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I think i have it working. Here is what i did: -Made a backup in the admin console. -Unplugged both the ISY and the old PLM -Plugged new EISY into network. Admin console saw it. Did the 'upgrade packages" thing. -Restored from the saved file. Then i saw all my devices in the console. -Plugged in the new PLM and then clicked Restore PLM in the admin console. -All my insteon devices beeped as they relinked to the new PLM i guess. All seems to be working although i lost Alexa spoken commands. Not that big a deal. The admin console locked up a few times, so i rebooted and restarted a few times.

I basically am upgrading my system hardware from a working set up currently using a 2412S PLM and an ISY. Essentially swapping the above out with a new EISY and a new 2413U USB. I’ve read the wiki and many forum posts, but they are a little confusing. In the wiki for restoring the PLM it says I need to connect my new PLM to the old PLM? I don’t think I have the cable to do that, so is that completely necessary? Any other short description tips on how to go about this upgrade? Sidenote. I did an admin console restore from a saved backup file and that seemed to work as I see all Devices. And now I am restoring the PLM, which might be working because I hear my house full of Insteon devices beeping in sequence. Perhaps they are all reconnecting to the new PLM as expected?

It’s a v2.8 that I have. Pic attached. I see one of my first posts on this forum is circa 2007. So it’s a pretty old PLM!

Okay so for now, the new EISY I just bought is a paperweight until the backordered PLM comes out. i will wait on the 2413 to be released then. Thanks.

Long time Insteon and ISY user. I finally pulled the trigger and bought the EISY to upgrade from my (totally working) ISY setup. Mostly to get some newer i3 outlets to work better. Currently running the latest firmware 5.3.4 on the ISY and its connected to an (old) Insteon Power Line Modem #2412S. Again, everyting is working for the most part. 50+ insteon devices and programs and portals. I realize now I might have also been required to order the Serial PLM kit with the EISY to work with the 2412S? So, should i order that now? Or should I pull the trigger on getting a new PLM since i am upgrading things in general? Interested in your advice. Thanks.

OK, I figured it out. At some point I set a static IP. I changed that to DHCP and reboot it. Everything‘s good thank you.

Thanks for the replies. I know this is pretty much a network reconfiguration issue. I Recently Added an Orby mesh network in my home. If I keep the ISY plugged into my modem directly, everything works and I can see the admin console. However, if I plug the ISY Into my primary network that is after the Orbi, I lose the ability to access the admin console or to see the ISY through the portal. I have a recent backup from the admin console that I can restore if and when I can figure out how to access the admin console with the ISY installed thru the mesh.

Looking for some help. A couple switches needed replacing and now I’m trying to update my programs in admin. My isy99i seems to be working fine since I can use the portal and the mobile app to control my lights. However, I cannot seem to see or login to the local admin console. I can ping my local IP for the ISY and it replies. If I try accessing the admin console from the Internet, it does not seem to accept my credentials. when I use the local Start Java applet it does not see the ISY. I’ve tried resetting the password, but I still did not see the ISY. Any advice?

Finally got around to purchasing some I3 outlets from the insteon shop to replace some old insteon outlets that failed. I added the new outlet to my admin console (ISY 5.3.4) and it seems to only control the top outlet. Is that to be expected or is there a way i can also control the bottom outlet independently too using the admin console?

i actually have two of those also. They do work well for me. They are also unavailable to purchase anywhere unfortunately.

Definitely the outlet itself as i swapped with a working one to test. I see some moisture in the outlet case. Now, to find a replacement Insteon On/Off outlet somehow....

I think the issue is even when nothing is plugged in. Its an off-shoot branch circuit off the detached garage. I suspect something in the garage is creating interference noise possibly.

Thanks for the reply Bill. You know, the issue i am having is that the outlet might just be having communication issues. Its located in the backyard pretty far from the house. (Although another outlet is also out there and has no issues). The issue with the outlet is although the ISY sends ON/Off signals, they are not actually received. ISY will show the status changing but it doesnt actually change and if i query the outlet, it reverts shows it in the previous status. If querying works at all as sometimes i get the red exclamation point. In other words, its like its just not receiving ISY commands. Its not a very old Outlet and all other aspects of it seem to work fine. I have full manual control at the outlet. etc. I suppose i can try installing the outlet in an inside box and see if it works more reliably...

I see that the OutletLinc dimmer is available. If i only ISY program it to turn things on to 100%, could i use that to control a low voltage transformer? Or is that too risky?

I've been enjoying a (mostly) stable house of Insteon for the last few years. Yes i go way back to the early days. I didnt realize Inston might be back?!? Thats great news. No more blood bath bidding on eBay? I am out of the loop and not even sure what Polisy is. I have an ISY 994i 1024 IR currently. How would i add a Z-wave functionality? The issue: I have two Insteon ON/OFF outlets that control landscape lighting transformers. They've been working great for years. I need to replace one of the outlets that died.

I have a houseload of Insteon devices. Including a few insteon On/Off Outlets. One of the outlets is dead so i was looking for a replacement on eBay. But of course they are hard to come by, overpriced and used. Then i realized there might be an alternative that would work. Can i simply purchase something like the Leviton ZW15R-1BW and use my ISY to control that the same way it does all my insteon devices? Do I need any other sort of hub to make it work? Or is there another remote control Outlet that is recommended? Thanks in advance.

I think you are correct about the i/oLinc. I am still considering how to set this up. I could also swap out the i/olinc with an Ecobee which i use in the rest my house. But i would prefer to have the heater function ON/OFF instead of using the thermostat function of the Ecobee. I sort of want it to work like a bathroom fan timer (but with remote control ability).

Got everything wired up and so far so good! Thanks for the tips. The ioLinc is controlling the Aube which is turning the electric heater on and off. Now i can try use the ISY to create a program to operate the iOLinc. Specifically, i want the heater to automatically turn itself off after a period of time. My concern is that i forget i turned it on and it runs for days before i notice and has a huge electric bill. So, i am thinking of a program that just sends an OFF command to the iOlinc every 2-4 hours or so? Right now you enter the garage and click the little 'set' button on the ioLink to turn the heater on (or tell Alexa to turn it on). So then the ISY program would turn it off on some repeating cycle. And if i am in there and still want the heater on, i just click the ioLinc again. At least thats my idea....I also have an extra motionlinc so i suppose the OFF program could delay itself if it has senses motion? Seems like a few ways to skin this cat....

Thank you. That makes sense (in print at least). I shall see how it goes in practice! Cheers.

It is a Farenheat Electric one. I bought the Aube thing since its a low voltage to 240 contactor (? might be getting terms confused). I believe i can simply wire the Aube direct to the i/o Linc (or an Ecobee for example). Basically the I/O link triggers the Aube which then turns on the heater.

Makes sense. May i ask what type of thermostat you suggest? Do you mean any old one like this? https://www.homedepot.com/p/Honeywell-Home-Horizontal-Non-Programmable-Thermostat-with-Digital-Backlit-Display-RTH111B/203539510

I like this thinking. I understand most thermostats will kick on and start at a set base temp. However, i do not want this heater going on unless i tell it to go on. There will be many below freezing days that i do not want it to turn on. So i am not sure a thermostat can do that for me?

So now i am waffling between connecting the AUBE to an Ecobee thermstat or connecting the Aube to an Insteon ioLinc. My goal is to create a way that i can turn on the electric heater in the garage when i want to work in there (we currently use Alexa to control our insteon devices which is wonderful...so, saying something like "Alexa turn on the garage heater for an hour"). But i want to make it where the heater will always 'timeout' and turn itself off in case i forget to turn it off. Almost like putting it on a timer switch. Basically if I or my wife forget to turn it off, i don't want it running endlessly and driving up huge electric bills. So i suppose if i use the ioLinc then i can create a program in the ISY to check if its on every hour and if so then turn it off? Or something like that? But then there would be no thermostat. Which might be okay. Thoughts?

Thanks both. Will monkey with this shortly when the heater gets installed. Running the wiring to start.

I will trying to install the Aube that you suggested on the Farenheat Electric Garage heater . I also like the idea of using the IOlink. I currently have one on the garage door opener that works well. Can you provide any tips/tricks/directions for wiring the Aube - Heater - IO Linc? Seems like a winner.