ScottAvery Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 I have moved to a new house and not brought any of my original devices with me other than a few plug-in modules. I am wondering what would be the best way to start the new install. I have a 994i IR Pro to which I added the Zwave module and it is subscribed to the UDI Portal service. It was a first generation 994i from when 99i was still available - when I added the Zwave module I had to change the case for the wiring to fit. Has there been a hardware revision that might lead me to want to buy a new one instead? If not, I am wondering how I wipe it and start fresh. Concerns: What is the correct procedure to reset? What settings do I want to write down and reenter? (I have backups, just in case) What parts of portal and Amazon configuration procedures do I need to repeat? Anything to look out for? The new house has over 90 switches, so I will not be replacing them all, but as the days are growing shorter I am anxious not to come home to a dark house and want to get a few installed as soon as possible.
Teken Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) I have moved to a new house and not brought any of my original devices with me other than a few plug-in modules. I am wondering what would be the best way to start the new install. I have a 994i IR Pro to which I added the Zwave module and it is subscribed to the UDI Portal service. It was a first generation 994i from when 99i was still available - when I added the Zwave module I had to change the case for the wiring to fit. Has there been a hardware revision that might lead me to want to buy a new one instead? If not, I am wondering how I wipe it and start fresh. Concerns: What is the correct procedure to reset? What settings do I want to write down and reenter? (I have backups, just in case) What parts of portal and Amazon configuration procedures do I need to repeat? Anything to look out for? The new house has over 90 switches, so I will not be replacing them all, but as the days are growing shorter I am anxious not to come home to a dark house and want to get a few installed as soon as possible. Hello Scott Avery, If you're committed in hard resetting the ISY Series Controller you may follow this process here: http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Resetting_Your_ISY All new hardware should be hard reset per the Insteon full users manual for those specific products at hand. Assuming none of the hardware has been installed ensure you follow best practices by taking a photo of all the hardware production date, revision, location, etc. For me best practices has been to simply down load the full PDF manual for any of the products and edit that document to include all of the above including purchase date, install date, and ISY firmware indicated by the controller. Appending a small photo of the hardware location also is very helpful. All of this same information can be appended to the ISY Series Controller in the *Notes* section for a quick at a glance. Make one of these and your life and install process will be easy and seamless: Edited November 17, 2017 by Teken 2
ScottAvery Posted November 17, 2017 Author Posted November 17, 2017 Hello Scott Avery, If you're committed in hard resetting the ISY Series Controller you may follow this process here: http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Resetting_Your_ISY All new hardware should be hard reset per the Insteon full users manual for those specific products at hand. Assuming none of the hardware has been installed ensure you follow best practices by taking a photo of all the hardware production date, revision, location, etc. For me best practices has been to simply down load the full PDF manual for any of the products and edit that document to include all of the above including purchase date, install date, and ISY firmware indicated by the controller. Appending a small photo of the hardware location also is very helpful. All of this same information can be appended to the ISY Series Controller in the *Notes* section for a quick at a glance. Make one of these and your life and install process will be easy and seamless: Thanks for the advice. One thing I will have to check before I wipe is if I have any programs I want to keep. Most of them are timers or listeners for double taps or the like, but I think there may be some thermostat/fan control items to copy. Photos of the backs of devices makes sense, although a spreadsheet may be more practical for future use. I'm not quite organized enough to ever take advantage of the photos. I assume you meant to write down the Insteon firmware version of each device rather than the ISY version. When you say "Notes section", do you mean in the notes field within the ISY interface or in a user manual file? I do have a cable to do bench installs of the devices before wiring them in, but I don't have those fancy lever lock terminal blocks. I have not found a cost effective source for them. It was probably one of your threads long ago where I first saw them. What name should I search for to find them in bulk?
Teken Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) Thanks for the advice. One thing I will have to check before I wipe is if I have any programs I want to keep. Most of them are timers or listeners for double taps or the like, but I think there may be some thermostat/fan control items to copy. Photos of the backs of devices makes sense, although a spreadsheet may be more practical for future use. I'm not quite organized enough to ever take advantage of the photos. I assume you meant to write down the Insteon firmware version of each device rather than the ISY version. When you say "Notes section", do you mean in the notes field within the ISY interface or in a user manual file? I do have a cable to do bench installs of the devices before wiring them in, but I don't have those fancy lever lock terminal blocks. I have not found a cost effective source for them. It was probably one of your threads long ago where I first saw them. What name should I search for to find them in bulk? Hello Scott Avery, - ISY Firmware: Correct what the system indicates is the Insteon firmware on board of the hardware - Programs & Network Resources: You can export just those two items if you need to. - Notes: In the device tree simply right mouse click and scroll to notes. There you can enter what ever from hardware production, revision, install, etc - Patch Cable: You will simply Google for Wago 222-413 those are the 3 prong type. Edited November 17, 2017 by Teken 2
ScottAvery Posted November 17, 2017 Author Posted November 17, 2017 Hello Scott Avery, - ISY Firmware: Correct what the system indicates is the Insteon firmware on board of the hardware - Programs & Network Resources: You can export just those two items if you need to. - Notes: In the device tree simply right mouse click and scroll to notes. There you can enter what ever from hardware production, revision, install, etc - Patch Cable: You will simply Google for Wago 222-413 those are the 3 prong type. Thanks, I found the Wago name finally after going through a bunch of knock-off results and it triggered my memory. Searched here and found a nice HATE thread on non-twist-cap terminators: https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/22113-anyone-use-these-sort-of-wire-connectors-before/?hl=wago Do you use these in your electrical boxes or just for your bench?
Teken Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 Thanks, I found the Wago name finally after going through a bunch of knock-off results and it triggered my memory. Searched here and found a nice HATE thread on non-twist-cap terminators: https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/22113-anyone-use-these-sort-of-wire-connectors-before/?hl=wago Do you use these in your electrical boxes or just for your bench? A mix of the two as the Wago lever nuts are deceptively larger than a standard twist Marrette / Wire Nut. Depending upon the type and size of the JBOX the Wago can impact the amount of room you have in the box. I use them extensively on the bench and it should be noted one of the long time forum members Apols (sp) offered an improvement over the current test harness I use now. That is to place a switch in line so it would allow you to remove power with out the need to unplug the outlet. That is something I've done too on another test harness which really speeds up adding and removing devices when hundreds are in place. 1
ScottAvery Posted November 17, 2017 Author Posted November 17, 2017 A mix of the two as the Wago lever nuts are deceptively larger than a standard twist Marrette / Wire Nut. Depending upon the type and size of the JBOX the Wago can impact the amount of room you have in the box. I use them extensively on the bench and it should be noted one of the long time forum members Apols (sp) offered an improvement over the current test harness I use now. That is to place a switch in line so it would allow you to remove power with out the need to unplug the outlet. That is something I've done too on another test harness which really speeds up adding and removing devices when hundreds are in place. Yeah, a had thought about a switch as well since I have piles of them, and mounting it to a board with a long terminal block so I could do 10 at a time. A couple 5 connector Wagos would make it really easy to do 4, but for a 1 minute operation I could get by with some sort of spring clip instead of a locking lever.
Teken Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 Yeah, a had thought about a switch as well since I have piles of them, and mounting it to a board with a long terminal block so I could do 10 at a time. A couple 5 connector Wagos would make it really easy to do 4, but for a 1 minute operation I could get by with some sort of spring clip instead of a locking lever. It only makes sense to work with the resources on hand. If this is just a casual once in awhile task. A old cord and twist nuts are perfectly fine. When you're doing this sort of thing repetitively Wago or similar makes sense! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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