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I will try alternate locations. No 'positive' changes to the electronics/ups's/etc (my son moved off to college so his computer, iracing rig, etc went with him), and it has always been in the same location. I also have a new PLM inbound (well, ordered) just to hedge that potential, and nice to have a spare. I truly appreciate everyone's thoughts and suggestions!

I believe this is what I had to do previously when I had to put in the new USB plm when I couldn't get the Serial PLM to communicate with the eisy. I will try this tonight, but if it couldn't communicate/reload the PLM, wouldn't most/all of my devices be in mode in Admin Console where they are wanting a write? Can't hurt to try it, that's for sure. I will do this later tonight.

Well, I wrote a long reply to this then it errored when I submitted *sigh* Thank you for the reply and information. I really should learn the protocol. Two other bits of data: 1) I tried adding a new/unused 2663-225 dual outlet. Whether I try to add via New Insteon Device or Start Linking, it returns with Cannot Determine Insteon Engine. I read this means it can't communicate with the PLM? Here is the event viewer info from that: ri 12/20/2024 15:58:20 : [4d 43 cd ] Added to list of devices to link to ISY Fri 12/20/2024 15:58:20 : [INST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 4D 43 CD 0F 0D 00 Fri 12/20/2024 15:58:20 : [INST-ACK ] 02 62 4D.43.CD 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Fri 12/20/2024 15:58:22 : [INST-SRX ] 02 50 4D.43.CD 70.8E.73 A7 0D FF (FF) Fri 12/20/2024 15:58:22 : [Std-Direct Nack] 4D.43.CD-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Fri 12/20/2024 15:58:22 : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 4D 43 CD 1F 09 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F6 Fri 12/20/2024 15:58:22 : [INST-ACK ] 02 62 4D.43.CD 1F 09 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F6 06 LNK-ON (01) Fri 12/20/2024 15:58:31 : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 4D 43 CD 1F 09 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F6 Fri 12/20/2024 15:58:31 : [INST-ACK ] 02 62 4D.43.CD 1F 09 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F6 06 LNK-ON (01) Fri 12/20/2024 15:58:40 : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 4D 43 CD 1F 09 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F6 Fri 12/20/2024 15:58:40 : [INST-ACK ] 02 62 4D.43.CD 1F 09 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F6 06 LNK-ON (01) Fri 12/20/2024 15:58:44 : [4D 43 CD 0 ] Failed to add device, reason 3 Fri 12/20/2024 15:58:44 : [All ] Writing 106 bytes to devices Fri 12/20/2024 15:58:44 : [INST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 1C 26 B6 0F 0D 00 Fri 12/20/2024 15:58:44 : [INST-ACK ] 02 62 1C.26.B6 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Fri 12/20/2024 15:58:53 : [INST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 1C 26 B6 0F 0D 00 Fri 12/20/2024 15:58:53 : [INST-ACK ] 02 62 1C.26.B6 0F 0D 00 06 (00) 2) I have an existing 2477D dualband switchlinc v.45 that was flashing red. I did a factory reset (hoping it'd clear the PLM setting as well as links), then Restore Device. That seemed to complete OK. But now it's constantly showing that it needs to be written (green arrow), and when I try it steps thru it and finishes without complaint. The red light no longer blinks, but otherwise things are the same functionally. Here is the event viewer from the write: Fri 12/20/2024 14:13:42 : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 4D 83 1C 1F 2F 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 Fri 12/20/2024 14:13:42 : [INST-ACK ] 02 62 4D.83.1C 1F 2F 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00) Fri 12/20/2024 14:13:51 : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 4D 83 1C 1F 2F 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 Fri 12/20/2024 14:13:51 : [INST-ACK ] 02 62 4D.83.1C 1F 2F 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00) Fri 12/20/2024 14:14:00 : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 4D 83 1C 1F 2F 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 Fri 12/20/2024 14:14:01 : [INST-ACK ] 02 62 4D.83.1C 1F 2F 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00) @DennisC it does worry me that the very-new PLM might be bad. Is there any way of resetting the devices (ala factory reset that I tried above) to clear the PLM for I2CS? I have in excess of 50 devices at this time...too scared to add them up and figure the total $$$ PLM info/status is "70.83.7e v9E/Connected." PLM Links table..tried it before with nothign showing after hitting Start, but I guess I wasn't patient. 94 entries. I'm not quite sure how to read the table (but did figure out it save the file as dec, but the gui shows hex) Once again, thank you for all the help and eyeballs so far! I really do appreciate it.

As near as I can tell, yes. The fact that I can control everything via the EISY tells me at least that much worked right. It's been a few months (life interfering with fun) but I don't recall any issues along those lines.

Longtime ISY user, I was finally forced to upgrade to the EISY. Dreaded it but it went smoothly except it just wouldn't communciate with my existing/old serial plm. One new USB PLM later, and all my programs and devices were working again. Except I noticed most of the switches would flash RED after manually changing them. I read two explanations: messed up links, or failure to communicate. Then I realized that whenever I manually switched, and had the admin console open, I'd get an alert about that device not responding. More playing in admin console reveals I cannot write changes or query. I've done a lot of other experimenting without success. Any ideas? Tests? Things to look for in event viewer? I have over 50 devices and who knows how many programs. Firmware: /UI IoX v5.8.4 Product: eisy(5226) openADR (21010) Networking Modules (21040) Portal Integration - UDI (21075) Z-Wave Module (21100) A10/X10 Modules (21060)

Told myself I wouldn't do it..I'd wait a couple months...I'm weak, ordered the eisy and zmatter Good timing, as my ISY is starting to get a bit overwhelmed lately...