GuitarMan86

Agreed.... the 3 way and 4 way scenarios were/are a PITA. The on/off single switches are certainly easier. I had a set of Wiggys for testing which worked out fine...but I would rather have the pen tester (like Fluke) to make things easier with one touch.

Nope...that's what I mean. I am just getting started. Just created a seen for watching movies and setting ramp rate and dim etc. Cool stuff.....going to be addicting

I figured it out.... was to much of a load. Ok, all 10 dimmer switches installed and working correctly. Now to get to the controlling part! haha.....thank you all for you assistance. Once I figured out what I was doing wrong on the first set it seemed to get better from there

Received....thanks. I did notice that when testing. I am at the point where I have all locations done and wired correctly and connected to work accordingly. I am down to one 4 way switch which I have working correctly....however, one of the switches is quite warm/hot to the touch compared to the other two switches.

Figured it out.... had a couple of the neutrals mis-matched and therefore not lighting up the switch in this above scenario. Got the rest done except for one that I am diagnosing. It seems the power being routed to this one is also taking away power to the switch when the switch is turned off.....never turns back on. WIRES EVERYWHERE haha..... fun

Gave it another shot..... no luck. I am not getting power to either of the switches wired as mentioned above (believe I did it this way initially). Here is what it looks like just to show the match up with Box1 and Box2.

I believe I did just that as you describe.....I will try again to see if I am missing something. Will report back. Thank!

Understood....I have enough 2477d switches to cover the downstairs scenario. The red/white/black shown on switch one: red and white are part of the 3 wire going to box 2. The black wire from the 3 wire is being tied to 3 other black wires as the hot before it goes to box 2. The black wire tied to the switch in box 1 is going to the black and white pair for the light. The 3 wires tied to box 2 are all going night back to box 1. The only wire not pictured is the black which I mentioned above is tied to 3 other black wires as the load it seems.

Thanks for the replies..... here is a little more information to picture what was wired previously. I took a picture of Box 1 wiring and Box 2 wiring. Box 1 is the pic that has the 'black box' 3 way switch and box two has the paddle switch. Black wire on Box 1 pic (not shown) is tied to black wires to the right and feeds the black wire going to box 2. Black wire on Box 2 pic is 'hot' r/w/b from box 2 go back to box 1 and the black is then tied to load feed with 3 other black wires.

Hoping some of you may have some quick thoughts on a wiring dilemma I am running into trying to get a 2477d wired up properly on a 3 way switch that is wired up a little differently than a usually seen method. Summary: I have Box 1 labeled on the left (3 gang box with 2 other 3 way switches). I am working on the 3 way switch on the far left for that box. There are 3 black wires that are the load in this box that are tied together. One of these black wires is tied to the 3 wire going to box 2. So B/R/W (typically the traveler wires are going over to box 2 (pictured) and that Black wire is HOT. Box 2 is also a 3 gang box with a separate 3 way switch and another single switch (single switch is completed)...still have to wire the other 3 way. The 3 wires coming over from box 1 are wired as indicated (white/white, Insteon Red/Black hot, Insteon Black/Red traveler). Back to Box 1 I am trying to figure out what wires need to be tied (I have refered to page 11 in the 2477d manual showing the 3 way diagram). However, I am not able to get either 3 way switch to be powered in this scheme. Any thoughts are much appreciated. Will be posting on the Insteon Smart home groups as well if I don't figure it out soon. Thanks! *On a more positive note! I got my ISY994 and received my Amazon Echo and already have setup my ISY portal to control a Insteon Lamp link module with PLM all set up accordingly! Some progress at least haha

Pulled the trigger tonight on 10 total 2477d switches, a Serial PLM and a lamp module..... The 10 switches is only for downstairs. Uggghhhh..... Got to start somewhere And, also found out my Amazon Echo has shipped. Fun stuff ahead! ....I hope haha

One more question around the Insteon devices here.... One of the switches I wanted to replace (sooner or later) is the master bedroom light/ceiling fan which is a low/med/high fan control with a light dimmer (two circular switches in a one gang switch. Is the Insteon fan controller (sits in the fan housing) my only option here for a single dimmer/switch type of control for this scenario?

So, are these switches consuming a lot now? Am I going to see a huge change for the worse....confused. I thought these would be less costly with control and dimming etc.

I am assuming KPL means the keypad link modules? Strategically located where they can perform additional functionality? Makes sense....additional cost Mapping out my downstairs I came up with 9 Insteon 2477d switches to replace all 3ways.... Wonderful lol

haha....too funny My first project is to take care of my downstairs Theater room (which is also my office). I could use the motion detector in other areas of the home once I get there hah. That is one of the articles I also caught which provoked my topic here

Thanks Teken....that makes sense (looking at the install manual as you responded) having them 'virtually' connected if they are 3 or 4 way switches. Guess I was hoping I wouldn't have to double my switch purchases...ugggh Looks like I will be swapping out many more switches than I thought! heh. I agree with the advice of taking photos and labeling along the way. Makes things much easier later.... Good thing is...I am a musician and learned to do that along the way with all the other gear I have to maintain lol

Hi All, I am getting prepared for the arrival of my ISY994iZw and looking to get some basics down on necessary switches and requirements. I will utilize the ISY for all Insteon lighting (going Insteon for control switches throughout the house). Couple of things I was able to obtain from Insteon on the wiring were that you NEED TO HAVE a 2477d on both ends of the 3-way for control. Just wanted to get some clarity and opinions on wiring because I thought I saw some other posts noting ways around this? As this will now double my cost for controllable dimmer switches throughout the home. I will be using the Insteon PLM (serial version) for ISY control: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002X8W4SI/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=62999609124&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10620109406366997707&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_4vndtz038x_b So, looking at starting in my Theater room I have all recessed lighting with 3-way switches that have a 'dimmer' switch on one end and just a '3-way' switch on the other end. I was speaking to Insteon and they stated that you DO NEED a 2477d on both ends to have control of the switch? I was looking at only wiring the 2477d on one end and leaving the other 3-way intact. Just wanted to make sure I am purchasing what is necessary here? Any thoughts are much appreciated.

The 2GIG GC3 panel offers smart home features for lighting (on off dimmer, scenes) also locks and thermostats. I see nothing stating that it supports only 2gig zwave.

Thanks Teken.... I agree with number one as this is my primary concern around compliance. That being said, I would like to add (if possible) the ISY as a secondary controller (which I believe can be done) so I may incorporate the lighting portions into scenes for arming the system. Is this something that others do here? Where the 2GIG panel has the ability to add a secondary controller (being z-wave I assume), I was hoping to utilize the Insteon lighting to make scenes. Have yet to get this far....but thinking ahead.

Thanks Xathros....good to know. So, I will pick up the 2413s serial PLM to interface to the ISY along with Insteon switches and LED bulbs. Didn't catch that in the link description. Thank you guys

Any preferences to Serial vs USB for the PLM? I see there are two.

Thanks for the quick responses.... 1. Great, figured as much... just checking. 2b. Not LED...just normal bulbs so I assume all ISY compatible based on answer to 2a. I did purchase the ISY zwave model (Amazon: Universal Devices ISY994i ZW/IR PRO Z-Wave | INSTEON | X10 Automation Controller ) http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Devices-ISY994i-ZW-PRO/dp/B00MDVW7HS?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01 So, the portal subscription is $49/2 yrs)? Ok, didn't get that far yet. Good to know. Will investigate the Echo forum section further.

Hi All, My first post so apologies on proper locations for anything I list here......and also for the extensive questions researching as I go. I have ordered a new ISY994iZw and am starting to ramp up on the Wiki and supported documentation (awaiting arrival of the unit). Couple of questions in regards to Insteon as I have not built out my environment yet and am looking to purchase the correct devices. 1. The ISY994 will be the controller for the Insteon devices (no need for the Insteon hub as a middleware/hardware)...correct? 2. I am mapping out the proper switches for Insteon now in my home. a. Are there certain model dimmer switches supported by the ISY? Any recommendations on model numbers that I can look at. Just want to make sure. b. Lightbulb models to stick with? Here is my project: Purchased an Amazon Echo (waiting for arrival) and looking to implement this into the ISY once things get situated. I also have a home Theater room which currently has all my audio/TV components controlled by SimpleControl (works well...but no lighting added yet). Will be looking to implement the ISY into the home audio environment with light control (for starters; Insteon switches and scenes). Several dimmer switches in the Theater room to do. Will point the SimpleControl app to the ISY for lighting here (it does support Insteon as well). Will work the Insteon switches into main areas of the house to follow (living/dining/family/kitchen/hallways/master) using the ISY. Moveable lamps will be bulbs and switches will be mainly dimmer use. I also will use the Echo to trigger commands for a Rachio irrigation system that I have in place (I see that Echo handles this as well so no need to incorporate the ISY here?) Have a 2GIG GC3 security system panel that is NOT wireless (cellular card only) and uses zwave for all sensors and is the primary controller for all security devices. Is there any sense here to incorporate the ISY as a secondary controller to handle the security system devices or leave it as is? It does handle lighting scenes within the unit and I would like to utilize lighting scenes when the system is armed/away. Any thoughts on these multiple subjects (sorry for rambling on ) appreciated. Thanks