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Somfy drapery control - stop midway


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Posted

Using only the buttons on the Somfy RTS interface set to the appropriate channel, do you get consistent results?

The answer is Yes! I just tried channel 2 and channel 3 up, down, stop multiple times and it worked perfectly every time.

Posted

Link a device or KPL button manually as described in Paceyben's manual as a controller of the Somfy bridge. Use On, Off and dim to control the blinds. Are the results still consistent?

Posted

Link a device or KPL button manually as described in Paceyben's manual as a controller of the Somfy bridge. Use On, Off and dim to control the blinds. Are the results still consistent?

Sorry for the delay, but I linked one of my Insteon mini-remotes as a controller to the two blinds in question. It opens and closes the blinds each time, without fail. 

 

I also tried relocating the RTS, but it was already only about 30 feet from the blinds in question. Still, I was getting inconsistent response when I ran the programs to test close and open. I combined the programs as posted below. The most often seen behavior was that the blinds would go right through the "Stop" command and open all the way to the upright position (closed). I tried playing around with the program, adding and removing "wait" times, but that never seemed to make a difference. Unfortunately, there is no consistency in the "inconsistency", if that makes sense. Here are the programs that I have currently in place.

 

I'm controlling a shade on the left and a shade on the right. They operate on channels 2 and 3 respectively of the RTS. One note about the programs . . . I originally had a close command in the morning program, in the event the shades were open at night after they were closed and left in the open position. I removed the command, just to avoid another command. The 2 second wait after the stop command is the time it takes for the shades to go from closed to halfway open.

 

This program closes the shades at night
Office Shades Evening Close - [iD 0126][Parent 0116]
 
If
        Time is Sunset  + 30 minutes
 
Then
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 2 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 25 (Beep Duration)
        Wait  5 seconds
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 3 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 25 (Beep Duration)
 
Else
   - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')
 
The first beep duration communicates the channel that the ISY sends the command.
The second beep duration communicates what you want the Somfy to do.
Beep Duration = 20 to raise the blinds
Beep Duration = 25 to lower the blinds
Beep Duration of 30 to stop the blinds.
Channel 2 controls the right window as your facing the window
Channel 3 controls the left window as your facing the window
 
This program opens the shades in the morning, after the sun sufficiently rises above the windows.
Office Shades Open Morning - [iD 011E][Parent 0116]
 
If
        Time is 10:00:00AM
 
Then
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 2 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 20 (Beep Duration)
        Wait  2 seconds
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 2 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 30 (Beep Duration)
        Wait  5 seconds
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 3 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 20 (Beep Duration)
        Wait  2 seconds
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 3 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 30 (Beep Duration)
 
Else
   - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')
 
The first beep duration communicates the channel that the ISY sends the command.
The second beep duration communicates what you want the Somfy to do.
Beep Duration = 20 to raise the blinds
Beep Duration = 25 to lower the blinds
Beep Duration of 30 to stop the blinds.
 
Posted

The programs appear ideal. It's possible the the Somfy Bridge is missing the command. Try repeating the stop command.

Posted

The programs appear ideal. It's possible the the Somfy Bridge is missing the command. Try repeating the stop command.

Well, the jury is still deliberating, but adding the extra STOP command did indeed stop the blinds. It has now worked as planned. One note, is that I did relink the problem blinds on Channel 2 back to the RTS after some communication issues.

 

One thing I saw in another Forum http://www.c4forums.com/topic/12764-somfy-urts-ii-installation/ was that with the Zigbee control, the STOP command would actually stop the blinds at the "Favorite" position set with the remote. I decided to try it with my command and it worked without having the 2 second pause. I've had the blinds move past the Favorite position, stop and then move back down to the Favorite position. I had originally placed the 2 second pause in to have the blinds stop midway, given the fact that a timed close took 4 seconds.

 

I'll report back if I see inconsistent results, but for now, it's working. Thanks again for all your assistance!

Posted

The inconsistencies have continued. Its strange that it works "seemingly" every time when I run the "THEN" portion of the program, but when it runs the "IF" there are inconsistencies. Again, there is no consistent response. I wanted to post the log to see if someone better at reading the log can see what might be happening. I set two programs to run. One to close the blinds at 3:00 pm and one to open the blinds at 3:03 pm. Here are the programs as they were. I've issued the STOP command twice, as it seemed to be missing that command more often. Not sure that has made any difference, as yet. Channel 2 controls the "right" set of blinds and Channel 3 controls the left.

 

Office Shades Evening Close - [iD 0126][Parent 0116]
 
If
        Time is  3:00:00PM
 
Then
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 2 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 25 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 2 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 25 (Beep Duration)
        Wait  2 seconds
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 3 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 25 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 3 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 25 (Beep Duration)
 
Else
   - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')
 
 
Office Shades Open Morning - [iD 011E][Parent 0116]
 
If
        Time is  3:03:00PM
 
Then
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 2 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 20 (Beep Duration)
        Wait  2 seconds
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 2 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 30 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 2 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 30 (Beep Duration)
        Wait  5 seconds
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 3 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 20 (Beep Duration)
        Wait  2 seconds
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 3 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 30 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 3 (Beep Duration)
        Set 'Somfy Bridge - 0' 30 (Beep Duration)
 
Else
   - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')
 
 
Here is the log. I tried to only include the relevant events, etc.
 

08.1E.CB is the Somfy Bridge
22.17.F4 is an Insteon 2441TH Thermostat that seems to be having some communications problems.
I’m also getting a lot of X10 traffic that appears to be noise (I think from the thermostat) I have no X10 devices.
27.90.E2 is a kitchen motion sensor
3C.2B.7A is a On/Off Switch in my storage area

 

I do see some instances where the Max Hops = 3 and Hops Left = 0 on the Somfy Bridge. It is located about 20 feet from the
blinds in question and there are at least 10 Insteon switches, a insteon smoke bridge and a lamplinc within sight of the bridge.


[in this instance, the Channel 2 blind closed, but the Channel 3 blind stayed open. I then closed it with the remote]

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:00 PM : [        Time] 15:00:00 0(0)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:00 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 02

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:00 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 19

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:00 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 02

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:00 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 08.1E.CB 0F 30 02 06          BEEP   (02)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:00 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 2B 30 02    BEEP   (02)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:00 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:00 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:00 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 08.1E.CB 0F 30 19 06          BEEP   (19)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:01 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 2B 30 19    BEEP   (19)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:01 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:01 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:01 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 08.1E.CB 0F 30 02 06          BEEP   (02)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:01 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 19

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:01 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 08.1E.CB 0F 30 19 06          BEEP   (19)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:01 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 27 30 02    BEEP   (02)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:01 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:01 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:01 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 03

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:02 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 27.90.E2 30.6C.4A 41 11 01    LTONRR (01)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:02 PM : [std-Cleanup ] 27.90.E2-->ISY/PLM Group=1, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:02 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 08.1E.CB 0F 30 03 06          BEEP   (03)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:02 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 19

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:02 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 03

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:03 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 2B 30 19    BEEP   (19)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:03 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:03 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:03 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 08.1E.CB 0F 30 03 06          BEEP   (03)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:03 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 2F 30 03    BEEP   (03)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:03 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:03 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:04 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 19

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:04 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 08.1E.CB 0F 30 19 06          BEEP   (19)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:04 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 2B 30 03    BEEP   (03)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:04 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:04 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:04 PM : [D2D EVENT   ] Event [27 90 E2 1] [DON] [0] uom=0 prec=-1

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:04 PM : [  27 90 E2 1]      DON   0

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:04 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 2B 30 19    BEEP   (19)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:00:04 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

[Appears to be the last command to close]


[blinds were scheduled to open at 3:03 pm]
[The blinds on Channel 2 worked fine, but the blinds on Channel 3 opened only about an inch]


Thu 07/07/2016 03:02:59 PM : [        Time] 15:03:00 0(0)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:02:59 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 02

Thu 07/07/2016 03:02:59 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 14

Thu 07/07/2016 03:02:59 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 08.1E.CB 0F 30 02 06          BEEP   (02)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:02:59 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 08.1E.CB 0F 30 14 06          BEEP   (14)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:02:59 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 2B 30 02    BEEP   (02)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:02:59 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 07/07/2016 03:02:59 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:00 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 2B 30 14    BEEP   (14)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:00 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:00 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:01 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 02

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:01 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 1E

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:01 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 02

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:01 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 08.1E.CB 0F 30 02 06          BEEP   (02)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:01 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 2B 30 02    BEEP   (02)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:01 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:01 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:01 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 08.1E.CB 0F 30 1E 06          BEEP   (1E)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:02 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 2B 30 1E    BEEP   (1E)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:02 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:02 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:02 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 08.1E.CB 0F 30 02 06          BEEP   (02)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:02 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 2F 30 02    BEEP   (02)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:02 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:02 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:03 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 1E

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:03 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 08.1E.CB 0F 30 1E 06          BEEP   (1E)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:03 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 2B 30 1E    BEEP   (1E)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:03 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:03 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:04 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 22.17.F4 30.6C.4A 0B 6F 39           (39)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:04 PM : [std-Direct  ] 22.17.F4-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:04 PM : [D2D EVENT   ] Event [22 17 F4 1] [CLIHUM] [57] uom=0 prec=-1

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:04 PM : [  22 17 F4 1]   CLIHUM  57

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:06 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 03

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:06 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 14

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:06 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 08.1E.CB 0F 30 03 06          BEEP   (03)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:07 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 2B 30 03    BEEP   (03)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:07 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:07 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:08 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 22.17.F4 30.6C.4A 01 6F 35           (35)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:08 PM : [std-Direct  ] 22.17.F4-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:08 PM : [D2D EVENT   ] Event [22 17 F4 1] [CLIHUM] [53] uom=0 prec=-1

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:08 PM : [  22 17 F4 1]   CLIHUM  53

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:08 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 22.17.F4 30.6C.4A 02 6F 35           (35)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:08 PM : [std-Direct  ] 22.17.F4-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=0

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:09 PM : [X10-RX      ] 02 52 FF 80

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:09 PM : [         X10]       J/Status Request (10)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:09 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 03

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:09 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 1E

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:09 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 08.1E.CB 0F 30 03 06          BEEP   (03)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:09 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 22.17.F4 30.6C.4A 01 6F 34           (34)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:09 PM : [std-Direct  ] 22.17.F4-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:09 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 03

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:09 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 08 1E CB 0F 30 1E

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:09 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 08.1E.CB 0F 30 1E 06          BEEP   (1E)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:09 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 2B 30 03    BEEP   (03)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:09 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:09 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:09 PM : [D2D EVENT   ] Event [22 17 F4 1] [CLIHUM] [52] uom=0 prec=-1

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:09 PM : [  22 17 F4 1]   CLIHUM  52

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:09 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 23 30 03    BEEP   (03)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:09 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:09 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:10 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 2B 30 1E    BEEP   (1E)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:10 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:10 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:10 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 08.1E.CB 0F 30 03 06          BEEP   (03)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:10 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 2B 30 03    BEEP   (03)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:10 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:10 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:10 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 08.1E.CB 0F 30 1E 06          BEEP   (1E)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:11 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 3C 2B 7A 0F 13 00

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:11 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 2B 30 1E    BEEP   (1E)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:11 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:11 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:11 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 3C.2B.7A 0F 13 00 06          LTOFFRR(00)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:11 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 08.1E.CB 30.6C.4A 23 30 1E    BEEP   (1E)

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:11 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 08.1E.CB-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0

Thu 07/07/2016 03:03:11 PM : [iNST-DUP    ] Previous message ignored.

[Appears to be the last piece of the Open Blinds command]

 
 

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