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Can the EZIO8 and its PLM communicate with the ISY & its PLM? Or is it 2 separate systems?

One thing that I can't figure out about the EZIOs and the rest of Smarthomenet's products is if they with just an ISY and PLM. The description sounds like they need a dedicated PLM. Am I missing something or just not understanding? I can't use an Elk like someone suggested - I don't have an Elk. I have a Honeywell alarm with multiple digital outputs. They toggle when zones arm, disarm, or trip. Also when driveway sensor, CO, smoke, LPG, or water sensors trip. The outputs from the DVR toggle when the cameras detect motion. I use these outputs to trigger HA events. It also has inputs that I can toggle on certain HA events. All of the systems communicate - mostly bidirectionally where needed. The HomeTroller has 5 ADIOs connected for a total of 40 I/Os. The HomeTroller is basically the nexus of everything including the ISY (which is the device handling most of the Insteon) but the HomeSeer / ISY is just so fragile. That's why I'm trying to figure out a way to remove HomeSeer altogether and just have the ISY become the nexus with all the IO directly managed by it. Plus I like removing 2 layers of complexity - fewer pathways to break.

Thanks for the suggestions. Can you speak to the response time and reliability? Those are probably the 2 most important features to me for this application.

I know there's lots of options. I'm looking for recommendations and experiences - what's good and bad and why it's an issue.

I've been using both a HomeTroller and an ISY for our home automation. I've been using HomeSeer with an ADIO to interface with our alarm panel and other relays. I've finally gotten fed up with HomeSeer and Insteon support (none) and am trying to migrate everything to my ISY and toss HomeSeer. The relay situation is my one worry. The ADIO pretty much instantly reports changes since it's physically wired to the relay and the HomeTroller. Can anyone recommend a relay interface to use with the ISY that would have quick response time?

Sorry. When you said factory reset, I thought you meant the ISY. For now, I have to let this go until next week. Our son's getting married Saturday and my wife has said "no tinkering" until it's done l

I honestly don't know. I have had 3 defective KPLs exchanged so I guess it's possible although 50% failure for the new version doesn't bode well if that's actually the case. So, before I jump in, let me run this by you to see if this sounds like the correct procedure. Delete the devices that didn't auto detect Make a backup Do a reset on the KPLs (pull out the tab on the bottom of the face for 10 seconds) Unplug PLM & ISY wait 30 seconds Plug in PLM & ISY Factory reset (hold in the button on the back right? ) Will I have to reinstall the 4.0.5 firmware or will that be preserved? Restore the backup (all info on the deleted devices should not be in the backup right? ) Start adding devices and see what happens Does that sound right to you? BTW I really appreciate your middle of the night assistance

Sorry for taking so long to follow up. I've actually had some difficulties duplicating this now. The KPLs that didn't auto detect before (manually selected device type from drop down) do auto detect now if I remove them then re-add them. I've removed them then restarted the ISY then re-added them and auto detect works. I don't think that the remove actually removes all traces from the ISY. I noticed that changes I had made to the ramp rate previously (before removing them) were preserved after re-adding them - even after restarting the ISY & PLM. Is there some way to completely remove all traces of a device? Would taking a current backup (without the troublesome KPLs added), reflashing the ISY, restore backup work? BTW one difference I noted above between the new 8 button KPLs & the old is that the old ones came configured out of the box with the LEDs turned on behind the buttons (dim when off, bright when on), but the new ones came configured with all the LEDs turned off (off when switch off, bright when switch on). Is this just Smarthome tinkering with what's not broken or something else? Thanks Edit: Forgot to add that I don't _think_ it's a communication issue. I have over 80 dual band devices installed now including access points on both phases on each floor and SignalLincs in the panel boxes. One of the KPLs is less than 10' from an access point and 4' from another 8 button (older one) KPL.

Just to follow up: I got 8 of these that, as far as I can tell, other than device ID are identical. I'm having about a 50% success rate with auto detect. The rest, I manually select as above and they seem to function correctly thereafter. Is there anything I can provide that might be able to help figure out why 4 of them didn't auto detect?

LeeG, Thanks for clarifying that (why aren't you in bed - it's too late to be forum surfing ). Should 4.0.5 auto detect the 2334-2xx KPLs?

Update: I see in the 4.0.1 it says: - Support for KeypadLinc Dimmer 5 buttons 2334-2 - Support for KeypadLinc Dimmer 8 buttons 2334-2 Shouldn't the first one be 6 button, not 5? But any way, the model number isn't quite the same. It supports 2334-2 and the ones I have are 2334-222. Don't know if the extra 22 makes any difference. Maybe it's a color indicator since WH isn't in the model number like it was on the old ones? Edit: I forgot one more difference. The old ones had a dim light behind all the keys that were "OFF" and a brighter light behind the buttons that were "ON". Out of the box, the new ones have no light at all behind "OFF" buttons and only light behind buttons that are "ON".

I wanted to chime in on this issue. I have an ISY 994i/IR PRO with UI & firmware 4.0.5. I just got some new KPLs that don't get auto detected. They are Keypad Dimmer Switch (Dual-Band) 8 Button, White Model: 2334-222. I am using the ISY994 Administrative Console on a Windows 7 machine - not the universal-devices/99i to access programming. A white sticker on the top of the face says: Insteon 2334-222 Rev.7.0 1413 The sticker on the bottom of the face just has the address. When adding a device, if I let it auto detect the type, it comes back with the error "Cannot determine Insteon Device Type". I try to manually select the device type and 2334-222 isn't listed. I take a chance and select [01.41] (2334-2) KeypadLinc Dimmer 8 buttons since it's almost the same model. It seems to work with that - the device is added and I can turn the attached load on & off from the Administrative Console. Besides the new Rev (all my previous were 6.x), the packaging is different. Both are in a white box with a white sticker affixed. The old ones said SMARTHOME at the top of the label in blue. Below that it said "KeypadLinc tm 8-Button" on the 2nd line and "Dimmer #2486DWH8" on the 3rd line. Below that, there's the Insteon logo (black circle with blue vertical bar at the top and Insteon Compatible under the circle), the UPC, then a logo that looks like a black circle with the letters ETL in a stylized font inside the circle and the word listed in the bottom of the circle. There's a "c" on the left of the ETL logo and "US" on the right of it. It has a horizontal black line under it with the word "Intertek" below that. Next line has "800-762-7845 www.smarthome.com" and the last line says "U.S. Patent No. 7,345,998 International patents pending". The new ones do not say Smarthome anywhere on the label or packaging. The new label is all black & white - no blue. The first line is "INSTEON ®" with the O being the Insteon logo (vertical dash at top of O). 2nd line says "Keypad Dimmer Switch (Dual-Band)". 3rd Line says "8 Button, White Model 2334-222". Below that there's a fine horizontal line. Next line says "100-277VAC, 50/60Hz; 600 Watts". Below that is the same ETL as the old ones and the UPC to the right of that. Another fine horizontal line below that. The last line says "INSTEON.COM Protected under U.S. and foreign patents Made in China". Sorry for the long description, I don't have a scanner attached to this machine to get a good picture for you. I'll try to get one later.