Trouble with a simple scene

[Michaelv]

I am trying to control some “ALL OFF “Scenes with ISY 99 Programs.

 

For Instance, I have 5-10 SLDs in a scene. All of them responders. In the scene, I have all the ON LEVELs set to 0. I create a program that reads like this:

 

If

Control 'KP@Mud Entry to Kitchen' is switched Fast Off

 

Then

Set Scene 'Kitchen/Desk All Off' Off

 

Else

- No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

 

Nothing Happens

 

What am I doing wrong?

[MikeB]

Hi Michael -

 

'Fast Off' is a double-tap OFF - is that your intention?

 

First try to turn the scene off through the Admin Console. If it works, then test your program by changing it to OFF instead of FAST OFF. Make sure that when you press that KPL button OFF, that the Admin Console shows it as OFF.

[Michaelv]

Hi Mike,

 

Yes fast off, double tap, is my intention. I can make the scene work through the admin console, not with the actual SLD. As I mentioned, I have a number of these “All off†programs controlling several SLD in different rooms. I have created scenes with all of the SLD’s or SLR’s as responders. Some of these scenes may have a KPL button as a controller for additional control from a KPL but most just have responders. Might that be causing the issue? As you suggested, I changed the trigger for one of the scenes from fast off to off. Some of the lights turn off but not all. I had to press the switch 3 times to get everything to turn off. Does that tell you anything?

 

Thanks

 

MV

[MikeB]

You mention trying to control it from a SLD, but your program above looks like it's for a KPL. Are you trying to trigger this program from a KeypadLinc or a SwitchLinc Dimmer?

 

Does the ISY reliably recognize presses from this device? If you watch the Admin Console and try FAST ONs and FAST OFFs at the device, does the Admin Console update accordingly?

 

If some devices are responding and others are not, it indicates a communication issue from your PLM to the devices.

 

As a test, try adding a WAIT command to your THEN statement, right before turning the scene OFF. Try a few seconds. This will make sure you don't have Insteon traffic colliding on the powerline.

[gwarthur]

I am also running an 'all lights off' program. It turns off any lights inadvertently left on in my basement. All of them are linked to a KPL at the top of the stairs.

 

My approach was to create a scene that sets all of the basement devices to OFF, timed to run every morning around 2 AM.

 

But to run the scene and turn the devices OFF, I have to set the scene to ON, which seems to confuse the KPL; I always find (the same) two buttons lit each morning, even though all of the devices they control are OFF.

 

Is there another way to do this? Or is there a detail I've overlooked that I could modify to eliminate this benign but irritating daily reminder of my programming ineptitude? -George

[Sub-Routine]

Is there any reason you aren't turning the scene Off using your program?

 

Or you could create a scene with just the two KPL buttons and follow the main scene On command with another action to turn the button scene off.

 

Rand

[gwarthur]

Is there any reason you aren't turning the scene Off using your program?

 

Rand

 

I just figured that to make a scene run - even one that just turns things off - you have to turn the scene ON. Your suggestion that I turn the scene OFF to keep the KPL's indicator light status correct makes sense. Tried it and it works. Thanks for pointing that out.