Just realized my 6 button KPL switches can turn into an 8 button one which is much better for me for some of them.  Is it possible to do something similar but instead keep the top 2 buttons as 1, but be a toggle for the load, so ON/OFF by pressing it?  Then I'll have the 4 smaller square buttons like normal, but replace the bottom rectangle "OFF" button which turns the load off by default, with 2 square buttons?  So one rectangle on top, and then 6 squares below?  Or does it have to be either 6 or 8?

Taking advantage of scenes, spare buttons, and an xacto knife, a seven-button keypad is quite possible.

Just realized my 6 button KPL switches can turn into an 8 button one which is much better for me for some of them.  Is it possible to do something similar but instead keep the top 2 buttons as 1, but be a toggle for the load, so ON/OFF by pressing it?  Then I'll have the 4 smaller square buttons like normal, but replace the bottom rectangle "OFF" button which turns the load off by default, with 2 square buttons?  So one rectangle on top, and then 6 squares below?  Or does it have to be either 6 or 8?

 

Yes, you would need to configure it as a 8 button unit then use a 6 button frame kit. You would of course need to cross link the two buttons together so it activated.

3-device KPL (6-button mode, 6-button frame)
Use four large buttons
Include buttons A & B in all scenes as controllers, include buttons C & D in all scenes as controllers

4-device KPL (6-button mode, 8-button frame)
Use four large buttons
Include buttons A & B in all scenes as controllers, include buttons C & D in all scenes as controllers, include buttons E & F in all scenes as controllers, include buttons G & H in all scenes as controllers

5-device KPL (6-button mode, 6-button frame)
Nothing needs to be changed

6-device KPL (8-button mode, 6-button frame)
Use two large and four small buttons
Include buttons A & B in all scenes as controllers, include buttons G & H in all scenes as controllers

7-device KPL (8-button mode, 8-button frame)
Use one large and six small buttons
Include buttons A & B in all scenes as controllers

8-device KPL (8-button mode, 8-button frame)
Nothing needs to be changed

Thanks!

Yes, I have several 4 button KPLs.  They have a very high WAF due to the more simple look and layout.  My wife hates the 8 button and even the 6 button.  But 4?  Loves it.  

 

I just put AB in one scene, CD in 2nd scene, EF in 3rd and GH in a 4th.  

Yes, I have several 4 button KPLs.  They have a very high WAF due to the more simple look and layout.  My wife hates the 8 button and even the 6 button.  But 4?  Loves it.  

 

I just put AB in one scene, CD in 2nd scene, EF in 3rd and GH in a 4th.  

 Others have mentioned the four-button configuration, but relating this to high WAF may have been the slap to my head that this may be a solution to a WAF problem I have been having.  Thanks.

Others have mentioned the four-button configuration, but relating this to high WAF may have been the slap to my head that this may be a solution to a WAF problem I have been having. Thanks.

Yes, I was thinking the exact same thing. Now my to do list just got much longer! Thanks a lot.

 

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A 4-button KPL can control 3 or 4 devices, see #4

2-device KPL

 

Method 1:

6-button mode

Top On. Bottom Off--load 1

 A & B non-toggle ON, C & D non-toggle OFF--load 2

 

Method 2:

8-button mode

A & B non-toggle ON, C & D non-toggle OFF--load 1

E & F non-toggle ON, G & H non-toggle OFF--load 2

 

load 2 is a secondary device