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Awesome, thanks much. My UI and Firmware are now in sync; there was a problem when I first upgraded, but all in sync now.

I have been having quite a few problems since upgrading to 5.3.0 with seeing programs. About half the time I run the console, only about 5 of my 25 or so programs show up in My Programs. I'll clear Java cache, re-download and re-run the start.jnlp, and then it's 50/50 whether I see the other programs. They all seem to be running, but they don't always appear in the console. I'm living in fear of actually losing them at some point, and would like to find a way to save them as source so that if I have to rebuild the whole set of programs at some point, I can do it. Yes, of course I back up the ISY on a regular basis, but this whole thing started with the 5.3.0 upgrade, and now my confidence is broken. I feel it's likely I'll have to recreate everything from scratch at some point. There doesn't seem to be a way to copy the text out of a Java app, so that's out. There's no "export program listing" function I can find. Other than doing 25 screen shots, does anyone know of a way to save the source of programs? One last question: Is there a place to find what the different icons for each program mean? There are three different icons on that (partial) listing, and no secret decoder ring that I can find. Edit: Found this link: But it is missing at least two of the icons on my listing.

Well, after a bunch of machinations, most of my programs are back and I was able to replace my one broken Insteon switch. Which was all I really wanted to do. I still have to fix some programs, unfortunately. And somehow my UI and ISY versions now match as well. But as for this "ISY Launcher" thing, when I try these steps: 1. Clear your Java Cache 2. Go to https://isy.universal-devices.com/start.jnlp 3. Click on the desired ISY row and, from the menu, choose the Admin Console or the Dashboard The 2nd step offers to download a file. It's been a long time since I've been able to launch a Java app from the browser, and I have no idea why.

Wow. So much for upward compatibility. Guess I have a job ahead of me. Are there, like, benefits to this upgrade I wonder?

Well, after the third time reloading the backup, I see my old programs! But they all still look like this: and the files that I say "Not Saved" have code like: with commented-out sections that used to be the actual actions. And they're un-savable. What is going on here I wonder!?

Here's how I run the thing: Hit http://my_ISY_IP/admin.jnlp Save the file, as my browser doesn't seem to know what to do with it. Run "javaws admin.jnlp". The Admin Console comes up, after 5-10 popups about "not communicating with...xxx" and other noise. I see all my scenes and devices (now), but programs are all gone. My UI is now reporting 5.3.0. I was able to once again restore the 5.3.0 backup I made, and run the Admin Console again after clearing the Java cache (apparently). I see several .PGM file names go by during the restoration, but no programs appear still.

And what's the "New Launcher"?

Okay, I went to the Java Control Panel in Windows and deleted all "Internet Temporary Files" with Settings... Delete Files, selected all. Ran it again, and I get exactly the same results -- different UI and ISY versions, rejects Restoring the recently-made backup.

How does one clear one's Java cache? Seems like only command-line works for me.

Upgraded again, this is what it shows: And it does the same thing when I try to Restore the file it saved before it all disappeared. FWIW, I can't seem to run the Admin Console from a browser; it keeps saying something about "Java 2+ Required" and doesn't go any further. I can launch the Admin Console from "javaws admin.jnlp" fine.

I upgraded my ISY-994i to 5.3.0 successfully (although "UI" still says 4.6.2 -- how does that get upgraded?), but now none of my programs run. Under Programs -> Summary, all the programs say "Not loaded" under Activity, and "Out of memory" under Status. I only have about a dozen programs, all very simple. Everything worked before I upgraded. I have rebooted the ISY-994i several times. I then did a "Backup ISY", which it happily did, saving a file that said 5.3.0 on it. Then I rebooted the ISY, and tried a Restore, and it comes back with "Upgrade Failed: Invalid system configuration file". And now it shows no programming at all. I'm rather stuck. I can post whatever might be useful, the Admin Console still appears to run. But it won't restore from the backup it just made and is otherwise completely devoid of any settings, devices, or programs.

Purchased and on the way!

Okay, thanks very much. I'll look around for the upgrade offer.

Ugh, well, thanks very much for the help. Got it working. Java is the most user-unfriendly environment I've ever encountered. I'm happy with what my 99i does, but I am looking at buying some new Insteon modules. What modules aren't supported by the 99i?

I just got a new Win8 computer, and I can't get the admin console to run (ISY99i, version 3.1.17). When I click on the admin console and accept / run Java (after a fresh Java install, verified and tested), I get an "error - click for details" message in the Java box. Clicking on it gives me a SecurityException box, with the text "Missing required Permissions manifest attribute in main jar: http://192.168.168.108/web/insteon.jar". Help! I'd like to upgrade, but can't do anything until the admin console runs!