mikewu99

D'oh. Thanks

Long time ISY user here, haven't changed anything on my ISY 994i 1024 IR in a few years (it just works). Wanted to try integrating a new Bond Bridge. I was at version 4.9 something, figured I should upgrade to 5.3.4. Backed up, performed the upgrade, cleared Java cache. Now my User ID and Password do not work. Any ideas?

FWIW here is SmartHome's answer when I asked about PLM availability:

It never made sense to me that SmartHome did not support UD/ISY. At my main house I have 37 SwitchLincs (dimmers and switches), 6 KeypadLincs, 3 FanLincs, and 7 Micro On/Offs. I also had six Insteon thermostats until a complete HVAC replacement forced me to dump them. Plus 7-8 plug-in modules that I use for decorative/holiday lighting. No way I could manage that many devices without my ISY. That's a lot of $ in SmartHome's pockets (not counting the Insteon and X-10 stuff I bought from them and left at the previous house). Plus they sell an $80 PLM with every ISY - that's what they are selling their Insteon Hub for. In other words, they make the same revenue from an ISY sale as they do from a Hub sale (and probably a higher margin). Insane. That said, if for some reason my ISYs (I just bought my fourth ISY for a vacation home) lose the ability to work with Insteon (due to dying PLMs or whatever) I have too much invested in Insteon to switch over to Z-Wave. I don't fiddle too much with the ISY at home much, I've had the programs I need running for years. It's an appliance and it just works.

I have an email from Smarthome customer support also saying that they were being discontinued due to "low sales". I also notice that the 2413S PLM is showing as "Sold Out", fortunately I was able to get one of two that were left on Amazon to go with the ISY I just ordered. If Smarthome discontinues the PLM, where will that leave UD ans the ISY?

I did notice while browsing that colors other than white also seem to be unavailable. Maybe also part of the thinning out. I could use a SwitchLinc On/Off with the frame and rocker removed, stuck in a junction box with a blank cover plate. Much less elegant solution, and a bit more work.

This really, really stinks. I went to buy three Micro On/Off switches for some under counter lighting and not available. My plan was to put a micro switch inside each under counter light fixture and use an Insteon wall on/off strictly as a controller of the micro switches. I've done this at another house and it works great. I will look at the Z-Wave Aeotec Nano, although it look substantially larger than the Insteon Micro. Is the a Z-Wave equivalent to the Insteon wall switch that can be used simply as a controller for the Nanos? This might be the start of my migration away from Insteon, although I have several dozen Insteon devices in use.

I have a bunch of warm glow BR30s in recessed lights. I just checked using MobiLinc and they definitely turn on at 10% (the finest resolution I can get through MobiLinc) and seem to increase smoothly in brightness as I step up 20%, 30%, etc. I really chose these bulbs because their light gets warmer as they dim. I find the unchanging color temperature of all other dimmable LEDs creepy at low light levels. The superior dimming performance is just a bonus. I bought them in packs of six from Amazon for a little less than $6 per bulb. Also, not all Philips bulbs are warm glow - they will be specifically identified as such. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

(1) I though an 8 button KPL also has two buttons which control the load (one ON and one OFF). Why are there eight scenes available and not seven? (2) In a 6 button KPL what is the effect of setting the toggle mode of the ON/OFF switch to Non-Toggle On? Does that make only the ON button functional? (3) The scenes I am controlling are all collections of thermostat settings. I would only be turning one of the scenes on, there is really no situation where I would turn a scene off. What happens when you turn off a scene which only contains thermostats?

Thanks for the reply. It is not clear from any documentation that the KPL could have 5 scenes in 6-button mode and 8 scenes in 8 button mode - that is just counterintuitive. Unfortunately right now I am remotely programming a KPL at a vacation home, so I am stuck for the time being since switching to 8 button mode required manual intervention...

I have a 6 button KPL that I am using as a controller only (no load). I would like each of the six buttons to be used independently as scene controllers. However, when I add the KPL to the ISY I only get five devices(one for the KPL and one for each of buttons A, B, C, and D). Is it possible to use the ON button to control one scene and the OFF button to control another? There would need to be six devices added to the ISY to make this work, not five. I can't find anything in the wiki or in the SH manual. Am I missing something basic here?

Still seems to me all you are looking for is a page in the web interface which contains a combination of devices and scenes, preferably only those devices and scenes which you select. You should be able to do this yourself with some hacking of the html code from the default web interface. I made a custom home page which contains a subset of my scenes - basically I took the source html from the "scenes" page (generated by the isy), edited out the parts I didn't want, changed some text, and saved the resulting html to the /USER/WEB directory of the isy. You should be able to do something similar by cutting and pasting from both the "scenes: source and the "devices" source. More elegant solutions are possible using the REST interface, but my html skills are quite limited...

I think the OP is discussing the default web interface. With the default interface "Devices" is one sub-window and "Scenes" is a different sub-window. He would like to have his devices and his N-way scenes in the same sub-window. The solution would be for him to modify the web interface to suit his preferences. Of course, I could be completely misunderstanding the OP.

Then why does the web interface have the buttons to control them directly???? If I try to control the buttons from a scene, the mutually exclusive feature seems not to work - I have a scene which turns one of the buttons on, but the other button which was previously on does not turn off (at least the web interface show the button still on, the actual KPL is 120 miles away right now)...do I need to add all four buttons as responders to the scene?

I am having some difficulty activating buttons on a (6-button) KPL from the web interface (not the administrative console) using the "action buttons" on the "Devices" page . (1) The main on/off works fine. (2) The four secondary buttons do not work - if I hit any of the action buttons (on or off) for any of the secondary buttons I get a dead link ("Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage"). (3) The four secondary buttons are set up as mutually exclusive. (4) I use the main on/off and each of the secondary buttons to trigger programs which change settings on multiple thermostats. The main on/off action buttons trigger the appropriate programs correctly but the secondary action buttons don't. (5) Physically pressing the buttons on the KPL does trigger the programs correctly. I am trying to replicate button presses on the KPL remotely. (6) I am running firmware version 2.7.15. Is this a bug, an unsupported feature, or something I have set up wrong?[/i]

From the email I received (presumably for those of us who purchased more than 90 days ago) if you buy a new adapter (for $100) you can send in the old one for an $80 credit (which must be used within 180 days) - essentially a $20 upgrade if you were planning to buy more Smarthome stuff...

I have Java 1.6.0_14-b08 installed. The ISY is at a remote location. Normally from home I access via VPN (I have a tunnel between my home network and the remote network via VPN routers) and so have no security warnings. If I go through the internet the sequence is: (1) Direct browser to https://xxx.gotdns.com (2) Get a cert warning, proceed anyway (3) Get the login window (4) Log in, opens HTML interface (5) Hit "Administrative Console" (6) Get another cert warning, proceed anyway (7) Get the second login window ( Get the administrative console with a warning about a security risk with no cert (9) Good to go From work (1) through (5) are the same, but (6) Administrative console window opens, but with blank panels as previously described - no cert warning, no login window

Update: I only get the blank console when I access from work. When I access from home (via internet) I get certificate warnings but I can open the console. Possible firewall problem at work?

I have configured one of my ISY99s for internet access. I can connect to the ISY remotely and the HTML interface seems to be working correctly. However, when I open the administrative console I get the proper window (menus and tabs as expected) but it does not seem to be connected to the ISY - all screens (Main, program Summary, etc.) under the tabs are blank and Help->About just returns the copyright notice. What am I doing wrong? I am running Java 1.6.0_14-b08 and have cleared the cache.

Reliability. Using programs requires the thermostats, the KPL, the ISY, and the modem to all be functioning correctly to use the KPL to control the thermostats. Using scenes only the KPL and the thermostats need to be working. The other issue is convenience. If I understand the other thermostat threads correctly, if I want to change both the heat and cool setpoints in auto mode I would need to go to cool mode, set the cool setpoint, go to heat mode, set the heat setpoint, then go back to auto mode (or is that just for querying the setpoints?). If I use scenes I just activate the scene corresponding to the conditions I want to set. Anyway, if you count votes I add +2 for the improved thermostat support (since I now own two ISYs I get two votes )...

Hopefully this is on the to-do list? I can't be the first to request this...at least with the ISY (as opposed to the SmartLinc) I'll be able to do a field upgrade when this feature becomes available... I can't even use the manual procedure (set setpoints and mode on the thermostat, press the button on the Venstar Insteon adapter) to link a particular thermostat setting to a scene that the ISY is part of? According to the adapter documentation I can link sets of thermostat settings to buttons on the KPL. Until I can program the scene through the ISY I guess I could manually set up my configurations and link to the KPL independent of the ISY and use the ISY to override the scene setting (and query the thermostat) when necessary. Basically there would be links between the thermostats and the KPL that the ISY is unaware of... Can the ISY control the KPL to emulate button presses on the KPL? That way the ISY controls the KPL which initiates the appropriate thermostat scene...

Searched through the archives - found lots of useful information but not the answer to my question: I just bought a second ISY99 for our vacation home, initially to be able to control and monitor the temperature remotely. I had purchsed two Venstar thermostats, Insteon adapters, access point, and a SmartLinc to do the job. Turns out the SmartLinc can't query the thermostat temperature despite the information I found on a Smarthome wiki page (the wiki page was changed to indicate that is was advance information on a future product only after I had ordered it). I bought an ISY99 to replace the SmartLinc and will be setting things up this weekend. I also purchased a tabletop KPL to be able to control the thermostat settings manually. I want to set up a number of scenes corresponding to various thermostat settings (Home, Away, Heat only, Cool only, Off). I want to be able to control the scenes either from the tabletop KPL or from the ISY. My question regards setting up scenes including thermostats from within the ISY. For example, with dimmers I can set the dimmer parameters (on level, ramp rate) for a scene from the ISY GUI. Can I do the same for the thermostat - set heating/cooling setpoints and operating mode for a given scene from the ISY GUI? Ideally I would like to add the devices (two thermostats and KPL) to the ISY by typing in the Insteon addresses and set everything up through the ISY GUI - no running around the house pressing buttons... I know I can write programs to control the themostat from the ISY (and will write programs to periodically query the thermostats) but I think controlling a finite set of operating configurations is more robust if I use scenes. Hope this makes sense...

I concur with all the observations in MikeB's post, except that for me rebooting the PC does not seem to help. Possibly related to the cable modem? My modem is Motorola SB4100: Software Version: SB4100-1.4.9.0-SCM00-NOSH Hardware Version: 0 MIB Version: II GUI Version: 1.0 VxWorks Version: 5.3

Did a little experimenting this morning, here are results in no coherent order: (1) The problem may be when I try to reach the forum - I was able to poke around the main website and the wiki, but shortly after opening the forum all universal-devices.com becomes unreachable via web browser. I haven't tried this often enough to be scientific, but it seems like the forum webpage triggers the oroblem. (2) When universal-devices.com is unreachable via IE it still responds to ping from a command prompt, so it is not likely a DNS error. (3) I downloaded Firefox. If the universal-devices.com is in the unreachable state it is also unreachable from Firefox. However, I haven't been able to go into the unreachable state from Firefox, just from IE. (4) The only way to reach universal-devices.com after it enters the unreachable state is to wait. Rebooting the PC does not help. I haven't studied the wait time, but rlav's estimate of 10 minutes seems about right. (5) I also tried rebooting my router - didn't help. Could this be a Comcast problem? I guess for now I will try Firefox to access universal-devices.com. I probably won't get a chance to try anything more for at least a week as I am going out of town.