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Actually controlling it manually, directly, does not look like it. I added mine to a scene and I turned the scene on and off and it turns just the button on and off (LED).

Yes it can and I use it. Create a scene where the button is a Responder and control that scene from a program.

Ok, these are the 3 programs: All in non-conditional folders. Like I stated, these worked 2 nights in a row. Desk Spots Turns Off Night If Control 'KeypadLinc A (Deck Spots)' is switched Off And From 10:00:00PM To Sunrise (next day) Then Wait 1 hour Set 'Malibu Lights' On Wait 4 minutes Set 'Malibu Lights' Off Wait 1 minute Set Scene 'Deck Spots Button' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Deck Spots Turns On Night: If Control 'KeypadLinc A (Deck Spots)' is switched On And From 10:00:00PM To Sunrise (next day) Then Stop program 'Deck Spots Turns Off Night' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Deck Spots Status: If Time is 10:01:00PM And Status 'Deck Spots' is not On Then Run Program 'Deck Spots Turns Off Night' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Well, yesterday I moved the programs out of the conditional folder and made the programs themselves time conditional. Last night and tonight they have functioned properly. I wonder if my unit has some weird problem? The end result is that the status program never went true at 10:01 PM while in the conditional folder. The folder condition was from 10:00 PM to Sunrise (next Day) That is the only thing I can say is different between my programs and IndyMike's test programs. Let me know if you stumble across the same thing. Thank you for your help.

Interesting. I turned on the Deck Spots via the KeypadLinc (after 10:00 PM) and now 'Deck Spots Turns On Night' program is showing 'Running Then', although there is no delay in the Then statement. It does show a last completed time at the same time it was started. Maybe it is a clue?

Hello, I am back. I tried again and it failed this evening. The 'Deck Spots Status' program now shows having run and last completed at 10:02 (because of the 1 minute delay) and shows false . The 'Deck spots turns off at night' shows blank on the last run time and complete time (had to reset ISY last night). Should I re-write the programs to not use a folder, but use a time frame? Indy Mike, Are you making changes to your unit that is testing my program? It seems any change to any programming triggers it to run properly, for the day. Maybe set this unit aside and let it run on its own? I assume you are running other tests on it. I dunno.

Tonight the program is working. I am out of town for a week so this is the last test until I get back. Thanks again!

Indy Mike, Thank you for your continued help. I have put in the minute timer as you requested and made it "Not On". I will let you know. Michael

Ok, so it worked last night and is not working tonight. I have verified the following: The Deck Spots module shows Off in ISY. (I shut it off via KeypadLinc at around 7PM) The Folder is showing True right now (After 10) The last run for the Deck Spots Status is 10:01PM 3/13/2008 (Tonight) and Status shows False (expected). The last run for Deck Spots Turns Off Night is at 10:01 PM 3/12/2008 (Last night). (BUT SHOWS TRUE RIGHT NOW!) Did that Sunrise(Next Day) bug ever get worked out? I came across a post about someone using the (Same Day) and it worked, but (Next Day) did not. I think it is a bug...

Tonight the program ran properly. We will see tomorrow night...

Ok, I have deleted the day folder altogether. I stated in the first post that it works fine when tested "On The Bench" so to speak. I tested the program six ways from Sunday on the bench and had positive results. I verified that I did not switch the folder times. In fact the program runs fine if I switch off the scene after 10:00 PM. The folder shows true after 10:00 PM. I turn off the deck spots at the keypadlinc. The ISY will show the status as Off for the module. No times have I looked and that particular status disagreed with the actual module state. I even had a query program running right before the Deck Spots status and it did not help. I have tried both Not On and Off. So at this point, the only thing new for tonight is the non-overlapping folders, and making sure the status is Off (not "Not ON"). I have deleted the day folder. Is there anything else you can think of? I urge you to try the program as written and let it go for the night and see if it did indeed work the next morning. If it works, then make no changes and try again tomorrow night. I will let you know if deleting the folder helped.

Are you saying that when the folder opens up, the Deck Spots Turns Off Night will automatically run? I was hoping the status request would trigger the hour timer. The reason for this setup is if I turn off the deck spots to go sit in the spa, I want to not worry about having to turn them back on if I forget. If I am in the spa too long. the malibu lights flash to warn me the spots are looming. If I turn the deck spots off in the evening for a party, I just don't want them coming on until 11:00PM (Or if I hit the A button first). But If I go in the spa say at 10:50, I do not want them coming on in 10 minutes. The Folder parameters are: Folder Conditions for 'Deck Spots Night' Add conditions to limit when programs in this folder are allowed to run. If From 10:00:00PM To Sunrise (next day) Then Allow the programs in this folder to run. The other folder I have, which is not really needed: Folder Conditions for 'Deck Spots Day' Add conditions to limit when programs in this folder are allowed to run If From Sunrise To 10:00:00PM (same day) Then Allow the programs in this folder to run. The Programs in the Day folder are If Turns Off/On Then do Nothing.

I posted this before, but I have had no resolution. I am at a loss. These 3 programs are in a folder that enables at 10:00 PM. For the first program, I have tried Deck Spots is Off along with Not On. 10:01 Deck Spots Status If Time is 10:01:00PM And Status 'Deck Spots' is not On Then Run Program 'Deck Spots Turns Off Night' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Deck Spots Turns Off Night: If Control 'KeypadLinc A (Deck Spots)' is switched Off Then Wait 1 hour Set 'Malibu Lights' On Wait 4 minutes Set 'Malibu Lights' Off Wait 1 minute Set Scene 'Deck Spots Button' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Deck Spots Turns On Night: If Control 'KeypadLinc A (Deck Spots)' is switched On Then Stop program 'Deck Spots Turns Off Night' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') When I test this setup, say set the 'If' time to two minutes away and then have the Deck Spots Off, it works fine. If I even test the whole setup, folder enables 2 minutes from now and 'If' time 3 minutes from now, it works too. When I put the program in actual play (the times noted in the code) it does not work. Tonight I turned off the deck spots at 7:00 PM and after 10:01, the Deck Spots Turns Off Night was not "Running Then". Am I doing something wrong?

Thank you all for your help. I am pretty certain now that it is the lamp itself. It is a dimmable halogen power supply. I did the switch switch and eliminated the switch being the issue. I then put a regular incandescent load on it and it works fine.

Michel, I did what you asked, no change. The ISY is not seeing the switch turn on. It still shows Off. That is why the trigger is not working. I am testing a different switch in a different location, if that proves good then I will swap the switches. It may be a communication issue. Thanks again, Michael

Thanks IndyMike, It is not a typo, I had to set it for 43% because ISY would not set it back to 40% for some reason. In my case it does not work if the switch has been off for a few minutes. It works if I stand there and turn it on and off, but if I leave it off and take a break, then come back, it does not work. As for the second part, I upgraded to 2.6.2 on Feb 29. The folder was true. at the time. I also added the line if the module is not on. maybe a little redundancy might help...

While we are looking at programs, this one did not work last night... The Deck Spots were off at 10:00, which is when the folder is enabled. Nothing happened at 10:01. Let me know what I am doing wrong. Deck Spots Status: (Decks Spots is an Icon A/L) If Time is 10:01:00PM And Status 'Deck Spots' is Off Then Run Program 'Deck Spots Turns Off Night' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Deck Spots Turns Off Night: If Control 'KeypadLinc A (Deck Spots)' is switched Off Then Wait 1 hour Set 'Malibu Lights' On Wait 4 minutes Set 'Malibu Lights' Off Wait 1 minute Set Scene 'Deck Spots Button' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Decks Spots Turns On Night: If Control 'KeypadLinc A (Deck Spots)' is switched On Then Stop program 'Deck Spots Turns Off Night' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

If Status 'Keria's Bedroom' is 43% And From 7:00:00AM To 9:00:00PM (same day) Then Set 'Keria's Bedroom' Fast On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

I have a Swichlinc that is set for 40% on and fast ramp for local. I have a program that if it goes to 40% between certain hours, then go to fast on. If the switch is off and I press it on, ISY does not see that, sometimes. If It is at 100% and I press on again, it goes to 40%, then right back to 100% every time (like it should) ISY always sees it go off. I replaced the dimmer today with a new one and it has the same results. It is the only unit that has been lees that 100% reliable, and this also happens when the PLM/ISY is plugged in the outlet near the switch, among other outlets. Anyone else have this problem?

Never mind, I got it. For those who are curious, I created a folder with a time frame of 10PM to Sunrise. 3 programs; 1 is If the module is off at 10:01, then start program 2, which is if the module is switched off, then wait an hour and switch it back on. The third program is if the module is switched on, stop the second program.

I have a simple KPL/AL scene that I want to do the following. If I turn off the scene in the evening, i want it to come on at 11:00 PM. If I turn it off after 10 PM I want it to come back on in an hour after turning off (say turn it off at 10:30PM, come back on at 11:30, OR if turned off at say 11:30PM that it comes back on at 12:30AM.). The hour rule can be in place till sunrise the next day(But I want the scene on all the time unless I turn it off). How should I write the program(s) to make that work? Thank you!