Buzzhazz

Can you give me an example of what that program would look like?

Hi all. I just set up my Google Hub and this thread and forum have been very helpful. Thanks to those who have asked questions an provided answers. I think I have my system set up correctly. I have a handful of individual devices set up, but mostly scenes. Some of those scenes use Insteon switches/relays as controllers/responders, and I have labeled those scenes as GH Category switches. Most use Insteon dimmers as controllers responders, and I have labeled the as GH Category lights. Consistent with what I found on the ISY Wiki, the only commands that seem to work with ISY scenes are On and Off. Has anyone found a workaround to have the ability to brighten or dim scenes? For example, I have the Great Room Recessed Lights set up as an Insteon scene using three dimmers. GH will only allow me to turn the scene on or off. I could add the Great Room dimmer which actually controls the load as an individual device and control it rather that the scene, but then the other controllers would not reflect the current status. Just looking for ideas on what others might be doing.Hi all. I just set up my Google Hub and this thread and forum have been very helpful. Thanks to those who have asked questions an provided answers. I think I have my system set up correctly. I have a handful of individual devices set up, but mostly scenes. Some of those scenes use Insteon switches/relays as controllers/responders, and I have labeled those scenes as GH Category switches. Most use Insteon dimmers as controllers responders, and I have labeled the as GH Category lights. Consistent with what I found on the ISY Wiki, the only commands that seem to work with ISY scenes are On and Off. Has anyone found a workaround to have the ability to brighten or dim scenes? For example, I have the Great Room Recessed Lights set up as an Insteon scene using three dimmers. GH will only allow me to turn the scene on or off. I could add the Great Room dimmer which actually controls the load as an individual device and control it rather that the scene, but then the other controllers would not reflect the current status. Just looking for ideas on what others might be doing.

That's a fair point. And the "start from scratch" experience was far less painful than I had imagined. I used the Generate Topology function (Under Tools) to create a listing of all my current device names and codes and took screenshots of my Scenes and their components. I cut and pasted my programs to a Word Document so I can recreate them. All in all, not a bad experience. Thanks to you and the others for the advice and input.

Well, I'm not sure what caused my problem, but ultimately I decided to reset the ISY and all Insteon devices including the PLM to factory settings and start from scratch. The reset and rebuild took less time than I though (~60 devices), but on a bright note, I was able to make some improvements in organization along the way. All is working as it should now. Moderators, feel free to delete this thread if you like, and I'm not sure what useful information it provides at this point.

As I wrote earlier, the ISY knows the correct status for the scene when controlled by an external controller. And the ISY, once I rebuilt my scenes, can control all devices and all scenes. On the program side, timer programs run, but programs that are triggered by a KPL button or Switchlinc push do not work. I hate the thought or resetting everything including ISY to factory settings, but barring any last minute input from the experts here, I guess that's what I'll try. I'm still a bit unclear on the IST reset even after reading the documentation. Do I need to do anything with the external SD card? Should I delete all scenes. programs and devices and the create a backup consisting (I guess) of basic configuration data. Thanks in advance.

Yep

Thanks for the reply. You understand the steps I have taken correctly. The Admin Console's view of the responders DOES change when I remotely activate (for example) a scene. If a controller for the three way virtual hall switch, for example, is turned from Off to On, the Scene page in the Admin Console immediately changes to On. I'm thinking I may be better off starting over, which I do not look forward to. I have ~60 devices. Everything has been working just fine for two years. And then the cheaply-made PLM failed, and here we are . . .

I've followed the steps up to Restore ISY and also restore all devices, and since I am not sure I want to restore with a one-year old backup, I've decided to start fresh. I am almost done recreating scenes, but I still do not understand what is going on with the inability to execute programs. Time based programs work but controller based ones do not. The ISY does not appear to be seeing key presses perhaps. For example, I created a simple program such that when I turn the A button ON on a 6-key KPL, it should turn on a fan light and a foyer light (which is a virtual 4-way), but nothing happens when I turn Button A on. New Program - [ID 000C][Parent 0001] If Control 'LL - Stairs / 15.C6.8C.A' is switched On Then Set 'Great Room - Fan Light' On Set Scene 'Scenes / Foyer 4-Way' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

OK, I updated to the current version. Not sure how they got out of synch. Is one automatic and the other a manual decision? I went ahead and then tried one more PLM Restore. No change. The behavior is the same at this point.

No progress to report today. I went back and followed the Wiki process to the letter as well as the tips above to ensure I didn't miss anything. I have NOT taken the step of restoring to my year old backup yet. Here's the behavior I notice after selecting Restore PLM. --The Restore dialog lasts about 30 seconds. During that time, the progress bar goes from 0 to 2 percent and then closes out. --From the Admin Console, I can control all individual devices, and locally, all devices work locally (as I would expect). --None of my scenes worked using the Admin Console after the initial Restore PLM yesterday. Yesterday, I deleted a couple scenes and recreated them, and they worked. Today, after a couple restoration attempts, the new scenes I built yesterday worked but none of the older ones do. --None of my programs work. I only have a few, so I thought I'd consider just deleting and recreating, but first I tried a couple of very simple new programs. I tried one such that if a currently unused KPL button was turned on, a light in another room would turn on. It didn't work. Then I tried a simple timer program: At time=XX:XXX, turn on a certain light. THAT one works, so it appears timer programs work but programs triggered by button pushes do not. I'm not savvy at reading event logs or error logs, but I think I know how to create and paste them if that will help. I'm willing to recreate my scenes and programs; I'm not a power user so it's not like I have hundreds, but though the scene recreation works, not so much for programs. This is strange to me, and I am running out of ideas. Thanks for the continued input.

Firmware: 4.5.4 UI: 4.6.2

As a follow up, none of my programs work, and when I create a new very simple one, it won't work either. What can I do to get things working again?

The last one I have is a year old. Probably when I last updated the ISY. I tend to update every once in a great while and then not fix things that are not broke. It may be as good as a recent one though as my system has been working and I am not sure I have messed with it since then.

Like many here, two plus years has come and gone, and after a recent power loss related to a storm, my PLM stopped working. I was going to do the capacitor replacement procedure found elsewhere on this forum but noticed that Smarthome is now selling a (supposedly) beefier PLM, so I ordered one. I went through the PLM restore procedure located here and all seemed to go well, but though I can control devices individually, I cannot control any of the scenes. I determined this because some of the buttons on my KPLs trigger scenes, and those buttons were not activating as expected, so I tried it directly from the ISY admin panel, and I can't control from there either. I did delete and recreate once scene just to play around and can control that one scene now, so worst case, I can hopefully do that for all my scenes, but that's obviously not the preferred solution. Has anyone else experienced this behavior? Any suggestions on how I can fix it? Thanks in advance.

You are a good teacher Lee. That makes sense. I programmed it as suggested, and it works perfectly. Thanks.

Thanks Lee, but I'm not following you. I think I understand what you mean with the False state thing--that rather than runnin g sequentially through the THEN portion and repeating, the change in Status is making the program terminate. I don't follow how to fix it though. Do you have time to provide an example?

OK, I finally got around to playing with this. I am doing one step at a time and wrote the progam such that when a KPL button is turned off and a target light is off, it should cycle on and off three times at one second intervals. The purpose is to call the kids to dinner from downstairs without screaming downstairs through a closed door and over a home theater. Here's the program. If Control 'LL - Stairs / Call Upstairs' is switched Off And Status 'Great Room - Sconces (North)' is Off Then Repeat 3 times Set 'Great Room - Sconces (North)' On Wait 1 second Set 'Great Room - Sconces (North)' Off Wait 1 second Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') It only cycles one time though. Here's the event viewer log. What am I doing wrong? Sat 05/16/2015 15:24:25 : [ 15 C6 8C 5] DOF 0 Sat 05/16/2015 15:24:26 : [ 15 C6 8C 5] ST 0 Sat 05/16/2015 15:24:26 : [ 1A 3A 21 1] ST 255 Sat 05/16/2015 15:24:27 : [ 1A 3A 21 1] ST 0

Thanks guys.

I'd like to get some help on what I think should be a fairly straightforward program, but there are probably several ways to do it, some simpler than others. I have a KPL at the top of the stairs. I want to use one of the secondary buttons in non-toggle always OFF mode to activate a program. The program would be used to call the kids up for dinner or whatever. We have a music room and a rec room (among others) down there, and I envision a program which flashed the lights three times in both rooms with one second on and then one second off per cycle--and then leaves the lights in the state they were before. So lets say the kids are in the rec room with lights on and the lights are off in the music room. That's the way the lights would remain after the program had been activated from the KPL button. Ideas?

Replying to myself. Somehow, the ISY reset itself to the default username/password and reset a few other configuration items (location/port settings) to default. Weird.

So this is weird. Last week, my second PLM in three years failed. That seems to be a very common complaint for this device over on SmartHome--that they last 2-3 years and then fail, but that's another topic. This morning, I received a new PLM, and attempted to restore to it as recommended in a post here, but my ISY is not letting me in. It is acting as though I am entering the wrong password. If I type it's address into my browser, the webpage comes up but when I enter my username and password (100% sure they are correct), nothing happens. When I add /admin to go to the Admin Console and try there, after I hit enter, I get "Authorization Failed." Help please.

Well, I think I may have had a browser/Java issue all along. I tested another scene and got some kind of "Node Error; Retry." Nothing was responding. Uninstalled/reinstalled Java and was able to install the MD. Just added it to a scene as a controller and it's working. Then I tried the Mini Remote, which is listed as a Mini Remote on the device and a RemoteLinc 2 on the box--but the part number is 2342-242. It would not link using AutoDiscover (Unrecognized Device) but did link using RemoteLinc as the device type (though the part number is different. I'll play with the options now since using RF devices is new within my system, and I'll return with any questions for the excellent advice you guys always provide. On an unrelated note, I have the 99i and now that it apparently will no longer have firmware updates, is it fair to assume that subsequent versions of existing Insteon devices and any new devices that come along will not be supported by the ISY?

3.3.10

ORIGINALLY POSTED IN ERROR IN ANOTHER FORUM, BUT NOW MOVED HERE. I have not been on the forum for a while, but I'm back. I purchased a 2842-222 Motion Sensor, but feel stupid because I can't figure out how to install it, even after searching for an answer. When I try linking from the Link Management drop down menu, I have tried "Link a Motion Sensor" and "New Insteon Device" with the same results. The menu pops up, I enter the Insteon address of the MS and give it a name and click OK. The window closes--and that's it. Should I put the MS in Link mode before or after I click OK? I have tried both. Should any of the jumpers be installed to the On position (i.e. Jumer 5 - Remote (Software) Management)? I have a Dual Band PLM, two access points, and four dual band switches spread throughout the house, and my Insteon system overall has been very reliable. I have placed the MS near an access point and near the PLM. No change. On perhaps a related note, I also purchased a Mini Remote switch and experienced the same linking problems, though I used the RemoteLinc option since there is no Mini Remote option. Should that work? I am using the Mini Remote to link to my workshop dust collector so that I can turn it on from wherever I am in the shop. Eventually, I did manual linking per the old fashioned manual way, and it works from all over the house so I think the RF portion of my network is reliable. What am I doing wrong?

Ok, I think I understand it now. Thanks.