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I have 7+ years of experience with multiple valve automation types. I started with a Z-Wave DomeHA Water Main shutoff. Fortunately, I never had experience with "all on" issue. However, as a strap over the pipe and clamp onto the actuator type valve closer there was always a wee bit of play in the valve closing process. Sometimes when I attempted to close it would remain what appeared to be a slight bit open. The regular issue I encountered is unrequested shutoffs. No water sensor was tripped no request sent. Just decided to close. I admit that "failure" is much less concerning than unexpected opening of the valve. Either way it was enough to erode confidence in a Z-Wave device. Consequently, I shifted to a hard wired (24VAC hard wired relay), price was 6-10x the price of the cheap valve actuator and I had to pay another couple hundred to have it plumbed into the line. But you know the saying, you get what you pay for. The Elk replacement was one of the best moves I've made in my system. It's completely bullet proof. I've ever had a failed close, I've never had an unrequested open. It's truly amazing. If you can't afford a hard-wired valve controller you might wanna make sure you have a low insurance deductable, cause all it will take is one flood claim to make you wish you'd put in something that will really work, and work FAST (current versions close in less than 1 second).

Love the responses posted already. If it wasn't all to clear I have little interest in taking dependency on cloud service provider (one of the most awesome capabilities of EISY is it's ability to "run local"). I had held out some hope that there might be a common api interface that a sufficiently large community of device builders might be building with. Sounds like the two giants in the room Goog&Amzn are getting device builders to follow their whims leaving the rest of the community to build plugins against the devices as they ship. I won't count my "hope" hopeless yet. I will try to find and buy a couple devices that already have plugins published to see how good/cumbersome the experience is and go from there. I spent over a decade at a VERY large software company so I understand the challenge it is to continue to flourish when all the rest of a community has to align with the "recurring revenue" (subscriptioin) solutions. I laud UD and this community and look forward to participating and hopefully contributing to the community over time. Thanks All.... Look forward to a couple followup posts to this thread following my attempt with https://polyglot.universal-devices.com

I have decades of experience with Z-Wave with HAI (Leviton). I'm transitioning to Z-Wave with EISY. I'm VERY impressed with what EISY brings to the table. What I'm trying to understand is if I use EISY to control the newer Wifi (google and alexa capable) devices that are exploding on the market. I have zero interest in running google home or using alexa. What I would like to do however is leverage: the much cheaper/plentiful smart devices. Wifi smart devices are ~75% less than Z-Wave). The rate of new devices hitting the market seem to be blowing away the number of z-wave decvices. my existing reliable Wifi network over a much slower and less reliable z-wave topology. So, my question are: 1. Can I use EISY to manage devices like those made by GHome https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/0824DEE2-9A3E-4FF2-B0C6-91D84D5C20FC (I'm not advocating for GHome, it's just the easiest example I found on Amazon)? 2. If it's possible, are there best practices anyone can recommend?

OK Mea culpa. And yes I've just demonstrated the extent of my ignorance with Java. I had installed the Java SDK presuming the "runtime" would come with it like most other dev kits I've used over the last couple decades. Problem it is DID NOT. So just downloaded the win version of Java from https://www.java.com/en/ and then manually associated jnlp with the Javaws.exe program found in the x86 Java program files. and VOILA... all is well.

I have a bran new machine with a new windows 10 64 bit Enterprise installaton . I've installed Java from the oracle site, I see "Java(TM) SE Development Kit 17.0.1(64-bit" in the Programs and Features. So it's CLEARLY installed. When I browse http://isy/admin or https://www.universal-devices.com/99i/, I see the prompt "Please Keep This Windows Open!, Java 2+ Required." but NOTHING happens. No desktop icon, nothing. I was able to download the "start.jnlp", and have manually attempted to launch it by associating jnlp filed with javaw.exe and even attempting running the following command from an admin console window. C:\Program Files\Java\jdk-17.0.1\bin>javaw start.jnlp All that command gets is a command prompt return, and no error code. I have checked for a javaws.exe in the latest version of Java for windows 64 bit but there's no JavaWS.exe only Java.exe and JavaW.exe as shown by the details below. C:\Program Files\Java\jdk-17.0.1>dir *.exe /s /o n Volume in drive C is Local Disk Volume Serial Number is C644-26BE Directory of C:\Program Files\Java\jdk-17.0.1\bin 01/14/2022 07:36 PM 41,800 jabswitch.exe 01/14/2022 07:36 PM 102,728 jaccessinspector.exe 01/14/2022 07:36 PM 67,400 jaccesswalker.exe 01/14/2022 07:36 PM 20,296 jar.exe 01/14/2022 07:36 PM 20,296 jarsigner.exe 01/14/2022 07:36 PM 51,016 java.exe 01/14/2022 07:36 PM 20,296 javac.exe 01/14/2022 07:36 PM 20,296 javadoc.exe 01/14/2022 07:36 PM 20,296 javap.exe 01/14/2022 07:36 PM 51,016 javaw.exe 01/14/2022 07:36 PM 20,296 jcmd.exe 01/14/2022 07:36 PM 20,296 jconsole.exe 01/14/2022 07:36 PM 20,296 jdb.exe ... So I know I'm not a java guy but I'm pretty technically competant. I can only assume I'm missing something to getting the Admin app installed. Any suggestions/help would be GREATLY appreciated TIA.