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I have a circulator that circulates hot water to our master bedroom with a return line and temperature sensor. That way, we do not have to run the water to get it hot. It runs about 1 minute every hour. I have an Insteon On/Off switch to control the power (for now, call it S1). I’d like to turn off power from 11 pm to 5 am. Simple: I have a program If From 5 AM to 11 PM, Then Set Scene “MBR Hw Circulator Enabled” On Else Set Scene “MBR Hw Circulator Enabled” Off That works fine. The scene has two members: S1 (above) that directly controls the load and R1G – a button on an 8 scene Toggle mini remote. Both S1 and R1G are controller/responders. My intent is to use the remote button to toggle the scene back on if I get up early and need the circulator to run – or at least return to auto mode where the temperature sensor decides if the circulator is needed. The problem is that when the program sets the scene to off, the remote button correctly responds and shows off, but pressing the remote’s button does not toggle the scene back on. It will if I press the button twice. Ideas?

I'll have the GDO in by tomorrow. FilterLinks might take a few days to get here. So, I'll find out if noise is a problem.

I don't suppose the power supply that comes with the Insteon 74551 Garage Door Control & Status Kit includes noise filtering. Too much to ask??

Thanks all. Decided on Liftmaster 8355W with the MyQ technology. I've never played with Polyglot or Nodeserver. Guess I have some homework to do.

Thanks. What brand/model GDO did you use?

I have three older garage door openers (Overhead Door 556/656). Each has an Insteon kit. The insteon I/O Linc's output relay allows me to open/close via two-wire contacts. One opener died and needs to be replaced. But, it seems that all the new door openers use coded keypads, not two-wire push buttons. Does anyone know of a garage door opener that will allow a simple relay (two-wire) contact interface to my Insteon network so I can open/close using MobiLink or the admin panel? I would like to think that there must be one, even with coded remotes, that will allow a two-wire interface.

I too would like that. I want to be able to disable some devives when I go away, but enable them just prior to my return home.

Thanks.

Can a 6 button Keypad Dimmer be changed to an 8 button Keypad Dimmer? Or, can ONLY a KeypadLInk (switch, no dimmer) undergo the 6/8 button transformation? I know an 8 button Keypad dimmer is sold. But, if I can convert an existing 6 button dimmer it would be easier. Thanks. Bob S.

That was it. Tried changing to incadescent bulb - still did not link. The nearest Dual Link switch and the nearest SignalLinc RF were too far away. The new switch is in the garage and the nearest RF was about 40 ft way (SignaLinc) through 2x6 wall and metal door. Even with the door open it would not link. So, been meaning to put the driveway lights on Insteon for quite awhile. Changed the two switches in the garage to Dual Band Switchlincs (added to Scene for three way operation). This gave me the RF I needed and the 2-wire switch successfully linked. Thanks all.

I have an LED installed. I will try an incandescence tomorrow. I have PLM and think that RF is in range; But that is something to check also. Thanks. I'll update after I do some testing as suggested.

I installed a 2474 DWH 2 wire Switchlink. It works fine manually. I was unable to link it to my ISY 994i/iR Pro – running v4.3.26. It is switching a hot wire to a light – no neutral in the box. I tried using Link Management/Start Linking and pressing the set button. I also tried manually by using Link Management/New Insteon Device. I added the address and a description. I tried first using Auto Discover and then also tried by selecting the 2474 DWH. Either way I get: “New Device Errors The following device could not be added: 1F.C8.33 Cannot determine Insteon Engine.” Anyone have any ideas? Bob spr1@rpsa-fire.com

2013 03 25 Michel - Thanks for looking at these for me. More testing of the Smoke Bridge and ISY. Here is one set test Events. If I’m reading this correct, the Smoke alarm is Group 1 for the address. And, Clear is Group 5. I just figured out that to know the group number, I have to right click and choose rename to the see the full address and group number. (Is there some other way?) 2013 03 25 Smoke Alerm Test allowed to clear itself. Mon 3/25/2013 12:40:55 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.01 CB 11 80 LTONRR (80) Mon 3/25/2013 12:40:55 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Mon 3/25/2013 12:40:55 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 1] DON 128 Mon 3/25/2013 12:40:55 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 1] ST 255 Mon 3/25/2013 12:40:55 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.01 CB 06 00 (00) Mon 3/25/2013 12:40:55 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:07 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.01 CB 11 80 LTONRR (80) Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:07 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:07 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 1] DON 128 Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:07 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.01 CB 06 00 (00) Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:07 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 This must be the Clear signal. Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:24 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.05 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:24 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=5, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:24 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 5] DON 0 Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:24 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 1] ST 0 Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:24 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.05 CB 06 00 (00) Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:24 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.05, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:36 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.05 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:36 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=5, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:36 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 5] DON 0 Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:36 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.05 CB 06 00 (00) Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:36 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.05, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:48 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.05 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:48 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=5, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:48 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 5] DON 0 Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:48 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.05 CB 06 00 (00) Mon 3/25/2013 12:41:48 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.05, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 I can get notifications for activation of the Smoke node (Group 1) and the Test node (Group3). I cannot test CO (yet), Malfunction, Low Bat. or Unknown Message nodes. I have not been able to get notifications for Clear, even though the alarm does clear and does seem to send some communications. I even tried creating programs to notify for Clear On and for Clear Off. Is there something in the Event log that hints at why the event is not triggering the program? Here is the Clear On program: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ If Status '23.4E.5B-Smoke / 23.4E.5B-Clear' is On Then Send Notification to 'Default' content 'First Alert Clear On' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 'Default' has my special “Alert†email address and my phone for getting texts – and it works for all other notifications I have set up. Thanks for your help. Bob S.

Thanks. I do have Clear in a program to send me a notification - BUT I just noticed I had the condition set to "Respond" instead of "On". I changed it but can not test until tomorrow - after my wife goes to work I can make all the noise I want. I'll post an update if I get it to work - or not. I would guess that Malfunction is just that. But, it would be nice if the mfg would let you know what "Unknown Message" is. p.s. - Is the incorrect node label - CO2 which should be CO - something that is in the Insteon program or does that come from the smoke bridge? And, who would change it?

OK - I upgraded.... First I removed the smoke bridge from the 99i. Backed up. Removed the 99i and installed the 994i. Restored my backup. Upgraded to v 4.0.2. Cleared Java cache, etc. Added the smoke bridge back to isy network. It now links seven nodes: Smoke CO2 (Note – should be CO, not CO2) Clear Low Bat Malfunction Test Unknown Message I created custom notifications for each event when “Onâ€. Tested with the test button. The Test node changes state to “On†and I get my notification. Tested with the canned smoke. The Smoke node changes state to “On†and I get my notification. When I cleared the smoke and the smoke alarm returned to normal, I expected the Clear state to change to “onâ€. Nope. Tried again, but this time I There is no way for me test low bat, malfunction and CO. I have no idea what “Unknown Message†is. Interestingly, I can right click and query each of the nodes and they all show “Off†except the Clear node. It shows nothing. I’m guessing you would like to see a level 3 event log. So, I tested again after clearing the Event Log. Here it is. By the way, there are 4 CO/Smoke alarm units interconnected to each other. I’m hoping it does not matter which gets tested or activated since I used different ones for different tests – to test their interconnection to each other at the same time. I would think that does not matter and that the smoke bridge is simply activated the same regardless of the originating unit. Here it is: After upgrade to ISY 994i/IR Pro and v 4.0.2 First I used the Test button (12:43:32 and :12:43:44) Sun 3/24/2013 12:43:32 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.03 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:43:32 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=3, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:43:32 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 3] DON 0 Sun 3/24/2013 12:43:32 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 3] ST 255 Sun 3/24/2013 12:43:32 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.03 CB 06 00 (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:43:32 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.03, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:43:44 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.03 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:43:44 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=3, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:43:44 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 3] DON 0 Sun 3/24/2013 12:43:44 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.03 CB 06 00 (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:43:44 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.03, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Next I used canned smoke (12:45:56 and 12:46:07). Sun 3/24/2013 12:45:56 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.01 CB 11 80 LTONRR (80) Sun 3/24/2013 12:45:56 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:45:56 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 1] DON 128 Sun 3/24/2013 12:45:56 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 1] ST 255 Sun 3/24/2013 12:45:56 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.01 CB 06 00 (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:45:56 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:46:07 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.01 CB 11 80 LTONRR (80) Sun 3/24/2013 12:46:07 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:46:07 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 1] DON 128 Sun 3/24/2013 12:46:07 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.01 CB 06 00 (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:46:07 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 "I used the hush button, and I got events at 12:48:18 through 12:49:06 but never got a “Clear†change in state or associated notification. " Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:18 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.05 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:18 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=5, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:18 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 5] DON 0 Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:18 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 1] ST 0 Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:18 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.05 CB 06 00 (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:18 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.05, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:30 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.05 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:30 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=5, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:30 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 5] DON 0 Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:30 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.05 CB 06 00 (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:30 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.05, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:42 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.05 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:42 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=5, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:42 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 5] DON 0 Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:42 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.05 CB 06 00 (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:42 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.05, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:54 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.05 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:54 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=5, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:54 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 5] DON 0 Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:54 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.05 CB 06 00 (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:48:54 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.05, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:49:06 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.05 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:49:06 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=5, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:49:06 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 5] DON 0 Sun 3/24/2013 12:49:06 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.05 CB 06 00 (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:49:06 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.05, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 So, I tried smoke again, but allowed the smoke to clear without using the hush button (the smoke alarms are non-latching. Events 12:52:32 through 12:52:45. Sun 3/24/2013 12:52:32 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.01 CB 11 80 LTONRR (80) Sun 3/24/2013 12:52:32 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:52:32 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 1] DON 128 Sun 3/24/2013 12:52:32 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 1] ST 255 Sun 3/24/2013 12:52:33 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.01 CB 06 00 (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:52:33 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:52:44 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.01 CB 11 80 LTONRR (80) Sun 3/24/2013 12:52:44 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:52:44 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 1] DON 128 Sun 3/24/2013 12:52:45 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.01 CB 06 00 (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:52:45 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 "When the smoke cleared (pardon the pun) I got events 12:55:17 through 12:55:41. Again, no change in “Clear†state and no notifications." Sun 3/24/2013 12:55:17 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.05 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:55:17 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=5, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:55:17 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 5] DON 0 Sun 3/24/2013 12:55:17 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 1] ST 0 Sun 3/24/2013 12:55:18 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.05 CB 06 00 (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:55:18 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.05, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:55:28 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.05 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:55:28 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=5, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:55:28 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 5] DON 0 Sun 3/24/2013 12:55:29 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.05 CB 06 00 (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:55:29 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.05, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:55:40 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.05 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:55:40 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=5, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/24/2013 12:55:40 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 5] DON 0 Sun 3/24/2013 12:55:41 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.05 CB 06 00 (00) Sun 3/24/2013 12:55:41 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.05, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Is there some way to find out what these nodes are supposed be for? (Clear, Malfunction and Unknown Message). Bob S.

OK. But to do that I understand that I first have to change out my ISY 99i/IR PRO for a ISY994i/IR PRO. Somehow I knew the solution would not be fast and easy. I don’t know about “inactive group cleanupsâ€, but my leak sensors, which were also a challenge to get working, are now working consistently. See my “set-up instructions†in the SH forum at: http://www.smarthome.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12166 (posted 2/2/13). Thanks for your help. Bob S.

OK – I ran some controlled tests: Set Event Viewer to Level 3 and cleared the log. Activated smoke alarm with canned smoke. Four lines were entered for the Smoke Bridge address (23.4E.5B) in the log before the units even started sounding. Then four more lines were logged up as they started sounding the alarm. I then operated the silence button and cleared the unit with canned air. Saved log to file: ISY-Events-Log.v3.3.10__Sun 2013.03.03 01.29.49 PM.txt ++++++++++++++ First Smoke Alarm Test Sun 3/3/2013 1:25:36 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.01 CB 11 80 LTONRR (80) Sun 3/3/2013 1:25:36 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/3/2013 1:25:36 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.01 CB 06 00 (00) Sun 3/3/2013 1:25:36 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/3/2013 1:25:48 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.01 C7 11 80 LTONRR (80) Sun 3/3/2013 1:25:48 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Sun 3/3/2013 1:25:48 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.01 C7 06 00 (00) Sun 3/3/2013 1:25:48 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Sun 3/3/2013 1:28:39 PM : [ Time] 13:28:39 28(0) +++++++++++++++ The first four entries are identical to the 2nd set of four entries 12 seconds later EXCEPT for one minor difference in the last line. In the 1st set the last line has Hope Left = 2, in the 2nd set, the last line has Hops Left = 1. I don’t know what that means. (I added the blank rows to make it easier to read.) Throughout the test there was no change in the Current State of my network for that node. A light that I Iinked to the Smoke Bridge did turn on, but did not log in the Event Viewer. Was this because I linked it manually, not using the ISY – and because it was done after adding it to the network so the link was not imported? I mentioned previously that I have a program set to send an email and a text when the node is “Onâ€. I added another to send the same message if the node was “Responding†– just in case the Smoke Bridge is acting as a responder to the actual smoke alarms. I then ran the same test again. The first four lines show up immediately upon activation of the Smoke Bridge (LED changes from steady green to steady red). The second set of four lines get logged when the units start sounding. This time, all entries were identical, including Hops Left = 2. No changes in the Current State and no emails or text messages sent. I then manually removed the link to the light. I cleared the Event Viewer and tried tapping the set button on the Smoke Bridge. According to the manual this should cause it to cycle through the following five notifications: Smoke detected; Carbon Monoxide detected; Low battery detected; Error; All Clear. The Event Viewer responded by logging 12 lines. They came in as three groups of four lines separated by a couple of seconds time. (I added the blank rows to make it easier to read.) +++++++++++++++ Sun 3/3/2013 2:25:49 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.01 CB 11 80 LTONRR (80) Sun 3/3/2013 2:25:49 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/3/2013 2:25:50 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.01 CB 06 00 (00) Sun 3/3/2013 2:25:50 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/3/2013 2:25:51 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.02 CB 11 40 LTONRR (40) Sun 3/3/2013 2:25:51 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=2, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/3/2013 2:25:52 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.02 CB 06 00 (00) Sun 3/3/2013 2:25:52 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.02, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/3/2013 2:25:56 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 00.00.06 CB 11 10 LTONRR (10) Sun 3/3/2013 2:25:56 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->Group=6, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/3/2013 2:25:57 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.4E.5B 11.00.06 CB 06 00 (00) Sun 3/3/2013 2:25:57 PM : [std-Group ] 23.4E.5B-->11.00.06, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 +++++++++++++++ I then created a test scene using the Admin Console with a single light as a responder and the smoke node as a controller. I instantly got my notification text message and email!!!!! But I did not see any changes in Current State. I also received the following error message: “Failed Communicating With, Cannot Communicate with 23.4E.5B 1) Please check connections.†I assume this is because it cannot be queried. ++++++++++++++ Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:23 PM : [23.4E.5B-Smok e] Start : Adding to scene 'test sconces' Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:23 PM : [23.4E.5B-Smok e] Making 'test sconces' a Controller Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:23 PM : [MNG-LNK-RSP ] 02 6F 40 E2 13 23 4E 5B 10 0A 43 06 Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:23 PM : [23.4E.5B-Smok e] Making '1st S1-2 Sun Rm Sconces' a Responder Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:24 PM : [23.4E.5B-Smok e] Finish : Adding to scene 'test sconces' was Successful Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:24 PM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 1D E5 5A 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F E7 08 A2 01 23 4E 5B FF 1F 01 43 Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:24 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1D.E5.5A 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F E7 08 A2 01 23 4E 5B FF 1F 01 43 06 (00) Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:25 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 1] ERR 0 Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:25 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.E5.5A 0D.FD.11 2B 2F 00 (00) Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:25 PM : [std-Direct Ac k] 1D.E5.5A-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:25 PM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 23 4E 5B 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F DF 08 A2 13 0D FD 11 FF 1F 01 EA Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:25 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 23.4E.5B 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F DF 08 A2 13 0D FD 11 FF 1F 01 EA 06 (00) Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:34 PM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 23 4E 5B 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F DF 08 A2 13 0D FD 11 FF 1F 01 EA Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:34 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 23.4E.5B 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F DF 08 A2 13 0D FD 11 FF 1F 01 EA 06 (00) Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:43 PM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 23 4E 5B 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F DF 08 A2 13 0D FD 11 FF 1F 01 EA Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:43 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 23.4E.5B 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F DF 08 A2 13 0D FD 11 FF 1F 01 EA 06 (00) Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:47 PM : [ 23 4E 5B 1] ERR 1 Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:47 PM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 1D E5 5A 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F E7 08 A2 01 23 4E 5B FF 1F 01 43 Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:47 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1D.E5.5A 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F E7 08 A2 01 23 4E 5B FF 1F 01 43 06 (00) Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:48 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.E5.5A 0D.FD.11 2B 2F 00 (00) Sun 3/3/2013 2:46:48 PM : [std-Direct Ac k] 1D.E5.5A-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 ++++++++++++++ I ran another smoke test and got the same eight entries in the Event Viewer as before. But, no changes in state, no text/email and NO activation of the scene to turn the light on. I tried tapping the set button again to run a test. Same 12 entries (three groups of four) but NO scene activation and NO notifications. Next I removed the Smoke Bridge as a controller of the scene then added it back in. I got my email and text notifications. I don’t think the scene was triggered – I did not see the light’s status change and am too far away to watch the actual lights. I’m not sure what is happening. Any help would be appreciated. I’d be willing to do some more testing if you have ideas that might lead to a solution or that might help the ISY developer’s. Bob S.

OK - BTW, until I get some canned CO, I won't be able to generate a "real" CO test since the test button, by default, will NOT actually generate a state change for Insteon to respond to. I have access to some CO test gas and will get some this week to test. Bob

Thanks all. The safety side is covered - the smoke/co alarms work and I'm not relying on the interface to ISY for anything more than reporting and info logging. But, as you say, others, with different circumstances and needs, might be cautious about relying on that link/response until the details are worked out. I'll do some additional testing to try and narrow down - or at least document - the connectivity and reporting problem/issues. It might be a few days before I can take the time to do some systematic playing and before I can post the results. Bob

OK - Before I do that, is there a way I should format the txt file to make it easier to read? And then just copy and paste in the reply? And, do I have to set the Event Log to level 3 before I run all those tests all over again? I had it set to 1 before when I was setting up. Bob

I'm having problems getting my ISY to see changes in the Smoke Bridge. OK…To set the stage: I have a commercial fire detection and alarm system in my house with 16 smoke detectors, 12 heat detectors and a sprinkler (fire) waterflow switch – yes the whole house and garage have fire sprinklers. (I’m a fire protection engineers – have to take my own advice.) I chose the First Alert One Link to be able to wirelessly add CO and link it into my Insteon system with the new Smoke Bridge. I bought three combination CO/Photoelectric smoke alarms (alarms are stand alone, detectors connect to a panel), one for each level. I was able to set each up with the “voice†to announce the location. I was able to link each with the others so they all go off when one goes off. I plug in the Smoke Bridge, enter linking mode and then press the test button on one of the CO/smoke alarms. The linking LED changes from blinking green to blinking red, then goes to steady green. I assume this means a successful link. I have an ISY99i running version 3.3.10. I use the New Insteon Device to manually add the Smoke Bridge. I enter the address and select “Insteon Smoke Sensor†from the Device Type dropdown box. Click ok and it finds the Smoke Bridge. Three nodes get added to my network, each with a flame for an icon and each without anything to distinguish what each means. Are they the three CO/Smoke alarms? Or, could one be smoke, one CO and one trouble? The current state for each of three nodes is blank. I Query and the state stays blank. I do >Diagnostics>Query Insteon Engine and each of the three nodes shows “writing†for a second and then goes back to the flame icon. I wrote three programs to notify me by email and text if any of the three nodes is “Onâ€. Using the test button on any of three I do NOT get any change in Current State for any of the three nodes. Hey, maybe a Test does not pass through the Smoke Bridge. Being the consummate pro, I use canned smoke to test the CO/Smoke alarms. No change in state, no notification, no entries in my event log. Soooo, I manually linked the Smoke Bridge to a light. The test button does not cause the light to respond. Testing with canned smoke caused the light to respond. But, no status changes on my ISY network. Regarding the test button, the manual says that this is normal: “Using the Set button to create a link to a responder links it to the Smoke Detected group only. To link to the test button group, you must use software or a smart device (iOS or Android) app.†That made me think that the Smoke Bridge and CO/Smoke alarms are working and linking fine. The problem must be in the ISY99i. So, I deleted the Smoke Bridge from my network and re-linked it. This time I used >Link Management>Start Linking and manually pressed the set button on the Smoke Bridge. It gets found and linked and three new nodes are added. This time though one node is Smoke, one is CO and the last is Low Bat. Actually the CO node came up incorrectly with a default name using the address and “CO2â€, which is carbon dioxide, not carbon monoxide (CO). Success? Let do some testing…. Nope. Still no response when I query the three nodes and no response when the smoke alarm is activated using simulated smoke. The Smoke Bridge does blink red when the smoke alarm activates, it’s just not updating the ISY. The Event Viewer shows that the address was successfully added. But that’s it. Any ideas?