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v.5.0.14 and the 2441TH Themostat


Alan M

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Probably me, but when I upgraded to v.5.0.14, thought everything went pretty well (even got back the Z-Wave stuff easily enough).  Looks like I can see and control the 2441TH, but am having a bit of an issue seeing the current Heat/Cool State on the Administrative Console.  Pretty sure that everything else seems to be working as expected (programs, etc) post upgrade.  Any ideas?

Thanks in advance for any inputs.

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Michel,

Sorry to have not responded earlier, the indications of heating/cooling do show up on the thermostats themselves.

Enabled the notify me of replies, so I don't end up getting sidetracked again.

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Hi Michel,

Yes, the Temperature does change, as does the humidity.  Though, I also noticed that when the Options button is selected, a checkbox pops up requesting a confirmation of Report Humidty (sic), which when checked does not seem to remember it was checked... Minor nit.

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Removed and added.  No change in behavior.  Still not seeing any Heat/Cool state information, not seeing Cool Ctl or Heat Ctl information.  The Thermostat is v.10 (just another data point).

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Michel,

I take it back (obviously, I'm too darned impatient).  Looks like dropping and adding was the solution.  Am now seeing Idle in the Heat/Cool State.

Thank you very much for the fix, will probably have to do same for a few other oddly behaving devices.  Very grateful for your time and patience with me.

Alan

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Figure I'll weigh in as I just replaced an older version of the 2441TH (V1.3 3512) with a new one (v2.1 4218) as the old one did not send out any updates and had to be queried for everything.

I removed the old tstat and installed the new, then added the new to the ISY (at which point it added three nodes, Main, Cool Ctl and Heat Ctl). I then did a replace of the old with the new, at which time, the Heat Ctl and Cool Ctl nodes disappeared. I deleted and then added back the thermostat and then all three nodes showed again.

I will watch/observe more closely, but I don't believe the temperature is updating automatically on the admin console (not sure about the humidity which I enabled reporting in the options). I'll let you know what I see with this.

Is it expected to have the temperature and humidity automatically updated? I thought this was one of the advantages of the newer version of the tstat (and is one of the reasons I "upgraded").

EDIT: Another thing I potentially wanted to use was performing actions based on when the tstat started/stopped heating/cooling (e.g. ceiling fans). I tested this using the Heat Ctl (on/off) as well at the Main node's state (heating/idle) and both of those are working/being reported as expected (just having emails sent right now as confirmation).

EDIT2: If the tstats do send out temperature/humidity updates automatically, what does that traffic look like (in the event viewer/device communications)? Is there a way to determine what temperature/humidity it's sending?

EDIT3: So it appears the humidity is updated (in admin console), but not the temperature.

Here I see an update of the humidity in the device communications (50.59.AE is the tstat):

Thu 03/07/2019 01:14:24 PM : [INST-SRX    ] 02 50 50.59.AE 4A.A3.36 05 6F 24           (24)
Thu 03/07/2019 01:14:24 PM : [Std-Direct  ] 50.59.AE-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=1
Thu 03/07/2019 01:14:24 PM : [D2D EVENT   ] Event [50 59 AE 1] [CLIHUM] [36] uom=22 prec=0
Thu 03/07/2019 01:14:24 PM : [  50 59 AE 1]   CLIHUM  36 (uom=22 prec=0)

I then did a query of the tstat which if I recall correctly updated both humidity and temp:
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:55 PM : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 50 59 AE 1F 2E 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 92 96
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:55 PM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 50.59.AE 1F 2E 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 92 96 06        (02)
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:55 PM : [INST-SRX    ] 02 50 50.59.AE 4A.A3.36 2F 2E 02           (02)
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:56 PM : [Std-Direct Ack] 50.59.AE-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:56 PM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 50 59 AE 4A A3 36 15 2E 02 01 04 0D 15 00 20 50 23 00 DF 80 48 18 C3 
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:56 PM : [Ext-Direct  ] 50.59.AE-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=1
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:56 PM : [D2D EVENT   ] Event [50 59 AE 1] [CLIHUM] [35] uom=22 prec=0
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:56 PM : [  50 59 AE 1]   CLIHUM  35 (uom=22 prec=0)
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:56 PM : [INST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 50 59 AE 1F 2E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D2
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:57 PM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 50.59.AE 1F 2E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D2 06        (00)
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:57 PM : [INST-SRX    ] 02 50 50.59.AE 4A.A3.36 2F 2E 00           (00)
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:57 PM : [Std-Direct Ack] 50.59.AE-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:58 PM : [INST-ERX    ] 02 51 50 59 AE 4A A3 36 15 2E 00 00 01 00 DF 23 05 44 02 00 0A 05 04 00 00 
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:58 PM : [Ext-Direct  ] 50.59.AE-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=1
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:58 PM : [INST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 50 59 AE 0F 6A 00
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:58 PM : [INST-ACK    ] 02 62 50.59.AE 0F 6A 00 06                 (00)
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:58 PM : [INST-SRX    ] 02 50 50.59.AE 4A.A3.36 2F 6A 90           (90)
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:58 PM : [Std-Direct Ack] 50.59.AE-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:58 PM : [D2D EVENT   ] Event [50 59 AE 1] [ST] [144] uom=101 prec=0
Thu 03/07/2019 01:20:58 PM : [  50 59 AE 1]       ST 144 (uom=101 prec=0)
 

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