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That does help me sort out the events a little more. Here is a little more detail now that I pieced the names with the addresses. I put the names stuff in parentheses after the events. Here is the scene setup in ISY: Living Room Lights -- Back Door KP.C "as controller" -- Front Door KP.B "as controller -- Living Room LL "LampLinc responder" -- Living Room SW "SwitchLinc dimmer as controller" 2008/11/06 15:00:48 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0D.15.18 00.00.01 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) (switchlinc dimmer I turned on) 2008/11/06 15:00:48 : [ D 15 18 1] DON 0 (switchlinc dimmer v.27) 2008/11/06 15:00:48 : [ D 15 18 1] ST 255 (same switch as above) 2008/11/06 15:00:48 : [ D 48 37 1] ST 255 (lamplinc dimmer v.33) 2008/11/06 15:00:48 : [ E 9 5C 5] ST 255 (Back door Keypad C turned on – scene controller) 2008/11/06 15:00:48 : [ A B4 62 2] ST 255 (Front door Keypad B turned on – scene controller) The above is the SwitchLinc is pressed, the LampLinc and keypad controller buttons turn on all correctly. There is now a light on so the ISY updates the All Off LED Status Scene and turns them on correctly. 2008/11/06 15:00:49 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.00.1D CF 11 FF 06 LTONRR (FF) (all off/on keypad scene controlled by ISY) 2008/11/06 15:00:49 : [ C 89 E6 6] ST 255 (Master Br Keypad D turned on) 2008/11/06 15:00:49 : [ E 9 5C 6] ST 255 (Back door Keypad D turned on) 2008/11/06 15:00:49 : [ A B4 62 8] ST 255 (Front door Keypad H turned on) 25 minutes go by and this event happens: 2008/11/06 15:26:42 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0D.15.18 00.00.01 C7 13 00 LTOFFRR(00) (no one touched this switch so this must be where ISY is turning them off still) 2008/11/06 15:26:42 : [ D 15 18 1] DOF 0 2008/11/06 15:26:42 : [ D 15 18 1] ST 0 2008/11/06 15:26:42 : [ D 48 37 1] ST 0 2008/11/06 15:26:42 : [ E 9 5C 5] ST 0 2008/11/06 15:26:42 : [ A B4 62 2] ST 0 The SwitchLinc, LampLinc and 2 connected keypad buttons turn off. No one touched any switch in the house at all during this time period. No other controllers are in the house. This same event happens no matter if the switchlinc or either keypad are used to turn on the lights initially. Then this event happens: 2008/11/06 15:26:43 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.00.1D CF 13 00 06 LTOFFRR(00) (ISY turns off the All Off LED’s) 2008/11/06 15:26:43 : [ C 89 E6 6] ST 0 2008/11/06 15:26:43 : [ E 9 5C 6] ST 0 2008/11/06 15:26:43 : [ A B4 62 8] ST 0 The ISY turns off the All On LEDs since the only lights on were just turned off. I dumped the Elk export file as well as the programs and searched but could not find anything that shed any more light on this. I can post or send them if that would help. Thanks again, Josh

I captured both the one and the off events and pasted it below. 2008/11/06 15:00:48 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0D.15.18 00.00.01 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) 2008/11/06 15:00:48 : [ D 15 18 1] DON 0 2008/11/06 15:00:48 : [ D 15 18 1] ST 255 2008/11/06 15:00:48 : [ D 48 37 1] ST 255 2008/11/06 15:00:48 : [ E 9 5C 5] ST 255 2008/11/06 15:00:48 : [ A B4 62 2] ST 255 2008/11/06 15:00:49 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.00.1D CF 11 FF 06 LTONRR (FF) 2008/11/06 15:00:49 : [ C 89 E6 6] ST 255 2008/11/06 15:00:49 : [ E 9 5C 6] ST 255 2008/11/06 15:00:49 : [ A B4 62 8] ST 255 2008/11/06 15:00:49 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0D.15.18 0D.FC.49 46 11 01 LTONRR (01) 2008/11/06 15:10:49 : [ Time] 15:10:55 4(0) 2008/11/06 15:20:48 : [ Time] 15:20:55 4(0) 2008/11/06 15:26:11 : [ Time] 15:26:19 0(0) 2008/11/06 15:26:11 : [ Time] 15:26:19 0(0) 2008/11/06 15:26:11 : [ Time] 15:26:19 0(0) 2008/11/06 15:26:12 : [ Time] 15:26:19 0(0) 2008/11/06 15:26:42 : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0D.15.18 00.00.01 C7 13 00 LTOFFRR(00) 2008/11/06 15:26:42 : [ D 15 18 1] DOF 0 2008/11/06 15:26:42 : [ D 15 18 1] ST 0 2008/11/06 15:26:42 : [ D 48 37 1] ST 0 2008/11/06 15:26:42 : [ E 9 5C 5] ST 0 2008/11/06 15:26:42 : [ A B4 62 2] ST 0 2008/11/06 15:26:43 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.00.1D CF 13 00 06 LTOFFRR(00) 2008/11/06 15:26:43 : [ C 89 E6 6] ST 0 2008/11/06 15:26:43 : [ E 9 5C 6] ST 0 2008/11/06 15:26:43 : [ A B4 62 8] ST 0 2008/11/06 15:26:44 : [ Time] 15:26:51 0(0) 2008/11/06 15:26:45 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.00.2A CF 13 00 06 LTOFFRR(00) I don't have an Elk in the house either. This one is really starting to puzzle me. It looks like there is a line in there after the time events that is calling it to go off. Is there any way to tell what is initiating that? Thanks for the help. Josg

Thanks for the quick response. I tried it again this evening at the level 2 logging and am posting that below. As it was after sunset when I tried this the lights did not go off after the 25 min delay so I will try it as soon as I can during daylight hours but figured I would post this for now in case it helps figure it out. There are no timerlincs or keypad timer lincs anywhere in the network. The only intelligent controller is the ISY99-Pro. I couldn't tell if the entries above are from ISY programs or not. Also, I believe the program I wrote originally left the lights on for a period, then dimmed them as a warning they were about to go off, then turned them off. Don't know if that will help make more sense of the above or not. Let me know if this helps. Thanks, Josh

I at one time created a program that would turn off living room lights during daylight hours after 25 minutes thinking it would save energy. I often need the lights on during the day and deleted the program from the ISY-99 as it was not useful. Somehow, the lights will still turn themselves off after 25 minutes. I can't figure out where this would still be happening from unless the ISY. It doesn't seem restoring devices would help. I since upgraded from v2.6.4 to 2.6.7 thinking it may help but it continues. I ran event viewer and switched the lights on via a connected keypad and waited until they went off. Below was what it showed. The setup is a switchlinc and lamplinc connected as a scene and controlled also via 2 keypad lincs. With no buttons being pushed an off command is still issued 25 minutes later. No program is visible in the program details or summary table. Any advice on where to go next? Do I need to restore the ISY or the PLM? Thanks, Josh

Does the restore devices function in the ISY-99 delete existing links that were created manually on devices? Having failed to read the forum advice before setting up my ISY-99 I added it to the existing Insteon network and did not use the delete existing links option. I tried to manually unlink the devices later then but I still seem to get some "ghost" links where keypad buttons now activate both the old device they were linked to manually as well as the new device they were linked to with the ISY. Any advice on how to get them to just do the devices I have them set with in the ISY? Thanks, Josh