nickcat

That's pretty much exactly what I wound up with... the only thing I added, but I'm not sure it's working properly (haven't had rain when I'm around to test it though) is: AND Module 'Climate' Rain Rate < 0.1

Thanks Orest. Could you export all the programs you use for this so I can look them over and try to adapt it to my setup? It looked like a fair bit of your stuff was missing from your examples in the other thread. I'm also going to have to learn how to set up the variables. I only upgraded to 3 about a week ago, so hadn't invested any time in it yet. As far as the 2.2 modules, they seem to be fine so far, but because I wasn't controlling them directly before I don't have a good direct comparison. And since they have only been up for about 24 hours any weirdness hasn't had a chance to rear it's ugly head.

I have a house with 2 individual AC/Gas Furnace setups for 2 separate sections of the house. One is single zone for a 1st floor mudroom and a second floor bonus room over the garage, the other is dual zone for the main living space with a 1st floor kitchen/dining room/living room/office and 2nd floor bedrooms. I have two Venstar 1800s on the dual zone setup, and a 1900 with a Venstar remote temp sensor which gets averaged with the thermostat temp, as the layout is split across the two floors with the thermostat on the second. When I originally got the Venstars I was using the built in 7 day programming to control, which was originally working great. But now I work from home, and since my daughter was born my wife is staying home with her. That change affected the major savings of trying to turn down the stats in "unused" portions of the house when nobody would be expected to occupy them. So what I would like to ultimately setup would be programmatic control of the stats and temps using motions sensors to judge occupancy, and maybe KPLs butons to manually override if needed. Problem is, I'm not really sure where to start. At any point during the day all three of us are likely to be in any part of the house. So when I'm working downstairs in my office, and my 8 month old us upstairs sleeping in her crib I want to make sure the temp is stable and comfortable for everyone. However I would like to trim back the cooling/heating when nobody is home or we're all downstairs, or upstairs as all the bedrooms are on the 2nd floor. I have humidity modules installed in all the stats, as well as the weatherbug module with fairly accurate data from about 1 mile away at a school. I am also one of the lucky ones who was emailed by Smarthome to swap out my stat devices, so they are all using Rev2.2, which is said to have eliminated the weird issues with babbling units. So I'm hoping controlling them should be stable now. So does anyone have some good occupancy triggered HVAC programs I can build from? I've been reluctant to start programming the stats with the ISY simply because I don't want to overlook something simple and accidentally short cycle my HVAC equipment causing major issues. Fortunately the house is very tight so holding temp in winter or summer isn't much of an issue, I would just really like to do my part to cut back on the power and gas usage and keep everyone more comfortable while doing so. Sorry for rambling on... just want to make sure I answered the major questions about the setup before asking for help. Thanks for listening, and thanks in advance for any help.

I wrote a program to control my Bug Lights around the house (I live in a VERY dense mosquito population area) but it doesn't seem to be working any longer, which is kind of irrelevant as I think my original logic sucked anyway. The Bug Zappers are plugged into 2456 Outdoor ApplianceLincs. All I'm looking to accomplish is to control the light with the given parameters: 1) On 1 our before sunset, and 1 hour after sunrise 2) During those hours, it will only be on if the outside temp is above 50F (I have the weatherbug module for temp) 3) I'm in Massachusetts and temp at night can start above 80 and drop below 50 through the night, so I would like the program to self monitor and if during the scheduled time temp goes below 50 to turn the unit off (or back on in the reverse scenario) 4) I would like to have the light turn off if it's raining, but also turn back on after it stops The rough program I had was checking every 10 minutes for temp during the scheduled runtime each night. At that 10 minute check it would temp and turn the light off or on by running the then/else in a control program, then wait another 10 to check the temp again and adjust as needed. It was just too dumb and simple and many times the light would never shut off or never turn on. So my logic was without question flawed. Any help, or point to the right HowTo/Example, would be greatly appreciated.

I used the examples provided here to correct the motion sensor issues in the garage: http://www.universal-devices.com/mwiki/ ... _Bathrooms Here are the programs I wound up with so far. Garage Light Motion On if control garage motion is switched on and status garage primary light is not on and status garage secondary light is not on then set scene garage overhead lighting on Garage Light Motion Timer if control garage motion is switched off and program garage light motion timer enabled is true then wait 5 minutes set scene garage overhead lighting off Garage Light Motion Timer Enable if none then set program garage light motion timer enable to run at startup else set program garage light motion timer enable to not run at startup Garage Light Motion Timer Enable/Disable if control remotelinc garage motion is switched on and control remotelinc garage motion is not switched off then run program garage light motion timer enable else path else run program garage light motion timer enable then path So in summary, this will turn the lights on when the motion sensor is triggered and shut them off 5 minutes after the last motion is detected. I can choose to override the motion sensor countdown to turn the lights off by using my remotelinc to set the variable to false. So it will still turn the lights on, but not turn them back off. I haven't tested this yet, but the logic sounds pretty valid, and it's pretty much verbatim what's in the wiki. I implemented the dust collector as suggested by oberkc. I have a folder that checks whether or not the garage lights are on, and then send the commands from my remotelinc to a program inside that folder. One question I have... what is the difference between status and control? I understand that not all devices have status (ie. remote and controlincs). So is control simply checking for the command being sent, not the current status of the unit? Do the motion sensors keep sending On commands each time motion is detected, or only once the current motion trigger has timed out?

1. Correct. 2. Correct. 3. Correct. I am using one of the new black outdoor capable 15A appliance units for the dust collector, seems fine in my initial testing. I was able to setup the conditional on the folder no problem, but when trying to setup the program to control the dust collector from the RemoteLinc, I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but I thought since the RemoteLinc is a non-status device I can't use it in a program. Under the Insteon choices, I can't see any of my ControLinc or RemoteLinc units. Am I looking in the wrong section? I'm going to work on the motion sensor setup some more, I think the reason it's chewing up my analytical brain is that in this scenario there are literally a million ways to skin this cat! I will get back with the programs I come up with once I get them fleshed out. Thanks for the help... I'll wait on a reply about writing a program with the RemoteLinc... in case I am doing something incorreclty. UPDATE: I just found the way to trigger on the RemoteLinc... so many menus so little knowledge about them!

I have a woodworking shop in the garage, that uses a 2420 motion sensor to turn the lights off and on, works fine most of the time unless I'm a bit too stationary while working (but that's a secondary issue at this point). What I would like to accomplish is setting up a conditional program that will only allow the dust collector (running through one of the new 2456S3E ApplianceLincs) to be turned on if the garage lights are on as well. This is more for safety reasons than anything else. I don't want the dust collector to be able to turn on unless the lights are on meaning there is someone working in the garage. I plan to use a RemoteLinc to turn the collector on and off. The secondary issue is a smaller one, but I see now proper control of that is going to have a direct impact on this program, so I might need to get that addressed as well. The motion sensor in the garage currently triggers two icon switches to turn on two banks of lights when motion is detected. After reading through many threads here I know that's NOT the best method to control the loads directly. Can someone post the actual programs they are using to control a similar situation. I would ultimately like to have a way to use the physical icon switch to act as an override so the light will remain on if I want it to stay on. From what I've read I know I'm asking for a lot... So any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm getting lost in the quagmire of the options for these programs to know the best way to get this done. The only problem I can see right now with the ISY is that there are SO many different ways to accomplish the same programming task, knowing which way is the most efficient and least load on the system seems to be something you'll only learn over time and lots of trial and error. Thanks in advance. -Nick