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Thanks for all the responses. I am specifically avoiding option 1. While I realize it's potentially the easiest (and the reason I disconnected the switch I mentioned from the outlet), doing so with a light fixture is against code. While I agree the safety risk is very near 0, I still like to try and keep my electrical changes up to code. Sounds like a program to handle it is the way to go then. I also like the idea of using a program and custom power on setting. I'll have to think about what that might look like some more.

I'm brewing a plan to replace fix my poor hybrid smart home setup of old Insteon that works reliably and crappy Phillips Hue bulbs and switches. But I want to keep the Hue bulbs. It's mostly Phillips' unreliable switches that drive me nuts... Anyhow, is it possible to program an 8-button KPL such that button "A" (for mains) is in "toggle-on" mode, and never actually cuts the power to the physical light fixture it's controlling? I tested this out with my only currently installed KPL, and sure enough, it prevents me from making the button appear off. But I can't tell what it's doing to the line power because the switch previously controlled an outlet, and I pulled the wire on it so the KPL doesn't actually control the outlet. If that's not the case, any other ideas from folks? I want to put a KPL on a ceiling fixture and have buttons control the Hue bulbs via the network module (tested this out, it's working pretty well), however, I want the ceiling fixture to always be powered on so the KPL issues commands directly to the Hue bulbs to turn on/off etc. For this to work, I need button "A" to not be able to actually turn off the line power to the fixture. Thanks

Nope!

So far, just scenes. I just got the ISY this week and I'm migrating away from the cruddy Insteon Hub.

It is an 8-button KPL (2334-2) v.43. Button B is my "I'm Home!" scene controller which turns on most lights. It is set to non-toggle on. When I press it, everything turns on, the button blinks, and then the other buttons on the KPL which are responders turn on to reflect their status. Button H is my "Sleep" scene controller which turns off most lights. It is also set to non-toggle on. When I press it, everything turns off and the button does not blink, but stays on the entire time. Seems really strange to me. I also have an "Away" scene controller (button G) which is similar to sleep but turns off everything in my condo. It behaves exactly as I described for button H.

I apologize if this is well-documented and/or discussed, but I haven't had much success in finding any definitive answers or people reporting the same problem. What is the expected behavior of a KPL button in non-toggle on mode? Is it expected to blink/flash a couple times before ultimately remaining on? I ask because... I have inconsistent behavior with another button on the same KPL! The other button controls a different scene with similar settings and also uses non toggle on mode. It remains on all the time and when pressed does not blink at all. I just migrated to the ISY from the Insteon Hub where I had similar scenes setup and the buttons never blinked when set to always on. Does anyone know what's going on? Thanks!