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i3 lol, Insteon is getting big for its britches are they? I see they have a new hub. I’m so glad I skipped their last iteration. I remember when the UDI portal launched. I hooked up my “Barry White” scene with “Alexa, let’s get it on!” It was like the angels singing, voice command like you’d only see in the movies. While the portal was nice for a couple of years, I eventually off loaded to HomeAssistant. While UDI has the only viable solution for programming Insteon switches to work together without a hub, there’s too many workarounds needed for my likes. But it’s nice to know that if push comes to shove, I can just throw some money at the problem and get my network running again. Fortunately, as long as there are houses with Insteon switches, and they pay to keep the lights on this place will outlive me.

Is this not an issue for anyone else? It makes any attempt to use a folder hierarchy practically impractical. Replacing dead switches is a royal pain in the ***. It shouldn’t be. ETA: disability issues compound the problems.

Coming from an ISY994i perspective, what am I gaining by moving to eisy? Please don’t give the marketing pitch. Speed, performance,chipset, HDMI port, etc. The hardware platform doesn’t interest me whatsoever compared to the software. What is my experience going to be like? I’m only interested in maintaining my Insteon devices. Not interested in Zwave, Zigbee, Matter, Thread, or any other dongle tech. At least not eisy approach. I’m all about managing my Insteon network. Adding, removing, linking devices creating scenes etc. Is eisy running a Java app built from what the ISY used? Is it the same look and feel as the Java app? If there was a delay in showing a menu when doing a “right click” in the ISY gui, will that also be in eisy gui? If one were critical of the ISY gui, will they be likely to be critical of the eisy? Can you easily replace Insteon dimmer switches? Do you have to remove an item from it’s folder before you can issue the replace command?

After last weeks lightning strike fried my ISY or PLM (or both) I managed to restore an old backup of my network. All of my switches appear and they seem to have the proper links on the ISY side of things, however it seems I have a lot of switches that are not physically in my network. Thats simply due to me having replaced dead switches a time or thousand. I’ve replaced a lot of Insteon dimmer switches. Burned out / bad design, who the F knows why but it’s just the truth. So I have a lot of switches that appear to be installed but are not. I used to have to take the plates off the wall if I didn’t have a picture of the addresses, but using the original Insteon linking method by holding the paddle down will be caught by the ISY if you do a link management | start linking. A hell of a lot easier than taking plates off

Is it supposed to appear under lighting? Funny, it didn’t show until I rebooted the ISY.

I’m doing a “Start linking” then holding down my Insteon paddle for 5 seconds and I get a popup saying “device already added” and showing me the address. How can I find which node in the ISY tree that address belongs too?

So all I have to do is replace the current PLM with the new(ish) one, and do a Restore PLM?

I’ll try and skip most of the TLDR that brought me here. But after last week's lightning strike, I have a backup ISY994i running with a restored backup which is mostly an accurate representation of my Insteon network. I have about a dozen switches that have been replaced since that backup was taken, but I can live with “adding” those switches and doing a replace command. However I’m trying to do a restore devices command first, just to get updates written to my devices. But here’s the rub. Many of these devices aren’t being “seen” by the admin Java app. IIRC I had a similar problem years ago, and my solution was to bring the ISY/PLM near the devices in question, and that did the trick. Of course that meant I had to have Ethernet nearby. Back then a long cat5 cable worked. But so did a WiFi repeater. Unfortunately the GL-INET things aren’t passing my MAC address along so I can get my desired reserved ip address. It was just easier to take an old EERO router and use that as my “long cat5 cable” When I say I used my backup ISY, I used one my dad gave me when he sold his Insteon house. I used that ISY and the PLM he used together. So I restored my backup to the ISY, then restored the PLM. I’m wondering if the PLM is the culprit in the proximity issue. I also have another PLM that I bought as a backup years ago when a PLM up and died on me. I tried restoring to this PLM with my original ISY but that didn’t work. My PLM prior to the strike is 100% dead (no lights when plugged in) and I think the ISY is also toasted (couldn’t read the backup without getting errors. So I’ve got 3 PLMs. My fried 2413S rev 2.4 My backup 2413S rev 2.3 My dad’s 2412S rev 3.1 Right now I’m using the 2412S PLM, for no reason other than once upon a time it was working with the ISY I’m now using. How much better, (if at all) will the 2413S rev 2.3 work than the 2412S? Is the Dual Band going to address possible proximity issues?

Michel has been great over the years, but I wouldnt open a ticket because of the EOL. I just get frustrated how trying to find specific firmwares is a needless hassle.

This brings back unpleasant memories. My firmware is 4.5.4. In order to install 5.3 I apparently need 4.6.2 (according to the Wiki). Why the wiki doesn’t have a link to that is unfortunate. A Google search finds the wiki but not the download location of 4.6.2. Will one of you regulars point me to the download? Hey, give me credit for reading the notes before upgrading to 5.3

I have 2 ISY units, each with their own PLM. I have a backup PLM. Only 1 ISY/PLM was in use. The other was leftover stuff my dad gave me. Had a lightning strike, fried the PLM. Tried restoring a backup to the ISY and that was getting errors. Now I want to see if I can switch over to my dad’s ISY combination, restore a recent ISY backup, then restore the PLM. In the process of restoring to the ISY

I pasted some of the event viewer to : https://bpa.st/ID4Q What is it with that 10A47F address? Will I ever be able to clean the PLM?

Ok, ill try doing that. BTW, the current firmware that im seeing (I'm using my second ISY btw) is 4.5.4. Will that make any difference? When should I try upgrding to 5.X ?

So I switched ISY994 and PLM. And I was surprised when it looked like my previous ISY. Ihave never used these before, they were leftovers my dad gave me. So the interesting thing is I now have browser access to devices and scenes. The one thing I keep running into is this error im getting this on restore PLM

My ISY is set by my router to always use the same up. http://172.16.68.40 blank screen http://172.16.68.4/desc 10http://172.16.68.40urn:udi-com:device:X_Insteon_Lighting_Device:1My LightingUniversal Devices Inc.https://www.universal-devices.comX_Insteon_Lighting_Device:1ISY 994i 102411005.3.0uuid:00:21:b9:02:3b:04uuid:00:21:b9:02:3b:04urn:udi-com:service:X_Insteon_Lighting_Service:1urn:udi-com:serviceId:uuid:00:21:b9:02:3b:04/services.wsdl/services/eventing/ http://172.16.68.40/admin gives me the “PLEASE KEEP THIS WINDOW OPEN” page I’m at the end of my rope. I can’t even see if my ISY scenes are salvageable. I can’t even run them from inside the Java admin interface.

Do they have the same functionality? Will a restore on Cloud be the same as restore with Local? (Provided you use the same backup file)

I switched to using my laptop to run the Java apps.. I somehow restored my backup. Although I’m getting a few errors. Although I have no idea about the admin console. I get options for local and cloud. The local one just hangs. The cloud got me in and that me restore the backup. Why are there 2 ways of using the admin console? Does the local on ever work? What happened to accessing devices by going to http://myIPaddress ? I just get a 404.

Yes. 994i appears corrupt. I’m going to try doing the restore with a different machine. It could be the computer or browser for all I know. I also have another UDI box that I’m not sure what’s on it. It’s something my dad gave me when he quit using Insteon/ISY

I absolutely need to do a restore. Somehow my device is empty

I tried restoring a backup made a week ago, 6 months. None of the are successful. They all stop and report During one of these restore attempts it looks like my ISY got reset. No devices, admin/admin login. Just blank. I took a backup of that. Restore failed as per the others. I Telnet in, perform the format, no difference. What am I missing?

Happens on every backup file. Please no….

Now I’m trying to restore the ISY from either a backup I just made today or one made in February. File | Restore ISY (select backup, confirm prompts) happens on both backup files

My dad fixed AC when he was a young man, and I’d go on jobs with him. But I’m too scared to hook up gauges. I know about AC to the point they can’t lie and not get caught.

I tried File | Restore Moss, (PLM) and a few seconds later Do I have to “discover” or tell ISY about this device?

We had the biggest lightning storm that I’ve ever experienced last night. One particular strike, where you could see and hear it at the same time. What got fried, despite being on surge protectors? Two Ethernet switches. So internet wasn’t down, just half my network. My garage door opener. Well, I wasn’t sure but the GFI circuit it was plugged into was certainly dead. I hook the garage up to an extension cord so I can go buy some replacements, yup garage door opener dead! At this point I head upstairs to shower the grime off me. My AC isn’t working. FML! Now add insult to injury, my PLM looks bricked. I have a backup named: ISY-Backup.v5.3.0__Fri 2025.02.21 10.13.47 I also have a backup PLM I bought years ago the same time my last PLM died. The current (and dead) PLM is model 24135 Revision 2.4 and the backup PLM is also 24135, but revision 2.3 Should I be able to restore this backup from Feb 21 of this year to my ISY994i and this new PLM? What’s the proper procedure? Before I try and switch the PLM, I was able to take a backup of my current ISY setup. Will this backup restore to the new PLM, even though the PLM was dead when I took the backup? I guess I’m asking if the backup uses database entries instead of relying on the PLM itself