inputs to isy iolinc or ezio2x4 or something else

[unispeed]

Just wondering opinions on which is the most robust device for switched inputs to isy99 I purchased the ezio2x4 installed it and can turn the relay outs off and on I but can only get input status changes updated if I "query it" Just wondered if the iolinc is more robust? if I just need a single input? I don't have the serial cable and other equip for ezio I am running 2412s PLM with v3.1 and isy991 with 3.3.10 and 4.05 ui I am a old newbie who has got lost in the ezio post in chasing unlinks and the like mishaps...

brief pros and cons of each or other options please

I need it for a domestic hot water heater temp switch to turn a circ pump on KIndor of important but not nuke grade just cold shower grade!

thanks

mark

[oberkc]

I use an IOLinc, but have no EZIO-anything, so have no first-hand experience which could indicate one being better than another. I can say that my IOLinc seems to communicate pretty consistently, and that I recall reading no posts around here to suggest speculation that the IOLinc is more robust than one of the EZIO-series modules.

 

One thing that strikes me as strange is having "isy991 with 3.3.10 and 4.05 ui ". Do you have an ISY-99 or -994 (I am not familiar with a -991). If -994, my temptation would be to update to latest software, in the hopes that this would solve your problem.

[unispeed]

Sorry the confusion

it is a isy99i running 3.3.10 ui ud994 v.4.0.5

thanks

[oberkc]

I also suspect that sending an insteon command from the ISY is more tolerant of local interference than listening for a status message from a remote device. Given this, do you have other insteon devices? Does the ISY have any trouble hearing from them? Is it possible that you have some devices on the same circuit as the PLM which might be obscuring the status messages?

[unispeed]

the plm is about 1ft for my main breaker box and the ezio is on a branch circuit about 50ft away about 3 repeaters through my house...

the EZIO2x4 works flawless and fast for turning the relays on but I have to query to get the input status (I wired the input through the relay1 to simulate the status change) I read you have to run the exio's little app to configure reporting of the input and a other stuff I looked at the diagnostics recommended in the forum still got to figure out what all the messages mean hence my question I was just just looking for a plug and play like a keypad or something....... I might be asking for the impossible but that's why I am asking... (I just wanted to drop it in and program my ISY99i to use it...... Like a newbie would want...

looking for the easy way out

PS STGE 2 if any developers that want to help write/develop a MODBUS interface I have the MODBUS team ready then we could have a universal PLC interface for those more stringent applications' pm me mark@pteinc.com

 

thanks.

Mark

[oberkc]

I read you have to run the exio's little app to configure reporting of the input and a other stuff

 

I had no idea. This is not the case with the IOLinc. Plug it in. Add it to the ISY. Go.

 

I guess I would consider this an advantage.

[unispeed]

that's what I figured

just ordered one

and I will look deeper into the ezio2x4 on a rainy day or season

I know it works...... but not quit plug in play

maybe I will do so comparisons for the forum to review since I will have both!

just wondered if anyone has done that as of yet

thanks

[LeeG]

unispeed

 

I have 2 EZIO2X4s in the garage where the Inputs monitor two garage doors at four locations (fully closed and fully open on both doors) as well as the control the garage door opener. Working on a 99i with 3.3.10 and various earlier ISY releases over several years.

 

Have several EZIO2X4s in a test bed with an ISY at 4.0.5.

 

They all report Input state changes without a Query.

 

Several product variations have been shipped by Simplehomenet/Smartenit over the years so it is difficult to say why your Inputs are not showing state changes. The analysis can be time consuming and complex but the why can be determined if you want to spend the time.

[bsobel]

Just wondering opinions on which is the most robust device for switched inputs to isy99 I purchased the ezio2x4 installed it and can turn the relay outs off and on I but can only get input status changes updated if I "query it" Just wondered if the iolinc is more robust? if I just need a single input? I don't have the serial cable and other equip for ezio I am running 2412s PLM with v3.1 and isy991 with 3.3.10 and 4.05 ui I am a old newbie who has got lost in the ezio post in chasing unlinks and the like mishaps...

brief pros and cons of each or other options please

I need it for a domestic hot water heater temp switch to turn a circ pump on KIndor of important but not nuke grade just cold shower grade!

thanks

mark

 

Try restoring the device. Mine seemed to lose its' PLM link before and restoring it fixed it.

Bill

[unispeed]

restored it twice

still acts the same

I have input 1 control a light

so when I make input 1 on nothing happens

when I query the exio the input 1 status come back as on and my linked light turn on

remember I have not ran ran/programmed the exio with the serial cable and their little app that I read others talk about...

 

thanks

FYI here is a even view when I query the exio

then the 2nd pic is when I change the relay state1 which also changes input state1

 

the pics posted are in reverse order I changes the state 1st then queried it

[oberkc]

I have input 1 control a light

 

If the EZIO is similar to the IOLinc in this regard, "Inputs" cannot control anything. Only the relay outputs can.

[LeeG]

Communication with the EZIO2X4 is excellent.

 

Since a Restore Device did not resolve it could be the location of the link records in the EZIO2X4, other configuration information established when the EZIO2X4 was added to the ISY has gotten scrambled, level of firmware in the internal PLM in the EZIO2X4, the PLM link database is full, maybe some other things that have surfaced along the way that I do not immediately remember.

 

The EZIO2X4 does not need anything updated by the Simplehomenet Utility Suite for the Inputs to report state changes to the ISY.

 

How long ago was the EZIO2X4 purchased and from what company?

 

Does the EZIO2X4 have a passthru outlet on the front of the device?

 

Is the EZIO2X4 added to the 99i at 3.3.10 or the 994i at 4.0.5?

[unispeed]

How long ago was the EZIO2X4 purchased and from what company? ABOUT A MONTH AGO FROM SMARTHOME

 

Does the EZIO2X4 have a passthru outlet on the front of the device? NO PASSTHROUGH

 

Is the EZIO2X4 added to the 99i at 3.3.10 or the 994i at 4.0.5? 99i WITH 3.3.10 4.0.5 IS THE USER INTERFACE

 

I HAVE REMOVED ONCE WILL DO IT AGAIN AND KEEP YOU POSTED

[LeeG]

Repeating the same steps will not likely product different results.

 

First thing to try is a Restore Modem (PLM) to compress PLM link database in case it is full. If that does not result in the Input state changes appearing (assuming other devices do show state changes), Delete the EZIO2X4, Factory Reset the EZIO2X4, run Tools | Diagnostics | Event Viewer at LEVEL 3, add the EZIO2X4 using New Insteon Device. Enter Insteon address, Name of choice, leave Device Type set to default Auto Discover. Post the event trace.

[unispeed]

here ya go

thanks

ISY-Events-Log.v3.3.10__Thu 2013.09.26 01.00.55 AM.txt

[LeeG]

The EZIO2X4 indicated it has an I2 engine which means the internal PLM was reflashed back to a pre I2CS level.

 

It identified itself as an EZIO2X4.

 

The EZIO2X4 was not factory reset before adding it back to the ISY. Both relays were On, Input 2 was On, and the link database was not cleared. There were no errors in the event trace, the 4 Input link records were written starting at 1FF8 which is expected for a 2413 shell (no passthru outlet), and the Inputs were assigned the expected Group numbers of 09-0C. The only issue is the EZIO2X4 was in an unknown configuration because it was not factory reset.

 

Are Inputs 3 & 4 locked to Gnd or connected to pull-up resisters to keep these Inputs from cycling falsely? Because these Inputs can function in Analog mode they have no built-in pull-up resisters so it is necessary to connect these Inputs to either Gnd or to +5V through pull-up resisters to keep them from potentially cycling because the Inputs are floating electrically.

 

If the Inputs are not showing state changes (and all the other Insteon devices are) I would perform a factory reset on the EZIO2X4 and add it back to the ISY after the factory reset.

[unispeed]

got my iolinc and it works like a charm

I tried ground the unused inputs but could not get a status update with out a query

saved the log but it posted ugly with no returns will try again

thanks for the help