I'm giving up on my ISY. I can't see paying $49 every 2 years and deal with skills within Echo. I don't like skills in Echo either. You have to use exact wording every time. Native hubs you can get close to the original, verbal command and it still works. Just set up my Insteon brand hub along with a Smartthings hub to power my zwave door locks(5). Works great and no re-occurring fees.