edokid Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 Hi everyone, I was using Indigo for a bit and on it you can just click any device, view links, and modify them there. So to have a lamp turn on with KPL button 2, you'd just edit the KPL links, add the lamp as a responder on KPL group 2 for button 2, and pick the level you want it to go on. If you want to also have the front foyer light on, you do the same thing add it as a link with group 2, set the level etc. I'm using the ISY again and I didn't factory reset most devices because most scenes I made with Indigo are in the devices themselves. I did a restore of the ISY and things seem to work fine, but been going through the admin console and can't seem to find where I can manually view all links to delete junk ones or make changes? Like in my KPL lamp example above, I have that one still working, however the ISY doesn't have a scene for this so it doesn't know about it. I want to make ISY scenes for the ones currently created in the devices but I'm not sure how to actually view them. I tried doing Show Device Links table but it's just a bunch of numbers. When I'd do that on Indigo it would actually show the links as like "Living Room Lamp - Group 2 - 50%" etc. Either way it doesn't seem like I can even remove the links from this view. Is it safe to assume that I can't view/modify them from the ISY? Just would be nice to see the scenes in the ISY as I'm not going to factory reset all my devices as there's too many scenes created in them already. Thanks!
LeeG Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 Directly modifying link records is not supported with the ISY. Define an ISY Scene, add KPL button as a Controller, add the device being acted on as a Responder. Scene xxxx KPL Button 2 - Controller LampLinc - Responder Click on KPL Button 2 below Scene name. Set the desired On Level and Ramp Rate. The Scene definitions were likely created when the devices were added if "Add devices found in links and keep existing links" option was chosen. Click the button definition in the devices list. The Scenes in which the button is part of displays on the right side.
edokid Posted February 7, 2015 Author Posted February 7, 2015 I was using the ISY, had all my devices linked to the PLM, all my scenes etc. I backed up the PLM and ISY, then wiped the PLM to factory as with all my devices and used Indigo for awhile where I made direct links and scenes. I then put the PLM back on the ISY, didn't touch any devices, and just did restore ISY from backup and restore PLM, I forget which basically all the restore options. Everything is working (as nothing was ever removed from the ISY in terms of old scenes etc), it's more I just have no way of knowing what other links still exist. Nothing was added again so Remove Links was never chosen as they all came back from the backup. So like my motion sensor still triggers motion, but then flashes the red LED forever indicating a com problem but I don't know what it's looking for. Same with another KPL button, I press it and my front foyer light dims, but in the ISY I do not have that indicated as a scene. I could make one then remove it, but it's more like other KPL buttons if I press one, 6 other lights change status, dim, brighten etc which were made in Indigo as direct device to device links (without the PLM) as Indigo lets you make scenes on the PLM, or device to device (such as lamp to KPL button). It's more those scenes that I have no way of modifying now without being able to view the links. Actually quick edit, all I had to do was plug the PLM back into Indigo and then view links on the devices. I can just manage and modify the old links there removing them so the ISY can make them.
LeeG Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 The ISY/PLM is not in synch with the devices. Indigo created all the device links which will not match the order in which the ISY had created them. The ISY always links the PLM and devices when Scenes are created. The ISY created PLM to device links are missing at the device level. Plus whatever individual link record changes have been made. There is a File | Restore Devices which will bring the devices to the ISY level of information. At present you have a disaster with the ISY and PLM totally out of sync with the devices. You cannot correct this by manually altering link records.
edokid Posted February 7, 2015 Author Posted February 7, 2015 Maybe I'm not clear, there's no disaster here. The ISY controls all devices as expected and all scenes I had set up before the ISY put back to the way they were. Everything is working as expected, I just thought there'd be a way like Indigo where I could view the device links and remove or add them manually if necessary, like when I moved to Indigo, I could go in and remove anything the ISY created and so on. I just wanted to verify there weren't bad links hanging around but if I view the device links table in the ISY it's not very helpful as it lists them as the Insteon device ID vs their name, so have to hunt and match up what everything is referring to.
LeeG Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) "I then put the PLM back on the ISY, didn't touch any devices, and just did restore ISY from backup and restore PLM, " From this the device links were not restored. If other steps were taken then my conclusions would be wrong. The device links table can be viewed with a Show Device Links Table. They CANNOT be manually changed by the ISY. Edited February 7, 2015 by LeeG
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