Schlage BE469

[hart2hart]

Just installed BE469 and it linked first time and so far works great.  It has a property of battery level.  I'm guessing that this level is linear based on voltage so that 6 volts would be  100% and 0 volts would be 0%.  First, is this correct.  If it is correct the failure will occur well above 0% so my question....  Has anyone been using one long enough to know at what % I should consider replacing the batteries?

 

It would be great if 100% was full charge and 0% was linear representing typical low voltage  threshold but I've never seen it done that way.

Edited November 29, 2014 by hart2hart

[Teken]

Just installed BE469 and it linked first time and so far works great.  It has a property of battery level.  I'm guessing that this level is linear based on voltage so that 6 volts would be  100% and 0 volts would be 0%.  First, is this correct.  If it is correct the failure will occur well above 0% so my question....  Has anyone been using one long enough to know at what % I should consider replacing the batteries?

 

It would be great if 100% was full charge and 0% was linear representing typical low voltage  threshold but I've never seen it done that way.

 

How and where is this property indicated? Is this in the ISY? How about a screen capture for the visually impaired! 

[io_guy]

Mines been in for 1 year and still showing 87% and running fine.

I would guess the % report is on useful life, not 0-6v. But that's a guess

[hart2hart]

How and where is this property indicated? Is this in the ISY? How about a screen capture for the visually impaired! 

 

[stusviews]

Life left, as io_guy pointed out, is a good interpretation. But if you let a smartphone or tablet, for example, go idle, then the life left is longer than it the device is in use.

[hart2hart]

Mines been in for 1 year and still showing 87% and running fine.

I would guess the % report is on useful life, not 0-6v. But that's a guess

 

 

Thanks io_guy.  Since you have a unit that has been in use for a year, we can determine manufacture's intended method using a multi-meter to get a battery pack voltage reading and a little math .  If you get a few minutes, would you indulge my curiosity? 

 

Edit: Actually, I've got some older batteries from the MorningLinc unit this unit replaced so I could install them for a % reading and then test them for voltage.

Edited November 29, 2014 by hart2hart

[io_guy]

Nope, looks like absolute linear after all.

5.26V/6V = 87%.

[Teken]

Nope, looks like absolute linear after all.

5.26V/6V = 87%.

Is this lock set not used very often? What type and brand of battery is being used in the device?

 

 

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[io_guy]

Front door, I use the motor about 10 times a day.

Standard Duracell that came with it.

[hart2hart]

Nope, looks like absolute linear after all.

5.26V/6V = 87%.

 

 

Swapped for older batteries and I can confirm linear with 5.54V/6.0V = 92%.  Guess now we'll either have to let ISYlogger plot and wait for failure point. 

 

I've measured 9V batteries in smoke alarms and they report needing replacement when  8.5V was measured.  I'm sure that had large safety margin.

Edited November 29, 2014 by hart2hart

[Teken]

Front door, I use the motor about 10 times a day.

Standard Duracell that came with it.

Swapped for older batteries and I can confirm linear with 5.52V/6.0V = 92%. Guess now we'll either have to let ISYlogger plot and wait for failure point.

 

I've measured 9V batteries in smoke alarms and they report needing replacement when 8.5V was measured. I'm sure that had large safety margin.

So for those that own these locks, happy? Would you buy them again opposed to purchasing another unit?

 

If so why?

 

Any downsides or features that are not present in this lock set?

 

 

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[hart2hart]

Swapped for older batteries and I can confirm linear with 5.54V/6.0V = 92%.  Guess now we'll either have to let ISYlogger plot and wait for failure point. 

 

 

I suspected this since new batteries are always a little over rated voltage.  At 6.26V, the reading is 100% not 104% so it is linear starting at 6.0V.

[hart2hart]

So for those that own these locks, happy? Would you buy them again opposed to purchasing another unit?

 

If so why?

 

Any downsides or features that are not present in this lock set?

 

 

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I've only been using it a day but spent considerable time researching and my short time reinforces my purchase decision.  I had a MorningLinc lockset and the handles are so small it can be difficult to grip with something in your hands so I switched to a deadbolt and put lever lock in the entry lock opening.  The lock is inside garage to enter house so not weather exposed.  I'd be slow to place this unit (electronic touch screen) where it was not covered from blowing rain or maybe direct southern exposure to sunlight all day.  However, that is supposition on my part, it may be fully engineered for these conditions and not a problem.  Others direct observation would be much more valuable in this area.

 

The BE469 is well supported by ISY with lock settings and usercodes being managed by ISY.  The early very short range issues were not a problem for me.  However to be honest, I purchased a 5 DBi antenna to use while adding devices and then switched to UDI lower DBi supplied external  and it works flawlessly for control (so far).

 

Be aware, with any motorized deadbolt, you will need to make sure you have proper alignment of the door and frame.  Finally, I performed setup/install sequence on lock improperly before realizing a simple factory reset on lock would get it working correctly after spending an hour looking for other issues (not ZWave the bare lock).

 

I would purchase again.

Edited November 29, 2014 by hart2hart

[io_guy]

I have two for a year, would definitely buy again.

One gets South sun and weather all day, no issues.

The only thing I see is minor smoothing of the touchscreen in the front where we enter codes several times a day.

[dbuss]

So for those that own these locks, happy? Would you buy them again opposed to purchasing another unit?

 

If so why?

 

Any downsides or features that are not present in this lock set?

 

 

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I have four of these locks that have been installed for about four months that have worked extremely well. One of the locks would lose communications with the Isy once in awhile. I added an Aeotec range extender and that resolved that issue. One of the locks is on the garage entrance door, which is an inside entrance from the house. I have a program that automatically locks the door after it's been unlocked, so the electronic locking system gets used many times per day.  The other three locks are on exterior doors. two of which have storm doors, so they are not exposed to the elements. The other one is on exterior door with no storm door so it exposed to the elements. The batteries are at 98-99% on all the locks. The ability to incorporate the locks in Isy programs is a real plus. My wife and I really enjoy the convenience of the locks. We would not hesitate to purchase them again and would certainly recommend them. 

[Teken]

I've only been using it a day but spent considerable time researching and my short time reinforces my purchase decision.  I had a MorningLinc lockset and the handles are so small it can be difficult to grip with something in your hands so I switched to a deadbolt and put lever lock in the entry lock opening.  The lock is inside garage to enter house so not weather exposed.  I'd be slow to place this unit (electronic touch screen) where it was not covered from blowing rain or maybe direct southern exposure to sunlight all day.  However, that is supposition on my part, it may be fully engineered for these conditions and not a problem.  Others direct observation would be much more valuable in this area.

 

The BE469 is well supported by ISY with lock settings and usercodes being managed by ISY.  The early very short range issues were not a problem for me.  However to be honest, I purchased a 5 DBi antenna to use while adding devices and then switched to UDI lower DBi supplied external  and it works flawlessly for control (so far).

 

Be aware, with any motorized deadbolt, you will need to make sure you have proper alignment of the door and frame.  Finally, I performed setup/install sequence on lock improperly before realizing a simple factory reset on lock would get it working correctly after spending an hour looking for other issues (not ZWave the bare lock).

 

I would purchase again.

 

 

I have two for a year, would definitely buy again.

One gets South sun and weather all day, no issues.

The only thing I see is minor smoothing of the touchscreen in the front where we enter codes several times a day.

 

I have four of these locks that have been installed for about four months that have worked extremely well. One of the locks would lose communications with the Isy once in awhile. I added an Aeotec range extender and that resolved that issue. One of the locks is on the garage entrance door, which is an inside entrance from the house. I have a program that automatically locks the door after it's been unlocked, so the electronic locking system gets used many times per day.  The other three locks are on exterior doors. two of which have storm doors, so they are not exposed to the elements. The other one is on exterior door with no storm door so it exposed to the elements. The batteries are at 98-99% on all the locks. The ability to incorporate the locks in Isy programs is a real plus. My wife and I really enjoy the convenience of the locks. We would not hesitate to purchase them again and would certainly recommend them. 

 

Thanks guys I really appreciate the real world use case and performance. Please confirm, this lock set does in fact report back the actual state of the lock? Whether it be locked / unlocked? It also shows the state if the lock set is manually locked / unlocked and is reflected in the ISY?

 

As I have seen other brands simply report lock position only if activated remotely vs manually.  

[dbuss]

Thanks guys I really appreciate the real world use case and performance. Please confirm, this lock set does in fact report back the actual state of the lock? Whether it be locked / unlocked? It also shows the state if the lock set is manually locked / unlocked and is reflected in the ISY?

 

As I have seen other brands simply report lock position only if activated remotely vs manually.  

The status of the lock in my Isy changes when the lock is locked or unlocked manually, keypad or remotely. And of course, with the Isy you have the ability to send a notification to let you know the status has changed.

[Teken]

The status of the lock in my Isy changes when the lock is locked or unlocked manually, keypad or remotely. And of course, with the Isy you have the ability to send a notification to let you know the status has changed.

That is most excellent to hear! ️

 

 

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[Jimbo.Automates]

Thanks everyone for responding with your experience. I was thinking about getting these locks and now I definitely will. Amazon has them for $172, with prime shipping which looks like a great price.

 

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[mrbudin]

 

Hart2hart

Can it be control via Mobilinc, and fully support by scense control, program of ÍY?

Edited November 29, 2014 by mrbudin

[Jimbo.Automates]

Mrbudin, thanks I meant to ask that as well, and specifically the Android Mobilinc.

 

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[MikeD]

It can be controlled by the iOS version of MobiLinc, do not know about android version.

[io_guy]

Hart2hart

Can it be control via Mobilinc, and fully support by scense control, program of ÍY?

 

Yes (Android) and Yes

[MikeD]

So for those that own these locks, happy? Would you buy them again opposed to purchasing another unit?

If so why?

Any downsides or features that are not present in this lock set?

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Hi Teken,

 

I installed this lock on my front door back in April and am very happy with it's operation. I did change the batteries after 6 months. The battery level reported was at 86% as I recall. At 86% the internal motor does 'sound' just a bit slower as it moves the bolt. I was leaving for a week and did not want any issues since my family did not accompany me on the trip. With new batteries installed on October 16 and an average of 15 motorized lock/unlock actions per day the battery level is 99% today.

 

I use ISYLogger to record the date/time/user-number that unlocks via keypad. Other actions such as manually locking/unlocking from inside, locking from outside with the Schlage button, locking/unlocking from a KeypadLinc button, and locking after a timeout via program are also logged. I also use Prowl via the Network Module to notify me in real time of the above actions.

 

The only negative I can think of is the number pad is a little difficult to read in direct sunlight but other than that it is perfect!

 

~Mike

[Teken]

Yes (Android) and Yes

 

Sweet, on the bucket list of locks to consider.