kpurintun

So now I am close to 4 hours. Still can't access the Admin Console. I SSH'd to the Polisy just to see if it would 'disconnect' at some sort of reboot. I guess if' its not good by morning. I should open a ticket?

Hey Guys, Had a lamp go bad. Wiring inside melted until there was a short. Ended up having to replace my Instron switch with a spare. All my 'replace' features worked. Anyways.. saw the 'automatically upgrade to 5.5.9' and I clicked it. it started to do the update. UD mobile sent me a notification that it went offline. Here I am almost an hour later having no idea how to see what is going on. I am fairly new to UD products even though I have had this a while. (Purchased mid 2022).. It's been doing what it was supposed to and working flawlessly with Home Assistant. So, I had no reason to do anything like updates. Anyways, how long is this supposed to take? Is there any way to see what the heck is going on. that something is happening in a 'forward direction'? I have tried to search the forum for a very comforting set of instructions that says "expect an hour of down time" or "you can SSH and type this command to see what the hell is going on"... turns out I have to sit next to it for a long time and wait for some beeps. I have been upstairs and away from it for basically this whole time. so, it may have beeped. also came across the words at the top of the page for previous releases that says, 'please do not upgrade to these versions' and that is where 5.5.9 is. ug. I didn't realize I could upgrade directly to 5.6.2. Have I screwed the pooch? Kyle

Turned out the mutually exclusive stuff was a cake walk.. everything works well.

well.. because it was simple lamps at the end of kpl buttons with simple dimmer changes, I just went with the mutually exclusive buttons and it works well.. i will probably never use these from an app or do anything like that for these, there is no complicated programming. resetting them would be easy. thanks for your help.

Well.. I just spent two and a half hours reconfiguring my entire insteon setup and its just about perfect. its never been perfect. its always had some wackiness, and it would take several weekends to get 'passable'. I'll leave you alone about the UI. It worked a treat to get this all working quickly and easily. I bet it would have been 20 minutes had the insteon protocol been faster. Thanks for putting the time to get Insteon so perfect. I don't think I'll ever like java applets, but this one worked quite well, was very stable, and did its job.

So i did a schedule with the devices.. but i should have did it with the scenes.. because then the kpl’s would be in sync right?

So its best to do this with scenes rather than the mutually exclusive functionality? if you set all to ‘non-toggle on’ how do you turn it off? My first use case is our bedroom lamps.. each is a lamplinc turned on with a KPL button.. then there are two preset KPL buttons that set the two lamps to come full on or come on dimmed. I want to be able to turn on lamps individually and off individually.. and then also do the two presets.. but when the lamps are on the presets.. turn off the individual kpl buttons and set dim or bright kpl buttons. the other is my son’s lamp. But just bright and dim.

I have a couple of button groups that i want to do.. set up some mutually exclusive stuff.. but the page where you set it up is covered in warnings.. and an alternate way..but I can’t really find any detail about doing it the better way or what the warnings really mean or if it really matters. do these matter?

Yeah... its just not pretty.. people like my wife care about usability over function. Well '+1' for fresh new web based interface for ISY. I would totally pay for (within reason) an upgraded software package that was a fresh and pretty locally hosted website for use and configurations.

It was more of a 'your mileage may vary' comment... there are better SD cards than others, my point was that dollar for dollar, the rPi actually represents a worse value than a readily available refurb OptiPlex with all things considered. A class 40 NVMe SSD will outperform and outlast any MicroSD and also seem to have very competitive $$/GB, especially when considering its durability. I also use the Google drive backup addon and like it. I use UnRAID on the BareMetal of my OptiPlex with a parity drive that looks for inconsistencies weekly. I can recover here or use the backup. I was looking at the Yellow.. let us know how it works when you get it.

Hey Guys, Moving my insteon from 'directly connected to HA', to a shiny new Polisy connected to HA. This all used to be connected to Indigo that did most of the fancy Indigo configs.. (keypad dimming schedules, mutually exclusive keypad buttons, dimming ramp rates and default dim levels, linking, etc..) This has since gotten goofed up in small ways, then moving to HA added extra dumb and removed some of the fanciness. I am super excited about this move and have been eyeballing ISY for a very long time. Anyways. I am trying to plan this out. I don't want to have weeks of wackiness due to me figuring out the ISY insteon stuff. Not sure I want to put my family through this. Its currently wacky but works 80% good. I want 100% good. The most important question... If I have a multiway switch group with 3 keypads as controllers for a lamplinc. Will I just make a single scene with the Lamp as the responder and the keypad buttons as the controller For example, the DS Lamp (far left) in the attachment. This is connected to 3 keypads. If I have a single scene, Will all the buttons and the lamp stay in sync with each other if I turn on the lamp or hit any button in the scene? ..or will I need to create all the scenes to cover each controller>responder relationship.. Lamp to keypads, keypads to lamp and other keypads.. 4 scenes in total? Then finally, what is the best way to get those to stay in sync if I change them from HA? Are there any other things I should consider? Thanks

a bit late to the convo.. But if you look at the cost of a high-end rpi, the SSD, a case, a power supply, a good SD card, and a fan... you are basically within a couple of dollars of a Dell Optiplex Micro which will have way more power, ~6 USB ports, a nicer case, ability to upgrade to 32 or even 64 gb of ram, support for two hard drives (SATA and NVME), and all kinds of good features. Considering the writiness of HA and all the fun features it has, it will absolutely destroy a microSD card in short time. but definitely encourage you to look at these micro PC formfactors. some can be just $210. and go up to $1500. just plan what you want to do.. if you want to do VMs. spend more for threads (6 to 8 threads) and ram. does not seem to be a big reason to get an i7 when the i5's do just fine. (16-32). otherwise, just HA.. a 4 thread i5 and 8gb of ram will be super affordable and arguably about the same $$ as a pi.

I have been struggling hard to hit the buy button for at least 10 years on this. I finally got the new Polisy and I am immediately reminded why I dragged my feet. There are now so many powerful web tools and lots of cross platform technologies. Piles of delicious web UI features. Using a 12 year old java applet is not amazing in 2022. I plan to use Home Assistant as my main interface for 'using it' and logic. really just needed a really good interface for programming Insteon. so I guess I really don't need this UI. The current HA integration does not have all the good features. I just feel that a good user experience and a nice UI will keep this product alive and updated. This will also attract more customers and more developers. I think its a win-win-win-win for everyone.