apostolakisl Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Below is a sampling of my log showing the program that is behaving oddly. I don't know why. At times this program will run hundreds of times, sometimes it will just run a few times. I am referring to the Master keypad D. Here are the only two programs that have anything to do with that. Master Keypad D is a kpl button. I have scowered my programs making sure I don't have some orphaned program somewhere doing something, but I can't find any. I also went through my elk rules and could find any there either. The purpose of these programs is to arm the system in night mode from the kpl next to the bed and to have the led follow the status of the system. If Elk Area 'Main House' 'Arm Up State' is Armed Fully Or Elk Area 'Main House' 'Arm Up State' is Armed with Exit Timer Then Set Scene 'Master Keypad D' On Else Set Scene 'Master Keypad D' Off If Control 'Master Bedroom / Master Bedroom Keypad / Mstr Bed Key D Alarm' is switched On Then Set Elk Area 'Main House' Arm Night Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:43:17 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:43:19 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:43:20 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:43:23 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:43:25 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:43:26 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:43:29 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:43:46 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:43:50 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:43:52 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:43:53 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:44:02 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:44:03 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:44:11 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:44:14 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:44:18 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:44:19 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:44:32 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:44:34 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:44:36 PM Program Log X10 A5 Thu 2011/12/08 02:44:38 PM System Log X10 A5 On (3) Thu 2011/12/08 02:44:38 PM System Log A10 a5 1 Status 100% Thu 2011/12/08 02:44:38 PM System Log X10 A5 Thu 2011/12/08 02:44:39 PM System Log X10 A5 On (3) Thu 2011/12/08 02:44:39 PM System Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:44:41 PM Program Log X10 A6 Thu 2011/12/08 02:44:56 PM System Log X10 A6 On (3) Thu 2011/12/08 02:44:57 PM System Log A10 a6 1 Status 100% Thu 2011/12/08 02:44:57 PM System Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:45:19 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:45:23 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:45:26 PM Program Log Kitchen / Pantry-Light L Beep 100 Thu 2011/12/08 02:45:27 PM Program Log Kitchen / Pantry-Light L Beep 100 Thu 2011/12/08 02:45:27 PM Program -1 Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:45:27 PM Program Log X10 A6 Thu 2011/12/08 02:45:27 PM System Log X10 A6 Thu 2011/12/08 02:45:28 PM System Log X10 A6 On (3) Thu 2011/12/08 02:45:29 PM System Log X10 A5 Thu 2011/12/08 02:45:41 PM System Log X10 A5 Off (11) Thu 2011/12/08 02:45:41 PM System Log A10 a5 1 Status 0% Thu 2011/12/08 02:45:41 PM System Log X10 A5 Thu 2011/12/08 02:45:42 PM System Log X10 A5 Off (11) Thu 2011/12/08 02:45:42 PM System Log Kitchen / Pantry-Light L Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:45:57 PM Program Log Kitchen / Pantry-Light L Status 0% Thu 2011/12/08 02:45:58 PM System Log X10 A6 Thu 2011/12/08 02:46:31 PM System Log X10 A6 Off (11) Thu 2011/12/08 02:46:32 PM System Log A10 a6 1 Status 0% Thu 2011/12/08 02:46:32 PM System Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:47:13 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:47:15 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:47:17 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:47:21 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:47:22 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:47:24 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:47:25 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:47:27 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:47:34 PM Program Log Kitchen / Pantry-Light L Status 100% Thu 2011/12/08 02:47:35 PM System Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:47:38 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:48:45 PM Program Log X10 A6 Thu 2011/12/08 02:48:45 PM System Log X10 A6 On (3) Thu 2011/12/08 02:48:46 PM System Log A10 a6 1 Status 100% Thu 2011/12/08 02:48:46 PM System Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:48:54 PM Program Log X10 A6 Thu 2011/12/08 02:48:54 PM System Log X10 A6 Thu 2011/12/08 02:48:55 PM System Log X10 A6 On (3) Thu 2011/12/08 02:48:55 PM System Log Kitchen / Pantry-Light L Beep 100 Thu 2011/12/08 02:50:45 PM Program Log Kitchen / Pantry-Light L Beep 100 Thu 2011/12/08 02:50:45 PM Program -1 Kitchen / Pantry-Light L Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:51:15 PM Program Log Kitchen / Pantry-Light L Status 0% Thu 2011/12/08 02:51:16 PM System Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:51:30 PM Program Log Scene:Master Keypad D Off 0 Thu 2011/12/08 02:51:45 PM Program Log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jahn Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Hi apostolakisl, I tried these programs and they work fine for me, they would never loop in any way. Its possible this was a bug that was incidently fixed in the new build (not yet out), or you may have missed something. Questions: - Did your program work for awhile and then start to fail (loop), or did it always loop whenever you tried it? - Was there a lot of Elk activity while this happened? For debugging: - In program summary, you could also sort by last run time, to see if any other programs are being run while its looping. - You could try incrementing a variable where you are doing 'Keypad D' Off. By watching the variable, you could verify whether or not that program is the one doing all the 'Keypad D' Off commands. Else Set Scene 'Master Keypad D' Off $Int_temp += 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostolakisl Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 OK, I added the counter in there. It ran up to 77. I tried dropping the exit timer part and will test it out that way. I'm getting a headache right now so it will have to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostolakisl Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 I reset the counter right after I wrote the last post to 0. I just checked it, it is now 100. It does not appear to be a loop, it appears that this program just keeps triggering even though the alarm state is not changing. The alarm has been off the entire time. It seems to run in little bursts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostolakisl Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 OK, I think I have something here. Every time I open a door or cause an elk zone to change, I get a bunch more hits. It appears that this program is getting triggered with ever Elk status update, not just armed status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jahn Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I think I found the problem. The arm up status changes every time you trigger a zone, usually from "Ready to Arm" to "Not Ready to Arm", and then back again. Therefore in your case, anytime you trip one of the zones, its causing the Else to run. I think the simplest solution would be to use two programs, and not use the Else clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose66 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Another excellent example of how the programming structure of the ISY 99i is not friendly to ELSE statements. It is almost universally a bad idea to put anything in an ELSE on the ISY. (Not even going to suggest the alternative) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostolakisl Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 Another excellent example of how the programming structure of the ISY 99i is not friendly to ELSE statements. It is almost universally a bad idea to put anything in an ELSE on the ISY. (Not even going to suggest the alternative) It is all about triggers. Controlling what triggers a program is the key. Ideally there would be a drop down for every "if" statement that let you control whether it is a trigger on true, trigger on any, or never a trigger. I wrote the program as two making both function only to the "then" statement. I think it should solve the problem and get rid of all that needless traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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