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I have a question about the HTML interface. I've included a couple of screen shots. On the Devices page, ON or OFF is displayed immediately to the right of the device name. On the Scenes page, there is no ON/OFF indication. Is this normal? If I activate a scene, I can go to the device page and see that the associated devices have in fact been triggered, but unless I am missing something, it seems odd that you should have to do that.

Just an update for anyone who might be following this thread. Short Story: Everything is up and running great. Longer Story: I basically started from scratch, deleting each of the 29 devices I have. I initially could not fins a Delete option but stumbled upon the fact that you cannot delete devices that are in folders. By deleting the folders I had created, the devices within those folders were moved to the My Lighting level. From there, I could Delete a device by right-clicking and selecting Delete. As each device was deleted, the scenes were updated accordingly. When i was done deleting, there were 0 links in my PLM link table (as expected), and my scene folder with the scene names remained but with noting in them (as expected). Then I added a Switchlinc and noted that the PLM link table updated with two records (E2 and A2 prefixes). Then I added an 8-key KPL and noted that it updated with an A2 and E2 record for the device and a single A2 record for each of the other buttons (other than A) for a total of 9 records. A 6-button KPL added an A2 and E2 record and a single A2 record for keys A-D for a total of 6 records. Once I had an idea of what to expect, I turned off the autowrite feature and added all the devices and then turned autowrite back on. When the process was complete, the number of PLM links matched what I calculated there should be. I then turned autowrite back off and recreated all my scenes and then turned autowrite back on. In then end, everything appears to be working just like it should work, and now I look forward to experimenting with the Program features of the ISY. Thanks to those who provided me with their expertise. I'd have been lost without it.

Excellent. Thanks again for the patience and the help. This forum is invaluable. I'll start fresh tomorrow. Take care. --Rob

Progress. I pulled the switch I was experimenting with out of the 'Kitchen' folder so I could delete it. Then I deleted it and reinstalled it. I found the E2 01 link address for the modem in the device link table and the A2 01 link address for the device in the PLM link table. Then I created a new program that when I turned the device on, it would turn on another set of lights with and Insteon Command and send me a text message. IT WORKED! The event log is shown below. I still have an X-10 K3 address in there for some reason that I no longer need so that appears to be part of the log. Does the log look like it's supposed to with that in mind? So now, should I delete all the devices and reinstall? At this point, just to make sure everything is a clean install, I'd just as soon do that, but I'm open to suggestion. Thanks for all the advice Lee. Fri 12/02/2011 09:48:22 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 00.00.01 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Fri 12/02/2011 09:48:22 PM : [standard-Group][0E.58.77-->Group=1] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 09:48:22 PM : [ E 58 77 1] DON 0 Fri 12/02/2011 09:48:22 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 41 11 01 LTONRR (01) Fri 12/02/2011 09:48:22 PM : [standard-Cleanup][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=1] Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Fri 12/02/2011 09:48:23 PM : [X10-RX ] 02 52 32 00 Fri 12/02/2011 09:48:23 PM : [X10-RX ] 02 52 3B 80 Fri 12/02/2011 09:48:23 PM : [X10-RX ] 02 52 3B 80 Fri 12/02/2011 09:48:24 PM : [ E 58 77 1] ST 229 Fri 12/02/2011 09:48:24 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 13.AB.B2 0F 11 FF 06 LTONRR (FF) Fri 12/02/2011 09:48:24 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 13.AB.B2 0F 11 FF 06 LTONRR (FF): Process ACK: duplicate ignored Fri 12/02/2011 09:48:24 PM : [ X10] K3 Fri 12/02/2011 09:48:24 PM : [ X10] K3/Preset Dim (12) Fri 12/02/2011 09:48:24 PM : [ X10] K3/Preset Dim (12) Fri 12/02/2011 09:48:24 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 13.AB.B2 19.75.B9 2B 11 FF LTONRR (FF) Fri 12/02/2011 09:48:24 PM : [standard-Direct Ack][13.AB.B2-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 09:48:24 PM : [ 13 AB B2 1] ST 255

I don't have any options like this for any of my devices. EDIT: I just learned i have to remove it from a folder first. I have folders for different rooms. Standby one.

Dumb question,but how do I delete a device. There is no delete option when I right click.

Hmm. In the Show Device Links table, there are two links. The first is to the PLM, and the other, well, here they both are: OFF8 : A2 00 19.75.B9 FF 1F 00 OFF0 : 00 01 00.00.00 FF 1F 01 There are no A2 . . . records associated with that switch in the PLM Links table.

I do have several KPLs. When I restore ANY of the keys from a KPL, I see write activity on all buttons in the left hand pane, but when I select the Restore option for more than one button, the number of links do not increase. They remain at 29. I deleted a virtual 3-way scene and readded it. It consists of a SwitchLinc dual band (the load) and the "B" button on an 8-key KPL. The number of PLM links increase by 4 from 29 to 32, and if I understand it correctly, that consists of a link each way between the two devices and a link to each from the PLM. I'm still unable to get a simple CONTROL program to work. I have it set up so that the turning on of a switch should activate another switch (I know I can do that easier by cross-linking, but I am just trying to test a simple program), but no luck. If I change the line from a CONTROL to a STATUS and then test it by running 'Run (if)', it works. If Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Island' is switched On Then Set 'Kitchen / Kitchen Recessed Lights' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

I still am running 2.8.16 under the "If it ain't broke don't fix it" theory. I restored all devices. I have 29 devices and 29 links in the PLM table. All of the previous scenes work locally (e.g. three way virtual switches), but NONE of the scenes work when activated from the ISY. If I delete those and start fresh,won't I be creating scenes that already exist--at the local level?

Lee Thanks for your help. I'll start restoring devices. You lost me on the image thing though.

I am almost certain that I did have Device communications selected, but in any event, I selected it again and then restored the same device with a much lengthier event log: Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:00 AM : [E 58 77 1 ] Using engine version i1 for 'Kitchen Island' Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:01 AM : [ E 58 77 1] Preparing Device 'Kitchen Island' for Restore Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:01 AM : [ E 58 77 1] Device 'Kitchen Island' ready for Full Restore Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:01 AM : [All ] Writing 10 bytes to devices Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:01 AM : [E 58 77 1 ] Using engine version i1 for 'Kitchen Island' Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:01 AM : [E 58 77 1 ] Link 0 : 0FF8 [A2001975B9FF1F00] Writing [A2001975B9FF1F00] Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:01 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 0F 28 0F 06 SET-MSB(0F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:01 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 28 0F SET-MSB(0F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:01 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:01 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 0F 2B F8 06 PEEK (F8) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:01 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 2B A2 PEEK (A2) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:01 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:02 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 0F 28 0F 06 SET-MSB(0F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:02 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 28 0F SET-MSB(0F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:02 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:02 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 0F 2B F9 06 PEEK (F9) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:02 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 2B 00 PEEK (00) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:02 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:03 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 0F 28 0F 06 SET-MSB(0F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:03 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 28 0F SET-MSB(0F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:03 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:03 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 0F 2B FA 06 PEEK (FA) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:03 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 2B 19 PEEK (19) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:03 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:04 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 0F 28 0F 06 SET-MSB(0F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:04 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 28 0F SET-MSB(0F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:04 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:04 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 0F 2B FB 06 PEEK (FB) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:04 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 2B 75 PEEK (75) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:04 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:05 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 0F 28 0F 06 SET-MSB(0F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:05 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 28 0F SET-MSB(0F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:05 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:05 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 0F 2B FC 06 PEEK (FC) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:05 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 2B B9 PEEK (B9) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:05 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:06 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 0F 28 0F 06 SET-MSB(0F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:06 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 28 0F SET-MSB(0F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:06 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:06 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 0F 2B FD 06 PEEK (FD) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:06 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 2B FF PEEK (FF) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:06 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:07 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 0F 28 0F 06 SET-MSB(0F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:07 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 28 0F SET-MSB(0F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:07 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:07 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 0F 2B FE 06 PEEK (FE) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:07 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 2B 1F PEEK (1F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:07 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:08 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 0F 28 0F 06 SET-MSB(0F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:08 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 28 0F SET-MSB(0F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:08 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:08 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 0F 2B FF 06 PEEK (FF) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:08 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 2B 00 PEEK (00) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:08 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:09 AM : [MNG-LNK-RSP ] 02 6F 40 E2 00 0E 58 77 01 01 35 15 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:09 AM : [PLM ] Group 0 : Writing Controller Link matching [E 58 77 1 ] Link 0 : 0FF8 [A2001975B9FF1F00] Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:09 AM : [ E 58 77 1] Removing remaining links Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:09 AM : [E 58 77 1 ] Using engine version i1 for 'Kitchen Island' Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:09 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 0F 28 0F 06 SET-MSB(0F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:09 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 28 0F SET-MSB(0F) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:09 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:10 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 0F 2B F0 06 PEEK (F0) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:10 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 2B 00 PEEK (00) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:10 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:10 AM : [E 58 77 1 ] Memory : Write dbAddr=0x0032 [E5] Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:10 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 1F 2E 00 01 06 E5 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 (00) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:11 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 2E 00 (00) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:11 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:11 AM : [E 58 77 1 ] Memory : Write dbAddr=0x0021 [1C] Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:11 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0E.58.77 1F 2E 00 01 05 1C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 (00) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:11 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0E.58.77 19.75.B9 2B 2E 00 (00) Fri 12/02/2011 11:26:11 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][0E.58.77-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

I'm using the kitchen island SwitchLinc as it is a single device with no scenes including virtual three-ways. Here is the result: Fri 12/02/2011 11:03:52 AM : [ E 58 77 1] Preparing Device 'Kitchen Island' for Restore Fri 12/02/2011 11:03:52 AM : [ E 58 77 1] Removing link to unknown device '0 0 0 1' Fri 12/02/2011 11:03:52 AM : [ E 58 77 1] Removing link to unknown device '0 0 0 1' Fri 12/02/2011 11:03:52 AM : [ E 58 77 1] Device 'Kitchen Island' ready for Full Restore Fri 12/02/2011 11:03:52 AM : [All ] Writing 10 bytes to devices Fri 12/02/2011 11:03:52 AM : [E 58 77 1 ] Link 0 : 0FF8 [A2001975B9FF1F00] Writing [A2001975B9FF1F00] Fri 12/02/2011 11:04:00 AM : [PLM ] Group 0 : Writing Controller Link matching [E 58 77 1 ] Link 0 : 0FF8 [A2001975B9FF1F00] Fri 12/02/2011 11:04:00 AM : [ E 58 77 1] Removing remaining links Fri 12/02/2011 11:04:03 AM : [E 58 77 1 ] Memory : Write dbAddr=0x0032 [E5] Fri 12/02/2011 11:04:03 AM : [E 58 77 1 ] Memory : Write dbAddr=0x0021 [1C] With two dozen switches, I don't mind starting over since this is relatively easy with the ISY since I have no backup file (my bad). So--probably a dumb question--how do I delete a device so that I can re-add it. I see no Delete option when I right-click. On perhaps a bright note, after I restored the kitchen island switch, that single link is now showing up under the PLM link table. Progress?

Good news; bad news. I unplugged everything and set it all up again. When I used Tools|Diagnostics|PLM Info/Status, ISY appeared to go into a (maybe) Restore Modem routine which took several minutes. When it was done, it displayed 19.75.BP v98/Connected All good. It's a 2413S v1.5 Then I went to File|Restore Modem (PLM), the process took just a few seconds. I tried to post the results as an attachment, but I think that feature is disabled for me. I'll post it embedded if that helps. Next I tried the two simple programs I described earlier with the same results I received earlier. Specifically, 1) If I build a simple program to check the STATUS of a device and then do a Run (if), and APPLY, it works 2) If I build the same program but use CONDITION and the use the programmed switch to activate the program, nothing happens. Again,this is the same behavior that caused me to initiate this post in the first place. BTW, when I do a Tools|Diagnostics|Show PLM Links table and click Start, nothing happens. When I get tired of waiting and click count, I get 0. On top of this, with the new Modem installed, none of my scenes work from the ISY. I can control individual devices, but not scenes. I have about two dozen devices installed, including a signallinc at the breaker box, two access points on the first floor and two dual band Switchlincs on the second floor and in the lower level. Using all devices locally, I have experienced very reliable communication (approaching 100% I would say), so I don't think it's an Insteon communication problem. I'm stumped. I guess I could delete scenes and start over, but if the replacement modem did not fix the initial issue, I will probably return it to Smarthome and use the old one. The programming features of the ISY seem impressive, but I am unable to use them other than timers and STATUS programs. As always, thanks for the help, and I'll be happy to provide any additional info or run recommended diagnostics.

Hi Michel et al I'm resurrecting an old thread because I just received a new PLM in the mail. I unplugged the old PLM, plugged in the new, connected the Cat 5 to the ISY and powered the ISY with a new power supply (since the new PLMs don't do that apparently). I then logged onto the web interface and was given a warning that it could not communicate with the PLM and that was usually the result of a defective PLM. Figuring that this was probably the result of adding the new PLM, I went to File|Restore Modem (PLM). It failed around 30% or so twice with the message Failed Resetting the PLM [-200000/-30] Am I doing something wrong?

It showed not a single link. I tried File|Restore modem and got the same result. I guess it's shot. If the links are all missing (as they appear to be), should I still be able to control devices from the Admin console? And should my scheduled programs work? They do in both cases. (Probably dumb questions.) If I get a new one, is there a place i can reference to figure out what I need to do? Do I simply Restore using the new PLM?

My apologies. I think what I was viewing were events generated from the Admin console. I cleared those, and am unable to get anything to show in the Event Viewer when the device is actuated locally, so nothing seems to have changed.

Norton Internet Security Suite 2011 Also, it appears the the PLM restore did something. I now can see events in the Event Viewer log with Device Communication events selected. I still can't get Condition programs to work though.

Norton Internet Security Suite 2011

Hi Michel I assume the programs know, but the reason I assume that is that I am able to have my helpers at home turn various lights on and then query My Lighting (even from three states away) and it matches what they turned on. I can activate devices from my laptop, and the status updates correctly as well. I firewall issue sounds like a possibility. I have a Linksys WRT-160N if that helps. I am getting the same behavior on two different computers, so I don't think it's computer related.

I'm at a loss as well. I left town this morning fora business trip so will be limited on physically being able to manipulate devices (w/o enlisting some help from the family via a phone call), but before I left home, I cleared the Java cache, and I unplugged the PLM for 60 seconds (which I believe also reboots the ISY since that is it's power source?) That seems to have made no difference. I can activate scenes and devices from my laptop via the ISY, but the devices are not talking/talking back to the ISY. I also tried the PLM restore. No effect. Finally,in playing around a bit, I created a new program that checks the status of a device, and then send me a text message, and when I run the Run (If) from the program summary tab, it does query the switch and send the text message, so the ISY must be getting some Comm from the device.

They are about an even split between 0.1 and 0.5 seconds. The one I restored was a switch.

I restored a 6-button KPL where the four small buttons were not used for anything. The Restore process shows in the event log and that process seemed to take about 20-30 seconds. I then turned the device on and then back off and that did not show up in the event log.

Hi Lee Nothing showed up in the event log. Just for grins, I went through the house and activated all my switches and keypads. Nothing showed up in the event log (I did have Device Communication Events selected). That makes it sound like none of my Insteon devices are communicating with the ISY. On the other hand, I can activate all my scenes (mostly virtual 3/4-way circuits) and devices from the ISY with 100% reliability and I used the ISY to program all the switches, so I assumed all was working well. So it sounds like the ISY can communicate very reliably with my devices, but my devices are not communicating with the ISY.

Hi all I'm just getting into the programming portion of the ISY. I've installed a number of Insteon devices during a basement remodel and have begun to replace my SwitchLinc X-10 devices as they fail. I have good communication and high reliability. I programmed a simple program based on time of day to turn the outside light on at sunset+15 and off at 11:00, and that worked fine. For my second program, I want to use the H key of an 8-key KPL to turn off lights in various rooms before I head to bed. The KPL is in the hall right next to the bedroom. Right now, i have a mix of Insteon and X-10, so my thought is to use a program that says when the KPL 8 button is pressed, various Insteon devices will turn off and various X-10 house codes will be given the All Off command. Starting at a simple level, I buit a program to accomplish this for just the kitchen light (House Code K), but it does not work. Specifically the program is: If Control 'Great Room / Great Room Hall / 16.76.1A.H' is switched Off Then Send X10 'K/All Lights Off (1)' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') I have the H key set up in non-toggle OFF mode, but I have tried variations of that and also tried to replace the Control button with others in the house, but no luck. If I trigger the 'Run Then' command from the Program Summary page, the kitchen light turn off like they are supposed to, but I cant get the program itself to work. Any thoughts? I am on V 2.8.16.