Keypad and fanlinc confusion

[danbutter]

Ok so I installed a ceiling fan this past weekend and I put in a fanlinc and a keypad to control it.

This is a keypad with the top and bottom two bridged/6button if it matters.

So I tried to do all the crosslinking and it works, but it works differently than an 8 button keypad and fanlinc I have in another room.

This new one is set to toggle for all buttons and I have button A set to low fan, B to med fan and C to high fan.  The thing is that when A is already pressed and the fan is running on low pressing B will change to med fan speed, but button A is still lit. So now the speed is med , but both buttons are lit.

 

The other keypad and fanlinc I have doesn't do this. If A is pushed and then B is pushed then the speed goes up and the A button light goes out.

 

I have poured over the admin console trying to figure it out , but everything looks the same except the different versions. 

 

Any ideas what I should look into?

[James Peterson]

I am not sure how others accomplish this, but I put all of the buttons in a scene for each state of the fan and set the appropriate levels for each button and fan motor depending on the button press.

 

 

[LeeG]

There is either a Scene being used by the 8 button which sets the On Level of the other KPL buttons to 0% On (Off), or there is a Program that is turning Off the other buttons.  KPL does not automatically turn Off other buttons.   

[danbutter]

I'll have to look harder I guess.

I do have a scene for each button and each speed and I'm 99.9% sure there are no programs turning off the buttons on the 8 button keypad.

 

Will report back when home and can check.

 

Thanks for the replies.

[G W]

There is either a Scene being used by the 8 button which sets the On Level of the other KPL buttons to 0% On (Off), or there is a Program that is turning Off the other buttons. KPL does not automatically turn Off other buttons.

It does if you group the buttons.

 

Best regards,

Gary Funk

[apnar]

Check the scene for the speed B represents. Look at the sub node under that scene for button B. In that make sure the "on level" for A is 0%.

[LeeG]

Buttons Grouping should not be used with ISY.

Edited July 11, 2016 by LeeG

[G W]

Buttons Grouping should not be used with ISY.

I've seen that warning forever. I've grouped all 11 of my FanLink KPLs and I've never seen a problem.

 

Best regards,

Gary Funk

[stusviews]

The problem occurs if and when you make changes, most especially a reset. Read the warning. You may also encounter difficulties if you need to replace a device.

[oberkc]

I have used groupings in the past, as well, but prefer scenes so I do not use them now.  Never saw a problem, but never made changes or replaced such a device.

 

I'll have to look harder I guess.

 

  Be sure to take advantage of the tools.  Select the device in question and it will show the scenes in which it is a part.  From the programs list, there is a "find and replace" option that is very helpful for finding where certain devices are contained in a program.

[danbutter]

I hadn't heard anything about the grouping. That is how my 8 key keypad is and I did the same to the 6 key.

Now I have ungrouped and done the scene the way james and apnar recommended and all is well so far.

 

The only other thing I wondered was can you add a fast off to turn both fan and light off to a scene or does it need to be a program?

I couldn't figure out how if you can do it in a scene.

 

Thanks for all the helpful replies.

[stusviews]

A scene will respond to off or fast off, but a button or paddle can control only one scene. If you want to a button or paddle that's already a controller for a scene, then you'll need to use a program. The quickest response will occur if the program controls a scene rather than two devices. Create a scene where the trigger is a button or paddle fast off (If) and Then turns off the scene that has only the light and motor as responders.

Edited July 14, 2016 by stusviews