mrxmas Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 I have this freaky thing going on with my lighting system, I have an ISY 99i, periodicly it (or some thing else) is sending "M/Dim 15" signals consently, therefore after is starts nothing else works. This has happened several times, about 4 or 5 times in the last month. First I thought I had a remote that was stuck and sending a signal. (this happened a couple of years ago.) But I don't have or have never had a "M" address, once 2 weeks ago it was sending a "H" signal, dont have or never have had a "H" address either. This goes on for an hour or so, or for many hours, and then just stops. Is there something else, (cordless phones, etc.) that might send that signal or something close?? I have unplugged the system, taken batteries out of all remotes, removed all x10 transmitters. and the signal is still sending. The lights on my older Smarthome Switchlinc go out and if you turn on a light manually the side bar leds blink rapidly. This is driving me crazy........
Brian H Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Are the old SwitchLincs two way or have BoosterLinc Technology features? Any active X10 coupler Repeaters in the house?
mrxmas Posted October 27, 2011 Author Posted October 27, 2011 I really dont know. Most of the older switchlincs are 2384's and some are the 2386's (2 wire with no ground) No repeaters in the house. I have went through the house and pulled the set buttons on all the switchlinc and the signal still goes on..... I believe that the only thing that I had w/boosterlinc was a keypadlinc, which has been remove and replace with a newer insteon Keypadlinc....
fitzpatri8 Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Sounds like power line noise that resembles x10 signals--x10 equipment gone bad, motors or other appliances in your or a neighboring home on the same transformer, even the power company transformer itself going bad could cause that. If the interference is inside the house, you might be able to isolate it by turning off circuit breakers until the noise goes away. I no longer deal with x10 at all except to uninstall it, so I'll leave the troubleshooting advice to folks who are bigger gluttons for punishment than I.
TJF1960 Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 mrxmas, Just to clarify, you have unplugged the ISY’s PLM and all X10 plug in receivers and the X10 signal continues? Have they all been unplugged one at a time then plugged back in and also unplugged all at the same time?
mrxmas Posted October 27, 2011 Author Posted October 27, 2011 Yes, I have unplugged the isy, plm, disabled all the switchlincs, x10 transmitters, take batteries out of all the x10 remotes, unplugged all the insteon appliancelincs, lamplincs, disabled all the older switchlics. It is crazy I have never even had any "M" address set. Once any device is plugged back in the led starts blinking. Doesnt matter which on it is.
LeeG Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 May not be an Insteon or X10 device but something generating noise that is being interpreted as an X10 signal. The House code M is all bits Off for the House code portion of the message. Any new appliances, new cell phone charger, new electronics. One approach is to turn the circuit breakers Off one at a time to see if the issue can be isolated to a particular circuit as the source. If that can be identified then unplugging devices (not Insteon or X10) on that circuit.
Brian H Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 It does sound like it maybe external interference as Lee pointed out. In the X10 forums. We see all kinds of things. One example is a cell phone charger that caused false x10 like messages. http://jvde.us/x10/x10_cellet_noise.htm We have also seen things deteriorating. Like a CFL getting close to end of life starting to be a problem. When it was fine originally.
mrxmas Posted October 28, 2011 Author Posted October 28, 2011 Ok guys, I got home around 5:15 and the signal still going on. Then around 5:35 it stopped.... That was almost 12hrs. That is what is so crazy. All of you have given me new thing to look for next time. It may be as long as a week. I did find on of my older Switchlincs that when the pin was pulled the top LED still flickerd???? It shouldnt have been doing that.... However when I turned that breaker off to see if that was the problem the signal continued.. Have any of you ever heard of a wireless router causing something like this???? We have been having to reset it alot.. Will try unplugging it next time.. It is hard to find the problem after it stops.. Thank for all the advise!!!!
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