappeared but I did not uninstall the previous version which I now know was _01. It appears they are running side by side now although IE says it is using _03 This evening, I will uninstall both and reinstall _03 and see what happens. Thanks for the help! -jeffd

Thanks Mike.. Yes, I have rebooted numerous times. You said you have seen this before? Did you do anything repeatable that fixed it? At this point, I am at a complete loss? I don't think it is a browser issue because I get the same results in Firefox and IE7. I would be happy if either one fixed the problem. I have come to the conclusion it is somehow just a java/vista issue. My usual approach to this is "What did I change before it worked and didn't? In this case, nothing really.. I have a Cisco VPN client for work that I installed weeks ago but haven't been able to connect because because of config issues on our work server. Our admins made the required corrections and I tried it right before I left yesterday morning and it was the first time I was able to successfully connect. Since the actual client has been installed for weeks, I can't see how that would be the issue. Other than that I haven't really touched the computer. I have rebooted many times since then. I have tried many things and nothing seems to work. - I put the ISY in my local intranet zome - I have relaxed the security settings to low. - I have upgraded java to version _03 and made sure it was active in ie7. - I turned off protected mode in IE. - I have disabled all add-ins except java - i have disabled all firewalls, I do use Norton normally, - I read somehwere where turning off "Java in system tray" made a diff. I did that. - I have tried both firefox and IE. - I checked updates to see if anything changed? Defender had performed and update, that was it, but I have disabled it anyway. I have yet to see it successfully run since two nights ago. Yet it had worked fine for two weeks prior? I had been using it pretty heavily too. It does run on my XP laptop so I don't think there is any corruption in the jar file. Why me? Just when I think everything is working great something like this happens? Geez! I am ready to hate computers again! LOL

I have been playing around a little. I get the same results in Firefox 2.0. I have disabled Windows Defender and all firewalls. I still have the save problem. I was kind of hoping FireFox would work Now I am really stumped!

Yep, that's kind of why I posted this trace. I cleared the cache just before I ran this one. It actually says insteon.jar not found in cache and then proceeds to relaod it. Unfortunately, I never get to see it run for some reason. Thanks though!

OK, A really weird thing happened to me this evening. Last night, I was running the admin console for the ISY with no problems. This evening I try it and it will not run. I get the web page and I get a little closed container in the upper left of my screen but no application and it's all locked up. The container has minimze, maximize, and close buttons but they do nothing. Task manager shows IE and My Lighting are both running but to close them I have to kill them in task manager. I am running Vista and IE7 on a new HP box and version 2.5rc1 of the ISY Console. I don't beleive it really has anything to do with the ISY. I tested it on my XP laptop and it appears to be working fine there. Does anyone have any ideas? I am stumped! Thanks, jeffd If I run a trace in the Java console it looks pretty normal. See below.. Java Plug-in 1.6.0_03 Using JRE version 1.6.0_03 Java HotSpot Client VM liveconnect: Invoking JS method: document liveconnect: Invoking JS method: URL basic: Referencing classloader: sun.plugin.ClassLoaderInfo@a97b0b, refcount=1 basic: Added progress listener: sun.plugin.util.GrayBoxPainter@1decdec basic: Loading applet ... basic: Initializing applet ... basic: Starting applet ... basic: completed perf rollup network: Cache entry not found http:// network: Connecting http://192.168.1.xx:xxxxx/web/insteon.jar with proxy=DIRECT network: Downloading resource: http://192.168.1.xx:xxxxx/web/insteon.jar Content-Length: 553,980 Content-Encoding: null network: Wrote URL http://192.168.1.xx:xxxxx/web/insteon.jar to File C:\Users\jeff\AppData\LocalLow\Sun\Java\Deployment\cache\6.0\38\33634666-446b8b98-temp security: Loading Root CA certificates from C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE16~2.0_0\lib\security\cacerts security: Loaded Root CA certificates from C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE16~2.0_0\lib\security\cacerts security: Loading Deployment certificates from C:\Users\jeff\AppData\LocalLow\Sun\Java\Deployment\security\trusted.certs security: Loaded Deployment certificates from C:\Users\jeff\AppData\LocalLow\Sun\Java\Deployment\security\trusted.certs security: Loading certificates from Deployment session certificate store security: Loaded certificates from Deployment session certificate store security: Loading certificates from Internet Explorer ROOT certificate store security: Loaded certificates from Internet Explorer ROOT certificate store security: Loading certificates from Internet Explorer TrustedPublisher certificate store security: Loaded certificates from Internet Explorer TrustedPublisher certificate store security: Validate the certificate chain using CertPath API security: Obtain certificate collection in Root CA certificate store security: Obtain certificate collection in Root CA certificate store security: The CRL support is disabled security: The OCSP support is disabled security: No timestamping info available security: Checking if certificate is in Deployment denied certificate store security: Checking if certificate is in Deployment permanent certificate store network: Cache entry found

Humm... sorry, but no joy here. I have rebooted the computer, power cycled the plm and the ISY. I usually use IE7 but after the computer rebooted, I brought it up in FireFox 2.0 using the beta link. It seems to persist my settings but not without a "Request Failed" and no notifications. ??? -jd

Thanks for your help! I am now running 2.4.15 and I have cleared my cache so that looks good. However, now everytime I try to "save" the configuration I get a "Request Failed" and still no notification. The address does seem to persist. I started with 2.4.13 and, interestingly enough, did end up saving some of my addresses (or so it appeared). It just never sent a notification. I removed those prior to upgrading to 2.4.15 to start with a clean slate. Now, if I remove an existing address and save I get "Request Failed" but the address is gone. If I add a new address I get "Request Failed" but the address remains. Notification still not occuring. Not sure where to go from here? Thanks.

I am new to the ISY and have been trying to get to know the unit and what it will do. I have been successful for the most part and generally like the unit. It seems to be capable of doing most of what I need. I have been able to work through most of my problems except one. Getting notifications to work. I have added both an email address for gmail and the Sprint PCS phone number for my "Q". I wrote a simple program to respond to an event and send notification to all. I know it is executing because I can see it trigger and the associated scene turns on but no notification is recieved. How do these notifications work and what can I do? Also, Could you clarify the requirements for running the beta? I have been starting the console from http://www.universal-devices.com/beta/. Is this all that is required? Are there any firmware updates needed as well? Thanks.

Update: I have successfully logged into the device. I had to go to the console configuration and fix the IP address as opposed to what was provided through DHCP. Not sure why? If you have any ideas I would appreciated it. Thanks, -jd