jaycanter Posted November 6, 2010 Posted November 6, 2010 I had 1 of my md send out a low battery signal and replaced the battery and can not get the current state from on back to off, how do i do that. also how do you replace a switch? i have changed out several switches with new 1s and i have to delete the old switch then install the new 1. the reprogram every program that it is in. Is there a easier way? Thanks Jay
LeeG Posted November 6, 2010 Posted November 6, 2010 Regarding the Motion Sensor Low Battery status, put the Motion Sensor into linking mode by pressing the Set button for 4-5 seconds. Then click on Set Options under the Low Battery node. The Event Viewer trace looks like the battery status is retrieved when the Motion Sensor options are retrieved. Cancel the options display pop-up. Should be no need to change any setting. Post back if that does not work and I will look for some other way. I am running 2.8.4.
jaycanter Posted November 6, 2010 Author Posted November 6, 2010 That's what i did but it is still showing on so i tried another battery and still shows on.
LeeG Posted November 6, 2010 Posted November 6, 2010 What ISY firmware are you running? It looks like the Low Battery logic was added in the 2.8.x update that added support for additional Motion Sensor options. Went back to 2.7.15 where the Low Battery node was NOT updated. reinstalled 2.8.4 where Low Battery node is updated.
LeeG Posted November 6, 2010 Posted November 6, 2010 Is this a V2 Motion Sensor? Is Jumper 5 in place? Run Tools ! Diagnostics ! Event Viewer and select Change Level 3 Put Motion Sensor into linking mode. Click on the Set Options button. Post the Event Viewer trace. Let’s see if the Motion Sensor is still saying battery is low.
jaycanter Posted November 7, 2010 Author Posted November 7, 2010 yes version 2 and jumper 5 in place. heres the results Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:32 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 13.F0.BA 00.00.01 CB 13 01 LTOFFRR(01) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:32 AM : [standard-Group][13.F0.BA-->Group=1] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:32 AM : [ 13 F0 BA 1] DOF 1 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:32 AM : [ 13 F0 BA 1] ST 0 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:32 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 13.F0.BA 00.00.01 CB 13 01 LTOFFRR(01) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:32 AM : [standard-Group][13.F0.BA-->Group=1] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:32 AM : Duplicate: ignored Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:32 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 13.F0.BA 00.00.01 CB 13 01 LTOFFRR(01): Process Message: failed Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:32 AM : [standard-Group][13.F0.BA-->Group=1] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:32 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 13.F0.BA 13.24.88 41 13 01 LTOFFRR(01) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:32 AM : [standard-Cleanup][13.F0.BA-->ISY/PLM Group=1] Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:37 AM : [13 F0 BA 3 ] Using engine version i2 for 'Bathroom Motion-Low Bat' Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:37 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 13.F0.BA 1F 2F 00 00 00 00 07 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:37 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 13.F0.BA 13.24.88 2B 2F 00 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:37 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][13.F0.BA-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:37 AM : [iNST-ERX ] 02 51 13 F0 BA 13 24 88 11 2F 00 00 01 00 07 01 50 10 01 34 04 32 00 7D 00 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:37 AM : [Extended-Direct][13.F0.BA-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:37 AM : [13 F0 BA 1 ] Using engine version i2 for 'Bathroom Motion-Sensor' Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:37 AM : [13 F0 BA 1 ] Link 0 : 0FF8 [E201132488FF1F01] Writing [E201132488FF1F01] Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:37 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 13.F0.BA 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:38 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 13.F0.BA 13.24.88 2B 2F 00 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:38 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][13.F0.BA-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:38 AM : [iNST-ERX ] 02 51 13 F0 BA 13 24 88 11 2F 00 00 01 0F FF 01 E2 01 13 24 88 FF 1F 01 00 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:38 AM : [Extended-Direct][13.F0.BA-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:38 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 13.F0.BA 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F FF 08 E2 01 13 24 88 FF 1F 01 00 06 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:39 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 13.F0.BA 13.24.88 2B 2F 00 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:39 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][13.F0.BA-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:39 AM : [MNG-LNK-RSP ] 02 6F 41 A2 01 13 F0 BA 10 01 00 15 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:39 AM : [PLM ] Group 1 : Writing Responder Link matching [13 F0 BA 1 ] Link 0 : 0FF8 [E201132488FF1F01] Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:39 AM : [13 F0 BA 1 ] Using engine version i2 for 'Bathroom Motion-Sensor' Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:39 AM : [13 F0 BA 1 ] Link 1 : 0FF0 [E202132488FF1F02] Writing [E202132488FF1F02] Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:40 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 13.F0.BA 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F F7 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:40 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 13.F0.BA 13.24.88 2B 2F 00 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:40 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][13.F0.BA-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:41 AM : [iNST-ERX ] 02 51 13 F0 BA 13 24 88 11 2F 00 00 01 0F F7 01 E2 02 13 24 88 FF 1F 02 00 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:41 AM : [Extended-Direct][13.F0.BA-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:41 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 13.F0.BA 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F F7 08 E2 02 13 24 88 FF 1F 02 00 06 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:41 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 13.F0.BA 13.24.88 2B 2F 00 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:41 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][13.F0.BA-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:41 AM : [MNG-LNK-RSP ] 02 6F 41 A2 02 13 F0 BA 10 01 00 15 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:41 AM : [PLM ] Group 2 : Writing Responder Link matching [13 F0 BA 1 ] Link 1 : 0FF0 [E202132488FF1F02] Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:41 AM : [13 F0 BA 1 ] Using engine version i2 for 'Bathroom Motion-Sensor' Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:41 AM : [13 F0 BA 1 ] Link 2 : 0FE8 [E203132488FF1F03] Writing [E203132488FF1F03] Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:42 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 13.F0.BA 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F EF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:42 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 13.F0.BA 13.24.88 2B 2F 00 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:42 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][13.F0.BA-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:43 AM : [iNST-ERX ] 02 51 13 F0 BA 13 24 88 11 2F 00 00 01 0F EF 01 E2 03 13 24 88 FF 1F 03 00 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:43 AM : [Extended-Direct][13.F0.BA-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:43 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 13.F0.BA 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F EF 08 E2 03 13 24 88 FF 1F 03 00 06 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:43 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 13.F0.BA 13.24.88 2B 2F 00 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:43 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][13.F0.BA-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:44 AM : [MNG-LNK-RSP ] 02 6F 41 A2 03 13 F0 BA 10 01 00 15 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:44 AM : [PLM ] Group 3 : Writing Responder Link matching [13 F0 BA 1 ] Link 2 : 0FE8 [E203132488FF1F03] Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:44 AM : [ 13 F0 BA 1] Removing remaining links Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:44 AM : [13 F0 BA 1 ] Using engine version i2 for 'Bathroom Motion-Sensor' Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:44 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 13.F0.BA 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F E7 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:44 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 13.F0.BA 13.24.88 2B 2F 00 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:44 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][13.F0.BA-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:45 AM : [iNST-ERX ] 02 51 13 F0 BA 13 24 88 11 2F 00 00 01 0F E7 01 00 01 13 F3 8A FF 1F 02 00 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:45 AM : [Extended-Direct][13.F0.BA-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:45 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 13.F0.BA 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F E7 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:46 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 13.F0.BA 13.24.88 2B 2F 00 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:46 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][13.F0.BA-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:46 AM : [iNST-ERX ] 02 51 13 F0 BA 13 24 88 11 2F 00 00 01 0F E7 01 00 01 13 F3 8A FF 1F 02 00 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:46 AM : [Extended-Direct][13.F0.BA-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:46 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 13.F0.BA 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F E7 08 00 01 13 F3 8A FF 1F 02 00 06 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:47 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 13.F0.BA 13.24.88 2B 2F 00 (00) Sun 11/07/2010 11:06:47 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][13.F0.BA-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2
LeeG Posted November 7, 2010 Posted November 7, 2010 jcanter Thanks for the trace. It looked like mine except for the values of specific options. I then set up the Motion Sensor with a low battery so that it would generate the Low Battery message. It did generate the Low Battery message and I could find no method for getting the MS to send the Off variant to Low Battery. Installing a new battery did not result in generating an Off message for Group 3. I’m beginning to think the MS does not generate an Off message. The only way I could get rid of the Off status was to Remove the MS and add it back. Lee
jaycanter Posted November 7, 2010 Author Posted November 7, 2010 So i have no options but to remove & replace to get rid of it?
jaycanter Posted November 7, 2010 Author Posted November 7, 2010 I just made a motion battery scene and added to low battery 1 and it went back to off for the status of the battery, then removed from the scene and alls good
Sub-Routine Posted November 8, 2010 Posted November 8, 2010 According to the programmers you should be able to Query the Low Battery node to reset.
LeeG Posted November 8, 2010 Posted November 8, 2010 I can confirm the Query of the Low Battery node does reset the node to Off. Thanks Rand. Much better than having to Remove the device.
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