hopco Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 My first post: I have two issues: 1) About half the Insteon house lights (10) turn off daily at about 4:51:50 and 5:11:45 daily. I have no events programmed or scheduled at that time and as the off time remains within a 20 second range, I do not believe it is related to a Sunset delay time. I am running ISY 99i (1020) through and Insteon UD99 v 2.8.16 (or so it says on my Universal Devices 'About' panel.) I bought same through SmartHome. I have captured these off sequences over several days (and if it goes on further my wife . . . Let It just be said it won’t be fun.) See the two sets of sequences below. I have looked all over my program details and have come to the end of a Box Canyon. Can I get guidance as to how to go forward? 2) I have two 6 button KeypadLinc (‘KPL’) in the Kitchen that control scenes in the Kitchen area (incl. laundry and breakfast areas. The North KPL (‘NKPL’), 286D v.36, is a relay switch for fluorescent lights. Scenes controlled by the South KPL (‘SKPL’) and the remaining buttons on the NKPL are controllers of ten different scene consisting of various settings of seven sets of lights. The SKPL button/light combos work correctly for all the scene settings work correctly for six sets of lights. However, the NKPL scenes only turn on the Sunroom lamps in two of the five scenes it controls. In those two scenes, I programmed the lamp to be dimmed to the 60% level. Nevertheless, in all five scenes the Sunroom lights come on at a 100% level. I am bewildered as to why? Thanks in advance for the sage advice. Best John This sequence is most likely manually set, for there is no ‘ON’ programming for these lights. Fri 12/09/2011 04:29:06 PM : [ 13 90 E3 1] DON 0 Kitchen: DL Outside Fri 12/09/2011 04:29:06 PM : [ 13 90 E3 1] ST 132 Kitchen: DL Outside Fri 12/09/2011 04:29:06 PM : [ 13 90 19 1] DON 0 Kitchen DLs – Inside – In Kitchen Scene Fri 12/09/2011 04:29:06 PM : [ 13 90 19 1] ST 132 Kitchen DLs – Inside – In Kitchen Scene Fri 12/09/2011 04:29:25 PM : [ 13 88 A1 1] DON 0 Kitchen: Sun-Room Overhead Fri 12/09/2011 04:29:25 PM : [ 13 88 A1 1] ST 153 Kitchen: Sun-Room Overhead (sun room comes on at a dimmed level from SKPL) Fri 12/09/2011 04:30:35 PM : [ 1A 3E CF 1] DON 0 LL BedRoom DL Fri 12/09/2011 04:30:35 PM : [ 1A 3E CF 1] ST 255 LL BedRoom DL First Lights OFF ________________________________________ -- FRIDAY 12/09/11 Fri 12/09/2011 04:51:36 PM : [ 1A 45 9C 1] ST 0 Foyer East DLights Fri 12/09/2011 04:51:36 PM : [ 1A 3C 75 1] ST 0 Foyer West DLights Fri 12/09/2011 04:51:36 PM : [ 19 F5 66 1] ST 0 Back Stairs Fri 12/09/2011 04:51:36 PM : [ 19 E7 66 1] ST 0 Outside: Japanese Coach Lamps Fri 12/09/2011 04:51:36 PM : [ 13 90 E3 1] ST 0 Kitchen: DL Outside Fri 12/09/2011 04:51:36 PM : [ 13 C2 A9 1] ST 0 N-KPL – Laundry FLR Fri 12/09/2011 04:51:36 PM : [ 1A 3E CF 1] ST 0 LL Bedroom DL Fri 12/09/2011 04:51:36 PM : [ 1A 45 60 1] ST 0 Study: DL Fri 12/09/2011 04:51:36 PM : [ 18 BD 59 1] ST 0 Study: Table Lamp (East) ________________________________________ First Lights OFF --MONDAY 12/12/11 Mon 12/12/2011 04:51:50 PM : [ 1A 45 9C 1] ST 0 Mon 12/12/2011 04:51:50 PM : [ 1A 3C 75 1] ST 0 Mon 12/12/2011 04:51:50 PM : [ 19 F5 66 1] ST 0 Mon 12/12/2011 04:51:50 PM : [ 19 E7 66 1] ST 0 Mon 12/12/2011 04:51:50 PM : [ 13 90 E3 1] ST 0 Mon 12/12/2011 04:51:50 PM : [ 1A 3E CF 1] ST 0 Mon 12/12/2011 04:51:50 PM : [ 1A 45 60 1] ST 0 Mon 12/12/2011 04:51:50 PM : [ 18 BD 59 1] ST 0 ________________________________________ The following looks like one or more people going around house manually turning the lights back on. Fri 12/09/2011 04:51:40 PM : [ 1A 43 41 1] DON 0 Garage Overhead Remote Fri 12/09/2011 04:51:40 PM : [ 1A 43 41 1] ST 153 Garage Overhead Remote Fri 12/09/2011 04:51:41 PM : [ 1A 43 41 1] DOF 0 Garage Overhead Remote Fri 12/09/2011 04:51:41 PM : [ 1A 43 41 1] ST 0 Garage Overhead Remote Fri 12/09/2011 04:52:06 PM : [ 1A 3E CF 1] DON 0 LL Bed Room DL Fri 12/09/2011 04:52:06 PM : [ 1A 3E CF 1] ST 255 LL Bed Room DL Fri 12/09/2011 04:54:24 PM : [ 13 C2 A9 3] DON 0 Kitchen – KEYPADLINC North – Button B or C ________________________________________ And then this for the second lights out: Second lights OFF Sequence from Thursday 12/8/11 Thu 12/08/2011 05:11:40 PM : [ 1A 45 9C 1] ST 0 Foyer East DLights Thu 12/08/2011 05:11:40 PM : [ 1A 3C 75 1] ST 0 Foyer West DLights Thu 12/08/2011 05:11:40 PM : [ 19 F5 66 1] ST 0 Back Stairs Thu 12/08/2011 05:11:40 PM : [ 19 E7 66 1] ST 0 Outside: Japanese Coach Lamps Thu 12/08/2011 05:11:40 PM : [ 13 90 E3 1] ST 0 Kitchen: DL Outside Thu 12/08/2011 05:11:40 PM : [ 1A 3E CF 1] ST 0 LL Bedroom DL Thu 12/08/2011 05:11:40 PM : [ 1A 45 60 1] ST 0 Study: DL Thu 12/08/2011 05:11:40 PM : [ 18 BD 59 1] ST 0 Study: Table Lamp (East ________________________________________ Second lights OFF Sequence from MONDAY 12/12/11 Mon 12/12/2011 05:11:49 PM : [ 1A 45 9C 1] ST 0 Mon 12/12/2011 05:11:49 PM : [ 1A 3C 75 1] ST 0 Mon 12/12/2011 05:11:49 PM : [ 19 F5 66 1] ST 0 Mon 12/12/2011 05:11:49 PM : [ 13 90 E3 1] ST 0 Mon 12/12/2011 05:11:49 PM : [ 13 C2 A9 1] ST 0 Mon 12/12/2011 05:11:49 PM : [ 1A 45 60 1] ST 0 Mon 12/12/2011 05:11:49 PM : [ 18 BD 59 1] ST 0 ________________________________________ The following looks like one or more people going around house manually turning the lights back on for the Second Time. Fri 12/09/2011 05:12:07 PM : [ 1A 3E CF 1] DON 0 Fri 12/09/2011 05:12:07 PM : [ 1A 3E CF 1] ST 255 Fri 12/09/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeG Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Nice data collection. Unfortunately the trace is showing result not cause. Set the Event Viewer Level: to Device communications events ahead of the time these are expected. That should give some information as to why. Edit: tell the better half it is the ghost of Christmas past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopco Posted December 18, 2011 Author Share Posted December 18, 2011 Thanks LeeG Here goes with a trace of today - which I have attached. I also attached a run from yesterday (12/16). They are rather longer than the traces I posted within the forum, but I wanted to give y0u the flavor of whats going on. I hope my formatting keys and colors you in on the appropriate areas. Thanks for your help. John 11-17-11 All lights went out at Abt 5PM ISY-Events-2c .zip 11-16-11 All lights went out at Abt 5PM ISY-Events .zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeG Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 The devices are being turned Off with an ISY Scene. The Scene number is 0x1F decimal 31. There is a REST command that displays the Scenes and gives the Scene number. Have to look it up. Will post back when I figure out the correct syntax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeG Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Enter the following REST command into a browser with the IP address of you ISY. It displays all the Scene definitions. Look for one with a 31The tag has the name of the Scene. There must be a Program that is issuing a Scene Off for the Scene. http://192.168.2.2/rest/nodes/scenes/status/ Sample Scene display - 10053 Scene 53 19 - 15 9A F9 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopco Posted December 18, 2011 Author Share Posted December 18, 2011 Thanks LeeG: Spot on. I found the Scene and then noticed an unused program that was causing the fault. Will test tonight, but I am pretty sure you found the Grinch for me. Merry, Merry John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeG Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Any time. All the trace entries indicated the same ISY Scene. The detail trace produced with Device communications events traced this message... Fri 12/16/2011 04:52:28 PM : [iNSTâ€ACK ] 02 62 00.00.1F CF 13 00 06 which is a Scene control message. They are unique because the From device address is 00 00 xx where xx is the hexadecimal ISY Scene number. Converting 0x1F to decimal 31 the Scene list can be searched for a match to the 31 which gives the Scene name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopco Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 LeeG It worked perfectly - Christmas will be now peaceful about the house until the Red Suited chimney sweep visits. BTW there was no way that with my V. limited programming experience that I would have been able to debug the problem as you did. Bravo! Now there is this little other thing . . . Ah, but that can and will wait until after the Holidays. Cheers to all! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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