Unable to set device level to zero in a scene

[marksidell]

ISY 99 pro...

 

I can't seem to create a scene with some devices levels set to zero. Here's what I'm doing:

 

1. Turn off automatic writes to devices.

2. In the scene, use the sliders to set the levels for several devices to zero, with a ramp rate of 2.0 seconds. Other devices are set to levels between 0 and 100.

3. Turn on automatic writes to devices.

4. The ISY spends some time updating all of the links. After it has finished, the scene editor still shows the device levels at zero.

5. View a different scene.

6. Return to the scene just edited. Now it is showing the levels for the devices that I had set to zero back at 100. Aargh! The devices with other levels are still correct. Also, when I trigger the scene, I see that the devices that should be zero are indeed going to 100.

 

I've tried this multiple times, with several scenes, and have even deleted and recreated a scene to try to get it to work. No luck.

 

What am I doing wrong?

[LeeG]

Not all devices can be turned Off that way.

 

What are the device types that do not remain at 0%?

[marksidell]

Here are the devices I am trying to set to off/level 0 in a scene:

 

switchlinc dimmer

appliancelinc

lamplinc

 

In HouseLinc, I can create exactly the same scenes (aka Links) that I am trying to create with the ISY -- where the levels for various devices are set to "off", and it works fine. Why can't I do it with the ISY?

[LeeG]

What ISY firmware is being used?

[LeeG]

Do not turn Off updates. Change the slider for the ApplianceLinc Responder On Level to 0%. Does a Progress Bar appear after the mouse button is released?

 

Is there more than one Controller (ISY PLM is always a Controller) for the Scene?

[marksidell]

A progress bar does NOT appear when I slide the level for an appliancelinc to 0.

 

Yes, the scene has two other controllers: A keypadlinc and a controllinc. (FWIW, this is also the case for the HouseLinc "scene" that works correctly.)

[LeeG]

If a Progress Bar does not appear Java has not indicated a slider movement to the application. There have been cases reported where Java was not handling slider movements correctly. Be sure Java is current. Also try moving the slider to an intermediate position, release the mouse button, then move the slider to 0. Until a Progress Bar appears the Admin Console is not aware of the slider movement and not updating the responder link record.

 

I ran a test on 3.1.16 with an ApplianceLinc. A 0% On Level does turn the ApplianceLinc Off when the Admin Console is aware of the slider movement.

 

What ISY firmware is being used?

[marksidell]

Wow, that was it. Moving the slider to the middle and then to zero works, for both appliance and dimmer devices. I never would have figured that out!

 

I was also able to copy the scene settings to the other two controllers. So, the zero level is finally getting saved correctly.

 

I had to install java on my computer to run the ISY console, so I know I have the latest version.

 

The ISY Help | About says ISY 99i Pro (1040).

[LeeG]

What Operating System is being used? Is that a 64 bit machine? If so was the 64 bit Java installed?

 

In other cases once the slider has been moved and that movement recognized the next movement may be okay without the intermediate stop. Seeing a Progress Bar is key. When that comes up the Admin Console has been notified of the movement.

[marksidell]

Windows XP 32-bit.

 

FWIW, in many cases I'd prefer to be able to type the levels in as numbers rather than fiddle with the sliders. OTOH, being able to use the slider to adjust the current levels of all of the devices to get a scene just right is pretty cool.

 

Thanks for your help, and speedy replies!