Blackbird Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I figured out how to export my lighting data from isy to elk and was wondering if you can do this with programs also? What id like to do is push the f4 button on the elk keypad and run my program to turn off my lights. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrojanHorse Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Do you want to have the ELK or ISY control the lights? I can't speak to direct Elk control. Conceptually, one way to have the ISY control it is to have a "phantom output" in the ELK that is toggled on/off by pressing the F4 button on the keypad. Use ElkRP to write a rule in the automation folder and choose an output like #200 (the higher numbers are the phantom outputs). Then write a program in ISY: If Elk output 200 is = 1 Then turn off scene If I recall you can also toggle the illumination of the F4 key. I'm not in front of my computer right now so can't give precise detail but hoping this helps send you in the right direction. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWareman Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Or bypass doing anything on ELK - and do it all with an ISY program: New Program - [ID 028A][Parent 0244] If Elk Keypad 'Hall' 'F4' is Pressed Then - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbird Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 Or bypass doing anything on ELK - and do it all with an ISY program: New Program - [ID 028A][Parent 0244] If Elk Keypad 'Hall' 'F4' is Pressed Then - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Amongst all of you elk/isy users, is the preferred method for most programs to be done on the isy vs elk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWareman Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Personally, if I can do it natively on ISY I do. Some things I cannot, so I use the 'phantom' output detailed above for Elk logic to trigger an ISY program. I only have one of those... an odd/even date function that Elk natively supports, but ISY pre-v5 does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostolakisl Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I have an f4 key set to do something like that. In elk, i have a rule that when you activate f4, it toggles output 110 (you can pick any of the high number outputs that don't actually connect to anything and use it as a flag). In the keyapd setup screen, I have f4 illumination set to the status of output 110. So f4 is lit when output 110 is on and f4 key serves to toggle 110 on and off. Then in ISY, I have the state of output 110 trigger programs as needed. You could have an elk rule set to directly control insteon devices, but I prefer to use ISY for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giesen Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 My preference is to do anything lighting/irrigation/general home automation on the ISY. Anything security/life safety/property safety related should be done on the Elk, IMHO Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcodger Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 My preference is to do anything lighting/irrigation/general home automation on the ISY. Anything security/life safety/property safety related should be done on the Elk, IMHO Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk I have for years tried to design things in a manner similar to how humans are designed: Thinking / reasoning / communication = brain (lights, entertainment, logic) Breathing / heart / body temp = brain stem (security / HVAC) Gives me far fewer worries when away from home. Granted, though, I developed this approach when I used Homeseer because PCs have a tendency to flake out and crash every so often and I fell out of love with later versions of that software (still use, but for only one thing and hoping to replace that with a RPi). The ISY has actually been almost as reliable as the Elk, so in a whole different (and better) class than a PC. Except for PLM, in fact, it's about as bulletproof as the Elk (and my PLM has actually been surprisingly solid, knock on wood, for about five years now!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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