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You sir... are fantastic! Brian

Is there a guide somewhere showing what all the icons mean? I ask because right now my mini remote has changed to a little grey icon and I think it means there is an error but I can't confirm

Help! My thread has been hijacked! Just kidding of course. I completely understand where kingwr is coming from but now that I understand how it works... I just work around it (ie. 3 programs) It is nice that my motion detector status changing to ON will immediately halt an "OFF" program I've created. This is not the case with traditional programming unless you are actively looping to look for a variable/status change. It keeps me from having to write loop code to check for status while the 4min wait is happening. Back to my original topic.... Everything appears to be working and I must admit... I didn't understand how the 3rd program would be effective until you wrote it out. Makes sense that if I want to start turning a light off, I should exit the time restricted folder to wait... so if the time restriction passes, the wait program will continue on. But here is an internal programming question about the ISY... In its current form, the WAIT is occurring in the parent program. If the motion sensor changes to ON, it exits the program, and as such, terminates the WAIT and the subsequent "Lights OFF" that would have followed. If I move the WAIT program outside the parent program as you suggest, I'm guessing the parent program will become FALSE and exit. Does it tell the child program to stop as well? Because in your scenario the child program doesn't have an IF condition and as such, will never become false. IT appears the child program would finish its 4:30 wait and turn the lights OFF. Obviously this isn't the case if the parent/child program are somehow connected in the ISY. (a relationship) Is this the case? Thoughts? Brian

I think I have it! Here is my code: If Status 'Kitchen Sink Light' is Off And Control 'Kitchen Motion Sensor' is switched On Then Set Scene 'Kitchen Sink NightTime' On If Status 'Kitchen sink light' > Off And Status 'Kitchen Motion Sensor' is Off Then Wait 4 minutes and 30 seconds set scene 'Kitchen Sink NightTime' Off It appears this is working... the one side effect will be the light possibly not turning off the program is running when it passes sunrise. (Since I have a sunset-sunrise restriction on the program folder) I don't think this is a big problem since we will be up and awake and the light will be just like any other light in the house at that point.

Dan, I'm assuming you didnt mean to put "status pantry motion sensor" twice in the IF statement. Is that correct? I'm working on my motion sensor tonight and I wanted to make sure. Brian

Sorry I haven't given an update yet. I've been busy with a few other things and the insteon equipment is sitting idol on my desk. I will see if I can get it going this evening.

Thanks Dan & Rand, Your method sounds pretty solid. I too was confused by the seamingly endless ways to control the motion/light relationship. Adding a motion sensor to a scene seemed to complicate the matter but I couldn't get the MS to send ON/OF signals properly when it wasnt linked to a scene. Perhaps I was doing something incorrectly.. I will re-test this evening. Brian

Hello all, I have a question regarding Insteon Motion detectors and a kitchen light. I've read the following thread but there are mountains of suggestions and I'm wondering which method is the most widely accepted/supported. http://forum.universal-devices.com/view ... sc&start=0 Basically, I have a kitchen light hooked up to a togglelinc. This light switch should function normally 24 hours a day. (on/off) But between the sunset and sunrise, I want the motion detector in the kitchen to control the kitchen light (togglelinc). When I add the motion sensor to the kitchen light scene, it turns the light on/off all day long with motion. I tried creating a few programs to manage the on/off during the day but it resulted in the light coming ON from motion, then quickly being turned back OFF from the program. I've read about the use of folders with time constraints, the use of "day only" jumper setting, the use of programs that set the scene to 0% if its during the day. etc. What is the most accepted way to accomplish this task? Thanks in advance! Brian