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Regarding lifespan, I am trying two brands, Homeseer and Inovelli. Both seem to have good build quality to them and good reviews. I will take your suggestion to search forums here to seek out other people's experiences. For now to reduce the popcorn effect, I have programmed each Z-wave light switch with double-tap (Fast On/Off in ISY) to trigger ISY scene. It seems to work with less of the popcorn effect. Or leave the Z-Wave device out of ISY Scene/group and write more programs to trigger the local switch whenever other devices within the ISY scene is pressed. Then I can use a single-tap triggers the ISY scene to have less popcorn effort. Yet to try my theory with this one.

LOL. My wife does not want to look at small buttons to figure which one to push. So, KeypadLinc is not her favorite. Let alone with multi-tap for her. Mostly it's for me.

Larryllix, You had better luck. I do notice that most none wall switch devices do last longer than wall switches. I have everything you mentioned plus more. I am swapping out wall light switches with Z-Wave for life duration, LED, multi-tap scene, build quality. Their thermostat is a joke, temperature reading is delay, not real time. Miss the Venstar thermostat with Insteon protocol.

Thanks lilyoyo1 and simplextech for your comments and suggestions!!!! Insteon devices have treated me well over the years but Smarthome has not been updating its products nor coming with new products or add features to the existing ones. On average lifespan on the lighting devices is about 3-4 years max. I do want to keep their Keypad. Hoping Z-Wave with other vendors would last longer and the LED feature is very useful plus the multi-tap feature. As my Insteon light devices end of life, I planned to replace with Z-Wave devices. Will also keep ISY for my Insteon devices and eventually get a separate Z-Wave controller for Z-Wave devices as I get more devices. Is my logic flawed?

I have, of course, Insteon devices and have been using ISY for years. I will eventually change out all Insteon devices with Z-Wave devices. I guess the best option is to stay with ISY, which I love, until all of Insteon devices are gone. Agree? Or suggestions? Thanks. Is the Associations option built into each Z-wave device or in the hub? I know I have a lot to learn about Z-Wave.

Thanks for the reply. First time learning about Z-Wave Associations. Anyone knows when ISY will support Associations?

Did a little more testing. I removed the Dimmer from the ISY scene. Now completely rely on the programs to trigger. Tap 1 works as multi-tap. So, the conclusion is that Z-Wave alone has the popcorn effect.

I want to go back to the point of the popcorn effect. I installed a new Homeseer dimmer with Z-wave scene feature (multiple taps option) and added to ISY scene. It does have the popcorn effort relying on the ISY scene. So, I trigger the ISY scene with a program when the Dimmer is turned on locally or using Button 1 is triggered. Both cases, I get the effect. HOWEVER, when I have the program to trigger on/off with double tap (Fast On), all the lights in the ISY scene came on at the same time. So, I tried with 3 taps, instance and again with 4 taps. The lights come on/off faster and at the same time in most cases. Can someone explain why Dimmer On or 1 Tap have the effect but multi-taps do not? Not only faster but more reliable with all the lights would trigger the way it should. Using ISY scene alone with 4+ devices, 1 or 2 devices might not triggered correctly. Thanks.

I recently purchased the Inovelli scene capable dimmer switch (NZW31) but it seems like that even with scene built-in to the switch, it's still not a CONTROLLER. The below programs ae still required if I hit the buttons on the physical switch to trigger the ISY Scene. ISY would allow to toggle between RESPONDER or CONTROLLER when adding it to a scene but the final result is it can only be a RESPONDOR. If 'Z-wave - Dimmer Switch' Status is 0% Then Set 'Z-wave - Dimmer Switch' Off Else - No Actions If 'Z-wave - Dimmer Switch' Status > 0% Then Set 'Z-wave - Dimmer Switch' On Else - No Actions A somewhat related question...is ISY compatible with Z-Wave scene enabled switches? How can ISY do Tap 2x or Tap 3x to control a scene? Thanks.

Thanks all. I have to re-think my programs.

That's my point the Calc_temperature might not be complete but the Variable has been executed; therefore, wrong number has been assigned. If I create a third program to have 2 Run Program statements, both programs will run concurrently. I would still get a wrong number assigned to Variable.

Need some help with ISY programming language. I have been using ISY for a few years and computer programmer by trade. Some top-down design programming languages execute a statement then the next. If a function or a sub-program is called, normally it runs the next statement after the function or sub-program is done. However, I notice the RUN PROGRAM in ISY language executes as soon as the calling program is started. It doesn't execute one statement after another. I know I can put a WAIT statement to wait for the called program to complete. For example, I want to assign a variable after a RUN PROGRAM statement. The program calculates some values but the variable has assigned a wrong number because the program right before the assignment statement is still running. I even put Wait statement in the called program doesn't help. Is ISY programming language working as designed? I assume if I have multiple RUN PROGRAM statements within a program, all of them would run concurrently? If Time is 12:00AM Then Run Program 'Calc Temperture' (Then Path) $Variable = $Cur_Temp Else - No Actions The $Variable would get $Cur_Temp from last night or last run of the program. Is WAIT statement the only way to control the run sequence? Thanks. Fireware v.5.0.12 and UI also is v.5.0.12.

Thanks. I believe you are right. It was going to be that or a bug in ISY. This is the first Z-Wave device but I have been using ISY for years and I now know to purchase more Z-wave devices with the Scene feature. This company has switches with scene but out of stock for a long time. I guess ISY does not detect Z-Wave correctly since it allows me to toggle as a Controller. It wouldn't allow me to do that if an Insteon device (an older device) is not capable of being a Controller. I can only find scene-capable Z-Wave devices are by Inovelli and Homeseer. Any others? Thanks again!!

This program triggers the scene: If ‘Z-Wave’ Status is On Then Set ‘Family Room Scene’ On However, this program doesn’t trigger (doesn't run THEN) the scene: If ‘Z-Wave’ is switched On Then Set ‘Family Room Scene’ On Somehow ISY sees Status but can’t see Control at the switch. UDI is telling that's normal for Z-wave switches.

I would think it does support instant status because ISY reflects the status of on and off immediately. Yes, when I added to the scene, I made sure it's a Controller. This is the Z-Wave device: https://inovelli.com/shop/smart-light-switches/zwave-on-off-repeater-nzw30/ Can't determine by the description whether it's instant status.