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Need an answer about Z wave switches


Guitartexan01

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Hey guys-

 

I have two questions about z wave switches, the answer of which could solve a significant problem for certain control situations.

Question 1: when you press a z-wave switch, does it send out a continuos signal? And when you release the push, does it end transmitting the signal?

 

Question 2: on a z-wave controlled receptacle or switch ic board....would it be possible to stop the latching? In other words would it be possible to modify a switch and device so that when one pushed the switch, the receptacle has power. When one would release the switch, power would go off.

I am trying to have a z-wave momentary on switch open and close a relay. I think I could use the Enerwave seven button switch if I had some kind z-wave relay that did not latch, ideally something with DPDT.

 

Thanks for any help or ideas.

 

 

GT

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1. Like virtually all HA switches, if it's an On/Off device it will send an instantaneous on or off signal whether it is tapped or held. If the device is a dimmer, then it will send a continuous signal until the maximum or minimum is reached and then stop even if the paddle or button is held.

 

2. Although there are momentary contact HA devices, the duration is preset (a function of the device) and is independent of how long the button or paddle is held.

 

 

Correction: devices will send out a continuous signal if the button or paddle is held. It's the responder that stops when the maximum (or minimum) ir reached.

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That's what I thought from all the cut sheets I am reading. It would appear there is no way to zwave control a servo down to the level of adjustment I am after. Presets, yes, but no tuning on the fly as it were.

That leaves me with a wifi relay servo control that I can integrate through the network module.

That's the answer then.

Thanks stusviews.

 

 

 

GT

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Glad I could help without actually doing anything B)

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Here's some interesting observations for the GE Smart Switch.

 

If you press the paddle to either ON or OFF for long enough that the relay inside switches, no signal is sent, as seen by ISY ZWave Event viewer; level 3.

 

If you tap the paddle just long enough to start the switching process, it sends a signal:

Thu 03/03/2016 08:03:17 PM : [ZWAVE-RX        ] [0110004984210A04]...
Thu 03/03/2016 08:03:17 PM : [ZWAVE-TX        ] ACK
Thu 03/03/2016 08:03:17 PM : [ZWAVE-TX ZW033_1] [0109001321022502]...
Thu 03/03/2016 08:03:17 PM : [ZWAVE-RX        ] ACK
Thu 03/03/2016 08:03:17 PM : [ZWAVE-RX        ] [0104011301E8]
Thu 03/03/2016 08:03:17 PM : [ZWAVE-TX        ] ACK
Thu 03/03/2016 08:03:17 PM : [ZWAVE-RX        ] [01050013D7003E]
Thu 03/03/2016 08:03:17 PM : [ZWAVE-TX        ] ACK
Thu 03/03/2016 08:03:17 PM : [ZWAVE-RX ZW033_1] [0109000400210325]...
Thu 03/03/2016 08:03:17 PM : [ZWAVE-TX        ] ACK
Thu 03/03/2016 08:03:17 PM : [D2D EVENT   ] Event [ZW033_1] [sT] [0] uom=78 prec=0
Thu 03/03/2016 08:03:17 PM : [     ZW033_1]       ST   0 (uom=78 prec=0)

 

The signal is sent whether or not the relay actually switches, that is you can send multiple "ON" messages without sending an "OFF" message, but the tap - not - hold rule still holds.  Successive taps ON or OFF do not cause successive ISY events.

 

For this switch in a 3-way configuration, I have not been able to tap the remote slowly enough to get the master to operate and quickly enough to get the the status sent.

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