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Still don't see how going via some cloud based gateway can ever be faster than the direct connection. I control my system via the admin console and mobilinc and both respond almost instantaneously. I even run 12 cameras over the mobilinc at the same time with no issues. I really haven't seen anyone come up with a real benefit of the portal where it adds real value. Credential management is a non issue as usernames and passwords are easy to change if necessary. Dynamic DNS solves any issues with having to use an IP address. Where I need secure connections I just use VPN and so I don't need to bother running everything with HTTPS. What I don't understand is why Alexa needs to run via the portal. Can someone explain?

Hi, I'm still very confused as to what the portal is meant to do and why I should possibly need it. I'm quite happy with doing my external access through port forwarding on my router and using VPN connections. Why will the Alexa integration only work with the portal?

ISY is configured to use gmail. I don't think the ISY ever gets to send the mail to gmail as it has a problem with more than 32767 characters. If I use another application I can send mails with more than 32767 characters via gmail smtp

So I have done some more testing.... I have gone back to basics: Plain text email, no parameters, no html or xml. I have determined the following: 1) a new line eats up 4 characters of space (not 1 or 2 as would have been expected for LF/CR or just LF) 2) The limit appears to be the 32767 integer limit 3) The limit includes the email subject text as well as the body text. 4) I would expect (but didn't test) that the "to" and "From" email adresses are also included in that limit. So my guess would be that the ISY is building a charater string for the email information and the lenght of the character string is limited to 16 bits. Michel, could you check if this is what is happening and look for a possible workaround if ift is. For my HTLM email with paramter substitution I quess there must be some sort of processing on the parameter replacement that causes it to hit the limit even though the number of charaters in the mail is actually much lower - but that is just a guess

Hi Michel, SMTP delay is already set to the mayimum of 10 seconds (10,000 milliseconds) - It doesn't appear possible to set it higher than that in the admin console. I was playing around yesterday trying to find what the character limit was. It seems to change depending on the information in the file. By this I mean if the characters are pure text (and no substitution is performed by the ISY, or if they are a tag (e.g ${sys.node.xx xx xx 1.st} ) where substitution will be performed. Naturally its difficult to determine the exact size of the message that the ISY will be trying to send out after substitution but I have looked at the HTML received in the mail and it appears to be around the 15221 characters where the limit is reached. In addition I have looked to see if this is an issue with the gmail SMTP interface and I am able to send out mails to gmail of a much larger size than this without problems. Not sure is any of that helps in any way. peter.

My problem is the sending of emails when the size of the mail reaches a certain limit - I don't see that this would be influenced by the DNS or static IP address. Messages go out fine if they are under ca 19950 characters.

Hi Michel, I'm already using a gmail account for SMTP'ing my messages - I experienced a lot of delays in the early days when using the UDI default server so I switched. Below are the entries from the error log for the last few days. Unfortunately you need to understand the codes to make any sense of it so it doesn't help me much. What I have just seen is that my daily updates haven't been sent since Sunday and there are "Sun 2015/09/27 23:59:03 System -50001 -19 " entries at the time that it should be sent. The reason is after testing I forgot to reduce the number of characters back down below the threshold mentioned in my original post (probably forgot to press the SAVE button before exiting ). I have just edited the file and sent a test mail and it worked perfectly. I don't believe it's an HTML error or any sort as I can remove or add charaters anywhere in the file and it will either work or not work depending on the total number of characters. Fri 2015/09/25 03:31:12 System -140007 CLI-HAMW Fri 2015/09/25 03:31:12 System -140007 CLI-HAMW Fri 2015/09/25 03:31:12 System -140007 CLI-HAMW Fri 2015/09/25 03:36:12 System -140007 CLI-HAMW Fri 2015/09/25 03:36:12 System -140007 CLI-HAMW Fri 2015/09/25 03:36:12 System -140007 CLI-HAMW Fri 2015/09/25 08:39:42 System -170001 [uDSockets] HTTP:30 error:6 Fri 2015/09/25 08:39:52 System -170001 [uDSockets] HTTP:32 error:6 Fri 2015/09/25 16:56:19 System -140005 CLI-HAMW Fri 2015/09/25 16:56:24 System -140005 CLI-HAMW Fri 2015/09/25 16:56:29 System -140005 CLI-HAMW Fri 2015/09/25 17:06:19 System -140005 CLI-HAMW Fri 2015/09/25 17:06:24 System -140005 CLI-HAMW Fri 2015/09/25 17:06:29 System -140005 CLI-HAMW Fri 2015/09/25 17:21:20 System -140005 CLI-HAMW Sat 2015/09/26 03:00:37 System -170001 [uDSockets] HTTP:30 error:6 Sat 2015/09/26 03:00:47 System -170001 [uDSockets] HTTP:32 error:6 Sun 2015/09/27 06:41:57 System -50001 -19 Sun 2015/09/27 06:45:19 System -50001 -19 Sun 2015/09/27 06:47:41 System -50001 -19 Sun 2015/09/27 07:10:25 System -50001 -19 Sun 2015/09/27 07:22:15 System -50001 -19 Sun 2015/09/27 07:30:30 System -50001 -19 Sun 2015/09/27 07:41:14 System -5012 32 Sun 2015/09/27 12:39:47 System -170001 [uDSockets] HTTP:31 error:6 Sun 2015/09/27 17:34:14 System -170001 [uDSockets] RSub:31 error:6 Sun 2015/09/27 23:59:03 System -50001 -19 Mon 2015/09/28 03:00:43 System -10 n/a Mon 2015/09/28 03:31:13 System -140007 CLI-HAMW Mon 2015/09/28 03:31:13 System -140007 CLI-HAMW Mon 2015/09/28 03:31:13 System -140007 CLI-HAMW Mon 2015/09/28 03:36:13 System -140007 CLI-HAMW Mon 2015/09/28 03:36:13 System -140007 CLI-HAMW Mon 2015/09/28 03:36:13 System -140007 CLI-HAMW Mon 2015/09/28 04:40:00 System -10 n/a Mon 2015/09/28 19:31:25 System -140005 CLI-HAMW Mon 2015/09/28 20:11:16 System -140008 CLI-HAMW:500 Mon 2015/09/28 23:59:02 System -50001 -19 Tue 2015/09/29 00:19:15 System -5012 35 Tue 2015/09/29 23:59:04 System -50001 -19 Wed 2015/09/30 03:00:59 System -170001 [uDSockets] HTTP:32 error:6 Wed 2015/09/30 03:01:09 System -170001 [uDSockets] HTTP:31 error:6 Wed 2015/09/30 03:01:14 System -170001 [uDSockets] HTTP:31 error:6 Wed 2015/09/30 03:18:24 System -170001 [uDSockets] RSub:29 error:6 Wed 2015/09/30 03:18:29 System -170001 [uDSockets] RSub:29 error:6 Wed 2015/09/30 03:18:34 System -170001 [uDSockets] RSub:29 error:6 Wed 2015/09/30 03:18:39 System -5012 38 Wed 2015/09/30 23:59:02 System -50001 -19 Thu 2015/10/01 14:26:19 System -140000 api.aerisapi.com Thu 2015/10/01 18:09:59 System -5012 39 Thu 2015/10/01 18:10:00 System -5006 uuid:39 Thu 2015/10/01 18:10:00 System -5012 40 Thu 2015/10/01 20:16:21 System -140005 CLI-HAMW Thu 2015/10/01 20:16:27 System -140005 CLI-HAMW Thu 2015/10/01 20:16:32 System -140005 CLI-HAMW Thu 2015/10/01 20:21:21 System -140005 CLI-HAMW Thu 2015/10/01 20:21:26 System -140005 CLI-HAMW Thu 2015/10/01 20:21:32 System -140005 CLI-HAMW Thu 2015/10/01 23:59:02 System -50001 -19 Fri 2015/10/02 03:31:15 System -140007 CLI-HAMW Fri 2015/10/02 03:31:15 System -140007 CLI-HAMW Fri 2015/10/02 03:31:15 System -140007 CLI-HAMW Fri 2015/10/02 03:36:15 System -140007 CLI-HAMW Fri 2015/10/02 03:36:15 System -140007 CLI-HAMW Fri 2015/10/02 03:36:15 System -140007 CLI-HAMW

Michel, so sorry for the delay in replying. I've had a look at the field that you mentioned and it is NOT checked. Peter

I've come accross a strange problem today whilst trying to update my HTLM formatted status email that I have sent to me on a regular basis. The issue (as far as I can tell) appears to be related to the number of characters in the email. My status mail sends me all sorts of information relating to my chalets current status. (see attached image(s) for an example of what it looks like). As it has lots of references to variables and device statuses there are a large number of characters in the file. What I have noticed is that if the file contains 19934 charaters (or less) it is sent out the mail without any problems. If it has ca. 19979 (or more) characters it fails to be sent. There appears to be no error message being placed in the error log. Does anyone else have this problem? Peter.

Io_guy, Your middleman suggestion sounds like a good compromise for my setup. I have two GEMs running wired Ethernet to a single dash box. The dash box then sends out the data to SEG. For the last few weeks SEG hasn't been working correctly and Sam doesn't appear to be monitoring the Forum which is a real shame as I really like the SEG user interface for monitoring. The DashBox is improving but still needs some work. For my setup I don't want to run either the serial or the wifi connection between the GEMs and the Dashbox so the node server either has to accept the output from the dash box (and allow forwarding onto SEG) or accept the output from multiple GEMs and forward it to the DashBox. It's really great that your investing time on this. I was waiting a while until UDI has their framework finished and then I plan to start building various node servers for all my devices e.g Russound, Sonos, Onkyo receivers, media players etc. This will then start putting the ISY at the heart of my automation system. Once the Echo is available outside of the U.S. and I can integrated it daily with the ISY the options are going to be endless. Now all I need is to come up with a High Availability solution for the ISY and the PLM!

Io_guy, If you are going to develope something please make it also compatible with the Dashbox. I use the network output from the Gems to connect to the dash box so it wouldn't be available to a node server. Make sure it can also handle multiple Gems. Thx.

io_guy, If you get a node server created for a GEM put me down for 2. It would be fantastic to get it showing up as a proper node in ISY.

I have audible notification (voice) being output via my sonos speakers. ISY sends commands to an API (hosted on a Raspi) which then controls the speakers. It's possible to even define which of the speakers it uses - anything from all the speakers to just a single one. (I have speakers in every room). With the ability to now use parameters in the network calls it is fairly easy to combine this with NF technologies such that the system knows which room you are currently in and selects the speaker in that room as the output device for any voice alerts. It does mean that you always have to have your phone on your person (or some other device that the NF system can detect e.g there are some systems that use a key fob) so it's not ideal but the best that can be easily achieved today. Peter.

OK, happy to accept that. Unfortunately I can't test as my Insteon kit is located in my Holiday Chalet and not where I live and so its impossible for me to physically push a switch. I have to wait until a guest is staying there and then see what happens - not ideal! I now have to change the If conditions on roughly 70 auto OFF programs - guess that's my evening gone again. BTW I do see (in the admin console) the program being triggered and it having a TRUE state which should have meant it ran through the THEN path. I also see that the time it ran and the time that it ended corresponds to the first wait period. What I can't tell is what physical action was taken at the switch other than through the other program I have for each switch that records when the Switch was turned ON (again using Control rather than Status) and this seems to be showing that it ran at nearly the same time that the AUTO OFF program was started. This may be pure coincidence or it may be showing that the logic is working. What I also see is that when the Auto OFF program has a status of FALSE its end time is almost the same as the start time - meaning that the ELSE path was followed. There just happens to be some guests staying in the chalet since yesterday and that's why I managed to determine something was wrong in that I was not getting the notifications being sent. I hate having to debug in a 'live' environment.

Thanks for all the helpful feedback. Control was used as I only wanted it to respond to a physical action at the switch. This then allows me to turn it on and off in the program without it causing the if condition to re-trigger. Oberkc, I think that "Control is not switched off" will cause the if statement to be processed for any physical action on the switch. It should be TRUE for anything apart from turning the switch off (normally, not Fast OFF). Turning the switch OFF will therefore stop the Wait statement and exit via the ELSE i.e. do nothing. Any other physical action should cause it to start the wait loop from the beginning again. At least that is my understanding having read a large number of the posts and examples in the Forum. Apostolakisl, I think that the "Control is not switched off" is the same as what you have done (but without the status part). It also however covers Fade Down and Fast OFF. As mentioned above I didn't use status as it will cause the IF to be recalculated if you change the status of the device within the program (e.g. where I flash the lights on and off twice). I think your program only works correctly as you are setting the device to the OFF state as the last statement in the program. I may however be totally wrong and have not understood correctly how the ISY logic handles "not Switched Off" - if so I'll take back all my comments above I'll try changing to a "repeat 1" and see what that does. I noticed in the wiki that there was mention of a bug fix in one of the releases for the "Repeat 0" command - but it didn't say what the bug was or what fix was put in place. The wiki also doesn't appear to detail what Repeat 0 does - to me it implies don't repeat the following code i.e. run it only once.

Hi, Can someone check my logic below - I'm not sure if I have this correct and if I should be using a "Repeat 1" or a "Repeat 0" to break the first repeat. What I'm Trying to do is as follows: If the light switch has its state manually changed to anything other than OFF then start a countdown timer. (Then Clause) If the light switch is manually turned OFF then stop the countdown and terminate the auto off (Else clause activated) If the state changes to anything other than OFF while the countdown is running then the countdown restarts. If the countdown reaches the prescribed period without interruption then It should flash the lights OFF and ON twice. It should then wait a further minute (to allow for manual resetting of the switch if someone wants the light to remain on.). If it detects no action then it should switch the light OFF, update my internal counters and notify me. If it detects an action on the switch then it resets and start again from the beginning. I don't seem to be seeing that the part after the Repeat 0 is running. I was assuming that Repeat 0 means do not repeat the section i.e. execute it only once. If Control 'Ground Floor / Living Room / Light Switch (Ceiling)' is not switched Off Then Wait 3 hours and 59 minutes Repeat 2 times Set 'Ground Floor / Living Room / Light Switch (Ceiling)' Fast Off Wait 1 second Set 'Ground Floor / Living Room / Light Switch (Ceiling)' Fast On Wait 1 second Repeat 0 times Wait 1 minute Set 'Ground Floor / Living Room / Light Switch (Ceiling)' Off $i.cnt.LivingroomMainLightOFF += 1 $i.cnt.LivingroomMainLightOFF Init To $i.cnt.LivingroomMainLightOFF Resource 'Pushover_LivingroomMainLightOff' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Thanks for any feedback that you might be able to provide. Peter

Anybody any Ideas? It must be possible as the admin console shows the correct text strings and so does my Mobilinc instance.

Hi, I have just purchased the climate module whilst upgrading to the latest release candidate. I have come across a small problem when trying to include certain climate information into my daily status report emails. For certain climate variables (e.g. cloud condition) inserting the variable into the body of the email only returns me a code (e.g. 5) and not a descriptive text string as expected.(e.g. "cloudy"). What must I do to enable the text to be displayed? thanks peter.

Thanks for the write up. It's given me lots of ideas. It's really great to see what other people are doing. Could you perhaps explain a bit about how you are doing your logging. You mention it's stored on one of your Pi's. Peter.

Hi All, My Insteon system is setup in my Holiday home which I tend not to visit that often. This means that I cannot undertake local maitenance/repair should anything go wrong - and my property manager is not tech savy!. With this in mind I tend to like to create redundant setups wherever possible. As PLM failure could take out my complete automation system I need to build in some sort of redundancy. I was considering adding a second PLM attached to a PC running HouseLink (in addition to my ISY994i) This would, in theory, mittigate some of the risk of PLM design or software issues (as they are two different types of PLM (one USB based the other serial based) and two different control softwares (HL and ISY)). Has anyone any experience of running an environment with multiple PLM's? Are there any downsides (other than the PLM link tables won't match the device link tables as the device will have the second PLM included). I would not envisage ever actually controlling the system from the HL and second PLM unless the primary ISY and PLM failed in some way - however they would be plugged in and running. I would also not need to have the scenes or programmes replicated. Simple manual control would be OK until repairs could be undertaken. The other option is of course to implement the backup system with a second ISY and serial PLM - this would allow me to replicate the programs and scenes fairly easily. If the primary PLM failed I assume there would be a certain degree of performance hit on the setup as each Insteon device would have the PLM address included in its link tables and would try to communicate with something that is no longer there. How could this be delt with? Any thoughts/recommedations?

Something strange happened on my ISY last night at around 02:00... My regularly scheduled programs all stopped running! when entering the program summary section of the admin console I noticed that all the time last started and time last finished entries were empty! The same was true for the scheduled next run time. The only entry that was still in there was the 03:00 entry for the query all process. It was almost as though the ISY had rebooted - but it had not. Could this be something related to the change in DST? I could understand it if some of the programs had stooped due to the time suddenly jumping by 1 hour ( as the test is time last run plus 15 mins) but it doesn't explain why all the time entries were blank in the admin console.

Have you considered the Cao temperature/motion devices? https://www.mytaglist.com/specs.html Not sure how/if it could be integrated with ISY though as you need to get the data from their servers.

Is there somewhere a detailed description on how to interpret all the entries that can appear in the Event Log. Especially interested in understanding the Level 3 output. thanks

Wow - finally I can contribute something to the Forum. I have done just want you are wanting. I shut down all my PCs/Servers when the house goes into "AWAY" mode and then restart them again when I set the house to "HOME" mode. What you need is the Network Resources addin for ISY and a program called "SleepOnLan" (http://www.ireksoftware.com/SleepOnLan). 1) Download and install the program on the Computer(s) that you want to be able to shutdown. 2) Run the program and set the port number that you want it to listen on. 3) The program needs to be always running - this means that you should have it auto-start when the Computer boots. Depending on your setup you may need to have your user account "auto Log-on" (there's a sysinternals tool to enable you to easily do this) so that it runs the program (I don't think it can be installed as a Service). 4) Note down from the programs main screen the form of the command line that you need to send (e.g. http://PC_ip:port/command) and the options that you have. 5) Now go to ISY and create a new network resource for each computer that you want to shutdown (or hibernate, logoff, lock, reboot etc). 5) In the Network Resource Editor window set the following for the protocol information: - http - GET - IP of your Computer - Port that you selected - /Forcepoweroff - or whatever other Action you want to perform 6) Save the settings and you are good to go. Just add the newly created "resource" into your controlling program ( e.g Resource 'PowerDownPC1') and execute that program To get your machines to wake up again you will need to make sure that they have Wake-On-Lan features enabled (usually in the Network Card Settings but sometines ist necessary to configure things in the BIOS. Once enable you can then use the ISY to send out WOL commands - simply create the necessary entries in the Wake On LAN tab of the Networking addin. The command can be sent from an ISY program simply by adding Wake On LAN 'recourceName' I haven't tried this yet on my RaspberryPi (as there is little point in shutting them down as they draw so little power) - however it should be fairly similar to the MS Windows approach.

apostolakisl, Agree that it could be a bad device. What has me worried is that this has happened to so many different devices - where they just keep turning themselves on, or on and off. What would be the best approach to resetting the device? Try air gap first, if that doesn't work power off the circuit, if that doesn't work then a full reset? I need to get something reliable. WAF is nothing compared to trying to keep my Property Manager happy and convince him that automation makes life easier