Insteon Leak Sensor 2852-222 Review

[Teken]

INSTEON LEAK SENSOR:

 

On December 19, 2014 I received my second set of (2852-222) Leak Sensors and wanted to provide a over view of the latest Leak Sensor features and attributes. I wanted to provide a reference link for the most common questions and answers that may be asked about this product.

 

Ultimately, this information is being provided to the forum members in hopes of keeping the most relevant information in one spot.

 

More relevant details including the users manual can be located at the vendors site here: http://www.smarthome.com/insteon-2852-222-water-leak-sensor.html

 

1. Wireless remote sensor can be placed anywhere in the home.

 

2. 24 HR heart beat check in to ensure the unit is with in RF range and battery is fine.

 

3. Comes with a 10 year lithium AA replaceable battery.

 

4. Three nodes: Wet, Dry, Heart Beat.

 

5. 150 RF range based on line of sight and must be coupled with a dual band device to receive.

 

6. LED Indicator blinks when a wet condition is present.

 

7. Detection feet are made of nickel plated bronze.

 

This is the new packaging listed below. Again, seen this year all of the retail blister packs have been upgraded. 

 

 

Rear of package.

 

 

 

Comparing old and and new packaging of the Leak Sensor:

 

 

Old Packaging 2013 time frame.

 

 

Upon opening the package, Smarthome has included all of the reference links for the product. A quick set up guide that references the HUB II. The top pamphlet indicates the placement of the set button, status LED, battery compartment, and water contacts. 

 

A suggested placement for the sensor is listed to the right from toilets, sink, hot water tank. The next section indicates how to link the Leak Sensor to the HUB via the tap and hold method.

 

 

 

Testing Leak Sensor:

 

Is listed in this pamphlet as well. It should be noted in previous generations of the Leak Sensor hardware release (2213 Rev 2.0).

 

When the sensor became wet the LED on the device would blink. The ISY would indicate a Wet (ON) node state, the Dry node would be (OFF). When the sensor became dry again the Leak Sensor would update the ISY of the change of state from Wet to Dry.

 

In the latest hardware release this behavior has now changed. The current hardware release I have is 2714 Rev 2.1S / 3914 Rev 2.3. As others have indicated when the Leak Sensor became wet than dry it would not update the ISY nodes.

 

I will report back what I find but based on the below literature this behavior requires the user to go back to the Leak Sensor and press the set button to update the (DRY) state node. I believe there is a use case for both if required.

 

I think it comes down to first knowing the expected behavior and planning for it. In the 2013 release this assumes want the most current state to appear in the ISY UI. Obviously receiving an e-mail would make you follow up and visually confirm the problem.

 

But, if you didn't set up an e-mail alert you would never know the sensor was wet, then (became) dry and would not be the wiser when physically looking at the device.

 

Where as with the new behavior its current state will remain this way until you physically confirm and reset the Leak Sensor by pressing the set button. That in turn would update the ISY UI of the change of state.

 

One is considered fail secure vs fail safe.

 

I can see an argument for both methods and comes down to your own use case. 

 

 

DIMENSIONS:

 

Excluding antenna: 0.9" H x 3.6" W x 1.4 D (23mm H x 92mm W x 36mm D)

 

With antenna: 3.7" H x 3.6" W x 1.4" D (93mm H x 92mm W x 36mm D)

 

 

 

 

LEAK SENSOR PROGRAM:

 

Bar none, the only ISY program to make the best use out of the Leak Sensor has come from our very own ISY user: Belias

 

His expertise in crafting such a wonderful and powerful program that allows you to monitor the state of health (heart beat) and receive notifications twice a day.

 

All the while indicating the Leak Sensor in question and various other program checks can be found here:  

http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/11566-leak-sensors-a-suggested-complete-program-package/?hl=+leak%20+sensor

 

Its safe to say his contribution will outlast us all moving forward. 

 

QUESTIONS & ANSWERS:

 

Q: Will the leak sensor detect all kinds of leaks?

 

A: No, the water must have sufficient mineral content to register. Meaning, if the water is distilled or lacking in minerals it may not have enough conductive state to bridge the two contacts together.

 

Q: Can I use the Leak Sensor all by itself to alert me of a water situation?

 

A: Yes / No, the (current) sensor release can indicate at the source a leak has occurred by its flashing green LED. It has no siren, buzzer to aurally notify you. If the Leak Sensor is linked with a controller like the HUB / ISY you can then receive e-mail alerts indicating the same.

 

Q: What does it mean its wireless and what extra's are needed to work effectively?

 

A: The sensor can work just fine by itself locally flashing its LED. If you want the sensor to interact with your Insteon network you need a dual band RF repeater device. These devices will bridge the RF to power line to the controllers like the HUB / ISY.

 

NOTE: The Leak Sensor can be linked to any other Insteon device to turn it on like a light switch or bulb. This would allow you to see a visual confirmation that a wet condition does exists. 

 

Below is just one example to see a condition and monitor it:

 

 

Q: Is the Leak Sensor water proof and can it be submerged in water?

 

A: The sensor is not water proof and can not be submerged in a body of water.

 

Q: Does the Leak Sensor have internal contacts like the Trigger Linc?

 

A: No, it does not but it wouldn't take much effort to solder some wires to the two metal feet to mimic the same effect. The bonus going this route is that you have a 24 HR check in device and could also tell if you were in range of the nearest dual band device.

 

You would need to rename the WET / DRY nodes to Open / Close to reflect the same names seen in the Trigger Linc.

 

Q: Should I hard reset a brand new Insteon device out of the box?

 

A: It is highly suggested all brand new Insteon devices be hard reset out of the box. This will ensure any Smartlabs test settings are removed. Hard resetting a device prior to deployment into the ISY will ensure the device is at its default settings and removes any programmed links.

[Teken]

During the adding process I have noted the latest release of this product behaves much differently than years past. The nodes state is not known until you press on the set button.

 

Upon making the sensor wet the nodes change state. The green LED flashes at 20 second intervals, once dry it does not update the ISY as indicated above.

 

Once dry pressing the set button does not toggle between wet / dry at all as it did in previous releases. This is seen on hardware 3914 Rev 2.3, will report back on the 2714 Rev 2.1S in a few moments.

 

Its also interesting to see all of these newer battery powered devices now show a ISY firmware release which is v.43

 

In previous generations of the battery powered devices it would always show a v.00

[Teken]

After testing hardware 2714 Rev 2.1S this device shows up in the ISY as having firmware v.41. This device behaves in the following manner in my environment.

 

Manual Press: If the sensor is in a dry state, pressing the button will toggle from dry to wet and vice versa. If you leave the sensor in the wet (pressed manually) state it will return to a dry state and update the ISY UI.

 

Placing this hardware version in a wet condition and watching the ISY UI. Shows that placing it on a wet sponge only flashes the wet state for a few moments and then goes back into a dry state. While placing it in a dish of water it remains (ON) and flashes the green LED every 20 seconds.

 

Removing the Leak Sensor from the wet dish immediately returned the wet node to (OFF) and updating the dry node to (ON)

[Grizzy]

Hi,

 

Terrific Post !!

 

INSTEON should pay you for doing their job. Insteon documentation is somewhat less than minimal.

 

It will help resolve a lot of confusion between users thinking "Is it Just me, mine don't work that way"

 

Many thanks for your time and efforts I very much appreciate it.

 

Don

[toflaherty]

After testing hardware 2714 Rev 2.1S this device shows up in the ISY as having firmware v.41. This device behaves in the following manner in my environment.

 

Manual Press: If the sensor is in a dry state, pressing the button will toggle from dry to wet and vice versa. If you leave the sensor in the wet (pressed manually) state it will return to a dry state and update the ISY UI.

 

Placing this hardware version in a wet condition and watching the ISY UI. Shows that placing it on a wet sponge only flashes the wet state for a few moments and then goes back into a dry state. While placing it in a dish of water it remains (ON) and flashes the green LED every 20 seconds.

 

Removing the Leak Sensor from the wet dish immediately returned the wet node to (OFF) and updating the dry node to (ON)

 

4212 Rev 1.0 - shows up as v.41 in ISY

 

Manual Press: If the sensor is in a dry state, pressing the button will toggle from dry to wet and vice versa. If you leave the sensor in the wet (pressed manually) state it will return to a dry state and update the ISY UI.

 

Placing this hardware version in a wet condition and watching the ISY UI shows that placing it in a dish of water it remains (ON) and flashes the green LED many times every 20 seconds.

 

Removing the Leak Sensor from the wet dish immediately returned the wet node to (OFF) and updating the dry node to (ON).

 

4212 Rev 1.1 - shows up as v.41 in ISY

 

Manual Press: If the sensor is in a dry state, pressing the button will toggle from dry to wet and vice versa. If you leave the sensor in the wet (pressed manually) state it will return to a dry state and update the ISY UI.

 

Placing this hardware version in a wet condition and watching the ISY UI shows that placing it in a dish of water it remains (ON) and flashes the green LED once every 15 seconds.

 

Removing the Leak Sensor from the wet dish immediately returned the wet node to (OFF) and updating the dry node to (ON).

 

[toflaherty]

During the adding process I have noted the latest release of this product behaves much differently than years past. The nodes state is not known until you press on the set button.

 

Upon making the sensor wet the nodes change state. The green LED flashes at 20 second intervals, once dry it does not update the ISY as indicated above.

 

Once dry pressing the set button does not toggle between wet / dry at all as it did in previous releases. This is seen on hardware 3914 Rev 2.3, will report back on the 2714 Rev 2.1S in a few moments.

 

Its also interesting to see all of these newer battery powered devices now show a ISY firmware release which is v.43

 

In previous generations of the battery powered devices it would always show a v.00

3914 Rev 2.3 flashes at 17 second intervals.  Not correcting you, just pointing out how weird it is that I've seen 15, 17, and 20 second intervals now..

[Teken]

Hi,

 

Terrific Post !!

 

INSTEON should pay you for doing their job. Insteon documentation is somewhat less than minimal.

 

It will help resolve a lot of confusion between users thinking "Is it Just me, mine don't work that way"

 

Many thanks for your time and efforts I very much appreciate it.

 

Don

Hello Don,

 

Glad you enjoyed the review. My hopes are that others reply back in the future about what they receive and confirm the hardware sticker, ISY firmware, and how it behaves.

 

This will allow others in the future compare and track how various firmware releases impact the device behaviour.

 

Looking forward to your contributions too! ️

 

 

Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

[Teken]

3914 Rev 2.3 flashes at 17 second intervals. Not correcting you, just pointing out how weird it is that I've seen 15, 17, and 20 second intervals now..

I have a few Rev 2.0 that flicker rapidly when in a wet condition also. I really appreciate your contribution and feed back. This is how theses threads can help someone down the line.

 

 

Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

[toflaherty]

4314 Rev 2.3 appears identical to 3914 Rev 2.3 in operation, they just came in cardboard boxes (4-pack sale) vs. the plastic packaging.

[Teken]

4314 Rev 2.3 appears identical to 3914 Rev 2.3 in operation, they just came in cardboard boxes (4-pack sale) vs. the plastic packaging.

There is definitely a overlap when looking at the production date and when a feature is added or deprecated.

 

This is why being able to see and confirm the ISY firmware proves helpful.

 

 

Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

[toflaherty]

There is definitely a overlap when looking at the production date and when a feature is added or deprecated.

 

This is why being able to see and confirm the ISY firmware proves helpful.

 

 

Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

My Rev. 1.0 and Rev. 1.1 leak sensors both show v.41 in ISY but have quite different behaviour.

[Teken]

My Rev. 1.0 and Rev. 1.1 leak sensors both show v.41 in ISY but have quite different behaviour.

Sometimes I think Smartlabs does this to the public to see what shakes out of the tree.

 

Because you will literally see a flip flop in behaviour mid production or at a final RC release, to official.

 

 

Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

[Techman]

Teken,

 

3914 Rev 2.3, firmware .43

 

I noticed that the heartbeat only sent an off signal this morning, is this normal? Once populated the heartbeat node in the ISY will therefore always show OFF.

 

The Dry and Wet nodes are somewhat redundant as Wet is either on or off. Seems there is no need for a dry mode. Once it goes to wet mode you have to manually reset the sensor as you previously noted.

 

Is there a way to force a heartbeat signal in order to test the node?

 

Just noticed that my sensor stopped working this morning. I uninstalled and reinstalled it. Seems to be OK now. Have you run across this issue with this hardware/firmware release?

[Teken]

Teken,

 

3914 Rev 2.3, firmware .43

 

I noticed that the heartbeat only sent an off signal this morning, is this normal? Once populated the heartbeat node in the ISY will therefore always show OFF.

 

The Dry and Wet nodes are somewhat redundant as Wet is either on or off. Seems there is no need for a dry mode. Once it goes to wet mode you have to manually reset the sensor as you previously noted.

 

Is there a way to force a heartbeat signal in order to test the node?

 

Just noticed that my sensor stopped working this morning. I uninstalled and reinstalled it. Seems to be OK now. Have you run across this issue with this hardware/firmware release?

 

If the heartbeat shows *OFF* more than likely its not in range of a RF device this is the most common issue seen with status not being updated consistently.

 

This is why the program Belias created is so valuable to all of us because it will send a report of the connectivity and the 24 hour heartbeat status. The two nodes play an important role in making programs and allows various conditions to be applied to suite users environments and use cases.

 

If you have not applied the leak sensor program to monitor this sensor please do so. Then, you will know if its working, in range, or simply goofy and needs to be sent back. As noted in other related *Reviews* I always suggest as best practice to hard reset any Insteon device right out of the box.

 

This ensures any testing links / programming is erased and removed. Using the ISY remove all links does nothing to reset the device to a factory state.

 

I have not seen any issues with this latest v.43 firmware and (am surprised) I really do like the new feature where the state of Wet / Dry nodes do not return to a Wet / Dry state. It forces me to go down and inspect the areas of concern and really look to see if there is a problem.

 

The other day two of them tripped and I have to say if it wasn't for member Belias program I would not have known of the issue.

 

Heart Beat Test: Pressing on the button will force a heart beat update. It will take about 30-60 seconds for it to be pushed from the Leak Sensor.

[Techman]

If the heartbeat shows *OFF* more than likely its not in range of a RF device this is the most common issue seen with status not being updated consistently.

 

Heart Beat Test: Pressing on the button will force a heart beat update. It will take about 30-60 seconds for it to be pushed from the Leak Sensor.

 

I did a factory reset. When I tap the set button I get dry node and wet node status entries in the log but no heartbeat. With 3914 Rev 2.3, firmware .43 do you see a heartbeat log entry? 

 

The sensor is sitting a few feet from the PLM so it's not a comm issue.

[Teken]

I did a factory reset. When I tap the set button I get dry node and wet node status entries in the log but no heartbeat. With 3914 Rev 2.3, firmware .43 do you see a heartbeat log entry? 

 

The sensor is sitting a few feet from the PLM so it's not a comm issue.

 

Yes, I do . . .

[LeeG]

Techman

 

Can you post the event trace?

 

On earlier leak sensor firmware the heartbeat message is sent 15 to 20 seconds after the other messages. 

[builderb]

On December 19, 2014 I received my second set of (2852-222) Leak Sensors and wanted to provide a over view of the latest Leak Sensor features and attributes. I wanted to provide a reference link for the most common questions and answers that may be asked about this product.

 

Ultimately, this information is being provided to the forum members in hopes of keeping the most relevant information in one spot.

 

More relevant details including the users manual can be located at the vendors site here: http://www.smarthome.com/insteon-2852-222-water-leak-sensor.html

 

1. Wireless remote sensor can be placed anywhere in the home.

 

2. 24 HR heart beat check in to ensure the unit is with in RF range and battery is fine.

 

3. Comes with a 10 year lithium AA replaceable battery.

 

4. Three nodes: Wet, Dry, Heart Beat.

 

5. 150 RF range based on line of sight and must be coupled with a dual band device to receive.

 

6. LED Indicator blinks when a wet condition is present.

 

7. Detection feet are made of nickel plated bronze.

 

This is the new packaging listed below. Again, seen this year all of the retail blister packs have been upgraded.

 

 

Rear of package.

 

 

 

Comparing old and and new packaging of the Leak Sensor:

 

 

Old Packaging 2013 time frame.

 

Upon opening the package, Smarthome has included all of the reference links for the product. A quick set up guide that references the HUB II. The top pamphlet indicates the placement of the set button, status LED, battery compartment, and water contacts.

A suggested placement for the sensor is listed to the right from toilets, sink, hot water tank. The next section indicates how to link the Leak Sensor to the HUB via the tap and hold method.

 

 

Testing Leak Sensor:

 

Is listed in this pamphlet as well. It should be noted in previous generations of the Leak Sensor hardware release (2213 Rev 2.0).

 

When the sensor became wet the LED on the device would blink. The ISY would indicate a Wet (ON) node state, the Dry node would be (OFF). When the sensor became dry again the Leak Sensor would update the ISY of the change of state from Wet to Dry.

 

In the latest hardware release this behavior has now changed. The current hardware release I have is 2714 Rev 2.1S / 3914 Rev 2.3. As others have indicated when the Leak Sensor became wet than dry it would not update the ISY nodes.

 

I will report back what I find but based on the below literature this behavior requires the user to go back to the Leak Sensor and press the set button to update the (DRY) state node. I believe there is a use case for both if required.

 

I think it comes down to first knowing the expected behavior and planning for it. In the 2013 release this assumes want the most current state to appear in the ISY UI. Obviously receiving an e-mail would make you follow up and visually confirm the problem.

 

But, if you didn't set up an e-mail alert you would never know the sensor was wet, then (became) dry and would not be the wiser when physically looking at the device.

 

Where as with the new behavior its current state will remain this way until you physically confirm and reset the Leak Sensor by pressing the set button. That in turn would update the ISY UI of the change of state.

 

One is considered fail secure vs fail safe.

 

I can see an argument for both methods and comes down to your own use case.

 

 

DIMENSIONS:

 

Excluding antenna: 0.9" H x 3.6" W x 1.4 D (23mm H x 92mm W x 36mm D)

 

With antenna: 3.7" H x 3.6" W x 1.4" D (93mm H x 92mm W x 36mm D)

 

 

 

 

LEAK SENSOR PROGRAM:

 

Bar none, the only ISY program to make the best use out of the Leak Sensor has come from our very own ISY user: Belias

 

His expertise in crafting such a wonderful and powerful program that allows you to monitor the state of health (heart beat) and receive notifications twice a day.

 

All the while indicating the Leak Sensor in question and various other program checks can be found here:

http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/11566-leak-sensors-a-suggested-complete-program-package/?hl=+leak%20+sensor

 

Its safe to say his contribution will outlast us all moving forward.

 

QUESTIONS & ANSWERS:

 

Q: Will the leak sensor detect all kinds of leaks?

 

A: No, the water must have sufficient mineral content to register. Meaning, if the water is distilled or lacking in minerals it may not have enough conductive state to bridge the two contacts together.

 

Q: Can I use the Leak Sensor all by itself to alert me of a water situation?

 

A: Yes / No, the (current) sensor release can indicate at the source a leak has occurred by its flashing green LED. It has no siren, buzzer to aurally notify you. If the Leak Sensor is linked with a controller like the HUB / ISY you can then receive e-mail alerts indicating the same.

 

Q: What does it mean its wireless and what extra's are needed to work effectively?

 

A: The sensor can work just fine by itself locally flashing its LED. If you want the sensor to interact with your Insteon network you need a dual band RF repeater device. These devices will bridge the RF to power line to the controllers like the HUB / ISY.

 

NOTE: The Leak Sensor can be linked to any other Insteon device to turn it on like a light switch or bulb. This would allow you to see a visual confirmation that a wet condition does exists.

 

Below is just one example to see a condition and monitor it:

 

 

Q: Is the Leak Sensor water proof and can it be submerged in water?

 

A: The sensor is not water proof and can not be submerged in a body of water.

 

Q: Does the Leak Sensor have internal contacts like the Trigger Linc?

 

A: No, it does not but it wouldn't take much effort to solder some wires to the two metal feet to mimic the same effect. The bonus going this route is that you have a 24 HR check in device and could also tell if you were in range of the nearest dual band device.

 

You would need to rename the WET / DRY nodes to Open / Close to reflect the same names seen in the Trigger Linc.

 

Q: Should I hard reset a brand new Insteon device out of the box?

 

A: It is highly suggested all brand new Insteon devices be hard reset out of the box. This will ensure any Smartlabs test settings are removed. Hard resetting a device prior to deployment into the ISY will ensure the device is at its default settings and removes any programmed links.

[Teken]

Was there a question?

 

All I see is a massive wall of quote from the review? 

[Techman]

LeeG

 

Here's the log from a short press of the set button

 

Teken,

 

Don't know where all the quotes (post 18) came from.

 

 

Wed 12/24/2014 12:35:32 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 31.C4.2F 00.00.01 CF 11 01 LTONRR (01)

Wed 12/24/2014 12:35:32 PM : [std-Group ] 31.C4.2F-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3

Wed 12/24/2014 12:35:32 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [31 C4 2F 1] [DON] [1] uom=0 prec=-1

Wed 12/24/2014 12:35:32 PM : [ 31 C4 2F 1] DON 1

Wed 12/24/2014 12:35:33 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 31.C4.2F 00.00.01 CF 11 01 LTONRR (01)

Wed 12/24/2014 12:35:33 PM : [std-Group ] 31.C4.2F-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3

Wed 12/24/2014 12:35:33 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored.

Wed 12/24/2014 12:35:33 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 31.C4.2F 2F.B9.FB 45 11 01 LTONRR (01)

Wed 12/24/2014 12:35:33 PM : [std-Cleanup ] 31.C4.2F-->ISY/PLM Group=1, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=1

Wed 12/24/2014 12:35:33 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored.

Wed 12/24/2014 12:35:33 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 31.C4.2F 11.01.01 CF 06 00 (00)

Wed 12/24/2014 12:35:33 PM : [std-Group ] 31.C4.2F-->11.01.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3

Wed 12/24/2014 12:35:33 PM : [iNST-INFO ] Previous message ignored.

Wed 12/24/2014 12:35:34 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 31.C4.2F 11.01.01 CF 06 00 (00)

Wed 12/24/2014 12:35:34 PM : [std-Group ] 31.C4.2F-->11.01.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3

Wed 12/24/2014 12:35:34 PM : [iNST-INFO ] Previous message ignored.

[LeeG]

The Heartbeat message would have come about 15 seconds later. This trace has a Dry On (Group 1) followed some 15 seconds later with a Heartbeat message (group 4)

Wed 12/24/2014 03:51:47 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 21.7A.CC 00.00.01 C7 11 01 LTONRR (01)
Wed 12/24/2014 03:51:47 PM : [std-Group ] 21.7A.CC-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1
Wed 12/24/2014 03:51:47 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [21 7A CC 1] [DON] [1] uom=0 prec=-1
Wed 12/24/2014 03:51:47 PM : [ 21 7A CC 1] DON 1
Wed 12/24/2014 03:51:48 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 21.7A.CC 00.00.01 CB 11 01 LTONRR (01)
Wed 12/24/2014 03:51:48 PM : [std-Group ] 21.7A.CC-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Wed 12/24/2014 03:51:48 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored.
Wed 12/24/2014 03:51:49 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 21.7A.CC 22.80.0B 41 11 01 LTONRR (01)
Wed 12/24/2014 03:51:49 PM : [std-Cleanup ] 21.7A.CC-->ISY/PLM Group=1, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0
Wed 12/24/2014 03:51:49 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored.
Wed 12/24/2014 03:51:49 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 21.7A.CC 11.01.01 CB 06 00 (00)
Wed 12/24/2014 03:51:49 PM : [std-Group ] 21.7A.CC-->11.01.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Wed 12/24/2014 03:51:49 PM : [iNST-INFO ] Previous message ignored.
Wed 12/24/2014 03:51:51 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 21.7A.CC 11.01.01 CB 06 00 (00)
Wed 12/24/2014 03:51:51 PM : [std-Group ] 21.7A.CC-->11.01.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Wed 12/24/2014 03:51:51 PM : [iNST-INFO ] Previous message ignored.

Heartbeat message about 13 seconds later

Wed 12/24/2014 03:52:03 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 21.7A.CC 00.00.04 CB 11 04 LTONRR (04)
Wed 12/24/2014 03:52:03 PM : [std-Group ] 21.7A.CC-->Group=4, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Wed 12/24/2014 03:52:03 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [21 7A CC 4] [DON] [4] uom=0 prec=-1
Wed 12/24/2014 03:52:03 PM : [ 21 7A CC 4] DON 4
Wed 12/24/2014 03:52:03 PM : [D2D-CMP 0044] CTL [21 7A CC 4] DON op=1 Event(val=4 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) --> true
Wed 12/24/2014 03:52:05 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 21.7A.CC 00.00.04 CB 11 04 LTONRR (04)
Wed 12/24/2014 03:52:05 PM : [std-Group ] 21.7A.CC-->Group=4, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
Wed 12/24/2014 03:52:05 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored.
Wed 12/24/2014 03:52:06 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 21.7A.CC 22.80.0B 41 11 04 LTONRR (04)
Wed 12/24/2014 03:52:06 PM : [std-Cleanup ] 21.7A.CC-->ISY/PLM Group=4, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0
Wed 12/24/2014 03:52:06 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored.
Wed 12/24/2014 03:52:06 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 21.7A.CC 11.01.04 CB 06 00 (00)
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[Techman]

LeeG

 

I just tried another leak sensor and got the same results. No heartbeat when the set button is pressed.

 

My ISY firmware is 4.2.18  

All the leak sensor modules I tested were 3914  Rev 2.3, firmware .43

 

I see you're running 4.2.21. I wonder if that makes a difference.  What's the firmware version on the leak sensor in your test?
 

[LeeG]

The ISY firmware does not matter.  My Leak Sensor is an earlier firmware (V.3E). 

[Teken]

LeeG

 

I just tried another leak sensor and got the same results. No heartbeat when the set button is pressed.

 

My ISY firmware is 4.2.18  

All the leak sensor modules I tested were 3914  Rev 2.3, firmware .43

 

I see you're running 4.2.21. I wonder if that makes a difference.  What's the firmware version on the leak sensor in your test?

 

 

Are these new sensors using the Leak Sensor program? If not please add them in and report back what state they show up as. This is the easiest method to determine a in range / out of range, program not running, battery fault.

[Techman]

LeeG,

 

I wonder if the newer firmware/hardware release changed things. I tried calling Smarthome hoping to get their release notes but they're closed today and back to work on Friday.

 

Teken,

 

I not using a program yet. I've only added them to the ISY. What leak sensor program are you referring to?