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I ended up purchasing the Greenfield ASVCOA Clamp On Actuator which has the same actuator as the inline versions with the same wiring. I wired it based on what was recommended in this post but that did not work out. After searching the greenfield site I came across the wire diagram for a Z-Wave module which is very similar as the Insteon I/O linc. The wiring of the Valve to the Insteon I/O linc was as White valve wire connected to the Insteon N/C Black valve wire connected to the -12V Power Supply Red valve wire connected to the Insteon COM and the +12V Power Supply Orange valve wire connected to the Insteon Sensor (S) Green valve wire connected to the Insteon Ground (GND) Purple valve wire is capped off. I attached the wiring diagram that I drew that worked and also the Greenfield Z-Wave diagram that I used as a reference. I then tested it and it works great. I setup an Insteon scene to activate when the Water Heater Insteon sensor is triggered and it closes the valve alerting me where the leak occurred and that the water main valve is closed. Feel free to ask me any questions.
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I've been doing some research in automatic water shutoff valves and have come across both inline valves and clamp on that clamps to the existing valve. Is one better then the other? The clamp on definitely seems like less work but are there cons with the clamp on then the inline? Inline http://www.discounthomeautomation.com/Greenfield-Automatic-Security-Valve-Kit-GFASV075Z Clamp On http://www.discounthomeautomation.com/GreenField-Clamp-On-Actuator-GFASVCOA?gclid=CJj-54-u484CFYGCaQodAwEGOw
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I'm returning the Elk valve as I don't want to have to solder a relay switch when the Greenfield valve already has this built in. Less chances of things failing. Once I get the Greenfield valve I'll test it out with the above wiring and provide feedback to this post. Thanks!
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Looking at the greenfield wire diagram as I posted earlier, it shows that the white valve wire is a +12V trigger. So this valve wiring behaves a little differently. So from what I am trying to understand the functionality it appears that the white valve wire when powered opens and closes the valve as to having 2 separate wires. I'm still not sure why the green wire which is feedback common need to be connected to ground?
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I would have thought that the valve function is when you connect just a power supply directly to the valve by connecting the +12V to the white wire and the -12V to the black wire the valve would open. And if you connected the +12V to the red wire and the -12V to the black valve wire it would close the valve. Based on that logic I would have thought the valve functionality connected to an Insteon I/O would work as follows: -the White valve wire opens the valve connecting to the N/C -the Red valve wire closes the valve connects to the N/O. -The Power supply +12V would connect to the Insteon Common. -The Power supply -12V would connect to the black wire. -The Orange is used purely for status which would connect to the Insteon Status. - The Purple would be capped off. -The green is feedback for both on/off which I'm not sure is used. For what you are suggesting, why does the the white valve wire connect to both the N/C and the N/O? Attached is the wiring diagram doesn't make sense. By the way thanks for the help. This forum has been a huge help. I want to thank everyone here on responding!
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The orange wire tells the status when the valve is closed. So when it's closed it'll send a 12 V signal to the status input of the I/O indicating the status is on. When it's not closed it will not send a 12 V signal to the Status input indicating that the status input is not on. The purple wire would not be needed then. The Green wire is feedback common. Not sure where this goes. I attached another diagram but this time for the Greenfield Valve
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I was not aware of the Greenfield valve. That already has the actuator relay built in. Here's my question then on that valve: The valve has the following wires: -Red +12V -Black -12V -White + 12V Trigger -Orange Feedback Closed -Green Feedback Common -Purple Feedback Open Then the 12 V DC power Is the wring correct to an Insteon I/O linc -Red wire on the valve connects to the Power 12 VDC +12V Red wire -Black wire on valve connects to the Power 12 VDC -12V Black wire -Orange Feedback Closed wire connects to the Insteon - N/C -Purple Feedback Open wire connects to the Insteon - N/O -Green Wire connects to the Insteon Status -White connects to the COM ??? <--- This I do not know The 12 V DC +12V connects to the Red wire on the valve as discussed above The 12 V DC -12V connects to both the Black wire on the valve and the Insteon - GND.
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I have a relay switch with small pins on it. My question is do I solder the wire onto the relay switch pins or do I crimp the wire and pin together, or is here some other way to connect the wires together. What I'm looking at is the most reliable method with least chance to falling apart and providing the best connectivity.
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Maybe third try is a charm! Here's an updated diagram. I'll post this on the youtube video as a response once I confirm this is correct and then POC this out.
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So I drew up what you suggested. Where I'm not following you is the dry relay contacts of the relay, one is connected to the sensor which I get but the other is connected to the common inputs? Is the common inputs the COM of the Insteon I/O linc which is also connected to the +12 Volt from the power supply. Attached is the diagram.
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I am trying to figure out how to wire an Elk water shutoff valve to an Insteon I/O linc. The Elk valve has 4 wires (black, red, white, and green). The 12 Volt DC is also used to power the valve. Now without a relay switch the Insteon I/O linc always shows on. I use a relay switch from Radio Shack (OMR-C-112H) which actuates the position indicator because when the valve is closed it puts a 12 volt output on the green. For the Elk valve: - Red (valve closed) is connected to the I/O Linc NC (normally closed) - White (valve open) is connected to the I/O Linc NO (normally open) - Black is the common connected to the I/O Linc COM The green wire is where I get confused when connecting to the relay and the 12 Volt DC. The green wire from the Elk valve is connected to one side of the relay coil. The other I am unsure. It's stated that this should be grounded. Does that mean the other side of the coil is connected to the 12VDC Ground? The relay switched wires (COM and N.O) are connected to the IO linc sensor input (S) and GND. My last question is where does the 12 Volt DC positive and negative wires connect to? There's a youtube link that shows the hookup but I am unable to find the wiring diagram. I have attached an incomplete diagram (blue in the picture depicts the white wire).