Query All program

[djones1415]

Is this program supposed to do something? Does the entry mean something's missing from my system?

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h23hxgs5bn1xy ... %20All.PNG

 

I had occasion to notice that an outlet that should always remain on had actually gone off, but the ISY didn't notify me. The Admin Console in fact said it was ON until I queried the device - then it showed off. I assumed this 3:00 AM 'factory query program' would have triggered the status change, which makes me think the query program isn't running.

 

Before I write a manual daily query program for this outlet, just thought I'd check on what this 'factory query program' is supposed to do. I don't see anything in the wiki about "Query All".

 

Thanks

[LeeG]

Look under the Main tab, below Network, it will either be My Lighting or ISY Lighting (from memory). Mine is labeled My Lighting but I think I renamed it many ISY images ago when it was changed to ISY Lighting, maybe when the 994i was first released. The QueryAll should be using whatever is below Network.

[LeeG]

Is the OutletLinc a Relay or Dimmer?

 

Only the Dimmer has Controller function. That is, it should notify the ISY if turned Off locally. The Relay version does not have Controller capability and as such does not notify the ISY if turned Off locally.

[djones1415]

Look under the Main tab, below Network, it will either be My Lighting or ISY Lighting (from memory). Mine is labeled My Lighting but I think I renamed it many ISY images ago when it was changed to ISY Lighting, maybe when the 994i was first released. The QueryAll should be using whatever is below Network.

Mine is labelled simply "ISY". Are you saying that the THEN section in my Query All program should say "Set ISY Query" instead of what is says now "Set Query"? If so, how do I change it to do so? The drop down box in the Action block of the Program Details screen does not list "ISY" as an option; it lists only every device in my system.

 

Is the OutletLinc a Relay or Dimmer?

 

Only the Dimmer has Controller function. That is, it should notify the ISY if turned Off locally. The Relay version does not have Controller capability and as such does not notify the ISY if turned Off locally.

It is an OutletLinc Relay. Are you saying that the ISY can't pick up a status change of an Outlet Linc relay?

 

My program checks

"IF

STATUS outlet IS OFF

THEN

SEND NOTIFICATION TO phone."

 

The ISY showed the outlet was ON until I queried it. Then it changed to OFF. I was able to turn it back on with the ISY, but I have no idea why it went off to begin with. It just has a washing machine plugged in to it.

[LeeG]

The Action | Insteon | Set pulldown does not show any Scene or does not list ISY as a Scene?

 

If the OutletLinc Relay is turned Off locally, by OutletLinc button, by load sense; the ISY will not be aware of that change as the OutletLinc Relay has no Controller capability. Devices that are Responder Only can usually be identified by looking at the device User Guide. The User Guide will not have instructions for linking the device (OutletLinc Relay in this case) as a Controller of a Scene when it is a Responder Only.

 

If the OutletLinc is controlled by an ISY Program, ISY Scene or the Admin Console the ISY should be aware of the OutletLinc Relay status.

[djones1415]

The Action | Insteon | Set pulldown does not show any Scene or does not list ISY as a Scene?

Yes it does...I missed it. I'll change the Query All program to query that scene. Thanks.

 

If the OutletLinc Relay is turned Off locally, by OutletLinc button, by load sense; the ISY will not be aware of that change as the OutletLinc Relay has no Controller capability. Devices that are Responder Only can usually be identified by looking at the device User Guide. The User Guide will not have instructions for linking the device (OutletLinc Relay in this case) as a Controller of a Scene when it is a Responder Only.

 

If the OutletLinc is controlled by an ISY Program, ISY Scene or the Admin Console the ISY should be aware of the OutletLinc Relay status.

Yes, I see that it's a responder only. Will the program-initiated Query to the outlet make the ISY aware of the outlet's proper status? In other words, if the outlet again goes off somehow, will the Query All force the STATUS to OFF and thus trigger a notification that is programed to go out when the status changes to off?

[LeeG]

A Query of the OutletLinc Relay, either with the QueryAll Program at 3 AM, a User Program or through the Admin Console will set the OutletLinc node to the current state of the device. If the state changes as a result of the Query, a Program with If Status will be triggered.

 

It sounds like load sense may be On in the OutletLinc such that when the washer turns Off load sense sees the washer Off and turns the OutletLinc Off. There is a procedure in the OutletLinc User Guide for turning the load sense Off. If it is load sense there is no need to turn the OutletLinc back On. Load sense will turn the OutletLinc back On when the washer turns On.

[djones1415]

A Query of the OutletLinc Relay, either with the QueryAll Program at 3 AM, a User Program or through the Admin Console will set the OutletLinc node to the current state of the device. If the state changes as a result of the Query, a Program with If Status will be triggered.

 

It sounds like load sense may be On in the OutletLinc such that when the washer turns Off load sense sees the washer Off and turns the OutletLinc Off. There is a procedure in the OutletLinc User Guide for turning the load sense Off. If it is load sense there is no need to turn the OutletLinc back On. Load sense will turn the OutletLinc back On when the washer turns On.

Thanks, Lee. The outlet has been on for months, just randomly went off for some reason. Anyway...the Query All should check if that ever happens again.