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As we have discussed for literally days at a time. Both Polisy and Eisy are X86-64 PCs, just like you have sitting on your desk. They are simply smaller format. Polisy OEM was pcengines(https://pcengines.ch) all of the accessories like wifi and Bluetooth cards are available at that site, even wall mounts. Eisy OEM is MELE(https://www.mele.cn/). The OS for both is FreeBSD. In terms of why you were not able to use the backup directly is most likely because your windows based computer probably didn't have the needed options to mount an ext3/4 filesystems. For the best experience when working with systems like Polisy it is best to be working from a Linux or BSD system(windows sucks anyway). In terms of backup you can easily transfer any files with sftp and for full backups simply use dd to make an image. If in the future you want to use either as something other than a home automation controller, you can reflash the bios (I don't know if Eisy is a custom bios) and install OS and software you want.

I have several of these in use and haven't seen that behavior in any of them. How you using them? I have used them in scenes, but ultimately decided to create programs that then trigger a scene.

I would have to say after reading this thread I think I can safely say, anyone who thinks ISY is no longer relevant, doesn't understand home automation. The problem is that many people miss use and misunderstand the terms Smart Home and Home Automation with something more akin to a "home remote". ISY isn't really what you want if you just want to be able to use your phone or voice to turn lights on and off. ISY is what you want when you expect the home to do things without intervention. When you want to be able to integrate information and control from a variety of sources to create a full automated home. I would argue that the ISY framework is more relevant now, than ever before. As we see more and more "smart" devices. We are on the cusp of Matter, however Matter is simply a communications protocol. It will not alone allow for one to create true home automation. You will still need some sort of hub to create the programs and scenes. ISY is certainly the most mature and stable platform from which to work from. From the hardware perspective both Polisy and Eisy are X86 PCs running BSD. If you wrap your head around that simple fact, you will understand that means you can install any software within the repositories and that technically you can configure PKG to download and install from any freeBSD repository. Now I am going to be incredibly blunt here. If you want a file server, build one, if you want PiHole, install it on a Pi. If you want a Jellyfin/Emby/Plex media server build one, if you want web server again build one. PC components have drop to the lowest cost in 36 months, build away. Technically yes Polisy and Eisy are capable of doing all of this. However, I am sure UDI didn't factor running all of this on top of ISY and Polyglot when choosing the hardware. On top of that it is stupid to put all of those things on one system. One bad package or a bad power supply and all of your stuff goes down. Always, always minimize single points of failure. If anything you want to trend the other way and separate out services to dedicate hardware or build out a private cloud to run these types of services.

The real and true reason why we care about matter, because everyone else does. If matter was just some obscure concept from some small home automation company, we wouldn't be taking about it. However, Google, Apple and so on are on board and that means everyone is watching it and talking. Be it the next coming or a face plant, we have to care because a huge segment does, and likely will go wherever matter goes. How will it work in reality? No one knows. Will it succeed? No one knows. In the tech world no one ever knows until it is rolled out, there are just too many factors that can't be accounted for in lab testing.

No the zwave/matter board internal is only for polisy. Eisy appears to be built on mele Quite line(https://www.mele.cn/) This line doesn't have the same internal interface. As Michel said "MatterZ board will be USB and plugs into one of the USB ports."

You have 10 of them being powered separately? Are these attached to mini split systems, zone controllers or central?

I am just glad I have enough backup plms to last me for several decades. We shall see where everything goes. I find myself actually optimistic about matter. Insteon seems to be focusing on hub for now (which makes business sense). Insteon may enter the public domain in the future so hub makes sense for Insteon. Plenty of manufacturers are still committed to z-wave, and matter seems to finally be on track. UDI has eisy which appears to be built on the excellent work at Mele(they built excellent small form systems). I find myself feeling optimistic about the direction and diversity of the industry for the first time in a long time.

The big questions are. Does insteon intend to manufacture any plm? And do they intend to continue allow local api access on the hub? If they maintain local api do we begin to bulid a node to control insteon via the hub?

Looks wonderful. Love the Minimalist look.

I would expect a lot of the queue was issues that occurred during the bankrupt period and probably have been solved via other means, but ended up in the system one way or another. These Troubleshooting and ticket systems can become overwhelmed very easily, with each ticket taking hours to close because you need to make contact and then figure out if any real issue exists. Often times it is simple user error and takes time to figure out that. If I were them I would post a blog post and e-mail all addresses with open tickets to resubmit any issues after a purge. Any users that truly need help will resubmit, the rest will just fall off and not be an issue. I think that is likely what they will do.

I think the issue here is that most modern devices will send reminders on their own. I don't use these options myself but my washer and dryer both can send alerts, my range can as well. My fridge can send alerts about temp and door being open. Then add that to alexa. The thing is most people want simplified solutions. Energy Management as a way of controlling or as a trigger is far more complex. One of the biggest issues for us geeks is looking at things from the non-geek pov. I mean I know I can automate a desk fan, but should I? If I developed it as a product, would there be a market. Simplicity over everything else. If samsung makes a washer that can text me when the load is done, why use Energy monitoring to do the exact same thing. I can employ temp sensors and IR commands to control my portable AC or I could use the energy information reported by the smart plug or I could just use the Thermostat on the thing. That's the issue, simplicity. Use of energy management or measuring just isn't going to have a big enough market to make it profitable. Like it or not, we are headed to a future where each device is "smart" and can give data about a number of aspects. This is exactly why I have faith that UDI is heading in the right direction, they will enable many of these devices to work together.

Look at you. You got called out by two people on "facts" and now you are acting like a petulant child. Several people are basically telling you the same thing. Now including the original coder of the energy module for Polisy. This whole discussion isn't about the technology, it is now about the way you are acting. The thing is you seem to relish in it. However, ad hominem attacks are absolutely a way of covering for lack of intellectual discorse. You also seem to need to read about the Dunning Kruger effect. You are lashing out at people with far more knowledge and experience than you, claiming you know more. The behavior that you have displayed today would be enough to get you banned in most Social Media. I could eviscerate your arguments with just the white papers on each protocol and why the protocol doesn't work the way you want it to. But you seem less interested in truth than with ad hominem attacks. So it becomes obvious this attack today isn't about the technology and is 100 percent about something else. You mentioned respect, you show very little and expect a large amount. That isn't how that works. Your temper tantrum is eroding the respect people have for you, not just me but many. I hope that you get Whatever is truly bugging you figured out. I would hate to see a once well respected member of this community waste that respect over such a petty thing as this. All the best.

You know, Either you are so ego driven that you are unable to understand that you can be wrong. Or something else is bugging you today. You haven't presented a single fact at all. You posted a picture of a GUI, all of the radio and check boxes are options that are able to be programmed in Polisy. And may I remind you, you're not my boss, if you want a private conversation, do it via a PM or E-mail. You choose to post in public.

That's exactly my point. And we already have much of that built into both home automation(timers, and energy monitoring on the device) as well as utility side load control. In terms of central home energy, none of the existing protocols are built around the idea of load control, simply monitoring, yes, but full control, no. And there certainly isn't much of a market for it either, companies trying to deal with load control at that level have come and gone.

I have got to say. As I have said before, I have developed many products over the years and I can't get my head around what you are talking about. Polisy offers the ability to send a single conditional e-mail. I have two of them doing this all the time. Although I have to say you are screaming about e-mail and it being 2022 is about as silly as all hell. Most people want some form of notification on their phone. While I and most geeks prefer e-mail, nearly all other users expect, app based notifications. As far as energy management, Home Automation and energy management are two very different things from a technical perspective with little overlap. While I myself do monitor some loads on my Network, I wouldn't expect to be able to monitor and control loads from a "macro" level monitor. I looked at Brule Tech products and I don't see any overlap into Home Automation at all. They have a very expensive monitor, with a primary customer base in solar and wind. There's plenty of ways to monitor energy with Polisy. You have plenty of options for programming and notifications via Polisy. I would assume those things would be present in any new device UDI would turn out. It seems to me that you are throwing a tantrum over things not being as simple as a "box". As I have contended prior, that isn't what UDI does, nor should it. The idea is openness. You can't do that if everything is a simple gui element. There is a reason why most true system administrators prefer cli. If you want true energy management you aren't going to find it in any Home Automation standards, not for serious energy management anyway. Polisy and UDI would be the only place I would look for the abilities to integrate the two in a meaningful way. I hope this make sense to you as I am still trying to wrap my head around the ego centered emotionally driven argument.