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(Since AllDigital did this so well, I thought I'd piggyback on it) I've got a modest ISY 994i + Insteon home automation system and I'm considering the upgrade to the eisy, so I can start to clean up what I have and be ready for what's next. I have no new components at this time, I want to learn what I need to order the right stuff. Here is my current footprint (somewhat dated, since I haven't touched it in years): ISY 994i running 5.0.16C (with an unused spare new in box) 7 custom programs / 0 variables Dual-band PLM 2413S (with an unused spare new in box) 41 Insteon devices 3 thermostats (two conventional, one heat pump) 5 KeypadLink dimmer switches 1 IRLinc Reciever 2 Micro Module on/off 4 InLineLinc Dimmer 4 SwitchLinc Dimmer 2 SwitchLinc Relay 11 Dual Band SwitchLinc Dimmer 6 Dual Band SwitchLinc On/Off Switch 1 LampLinc ByPhy 2 IOLinc 4 Slhage Powered Door locks 3 Aeotec R6 Zwave repeater to make the door locks talk. Not certain what a network resource is.... UDI Portal integration No email notifications w customizations, but would love to learn to make that work someday. Agave app, UD Mobile app I am not using any of the energy features. My goal in moving up is to modernize my stale (but working great!) setup, be able to add Elk security and control, and have better Zwave range and a technical path forward. I'm ready to order, just want to make sure I order the right parts. If there's a smooth migration path, cool, but I don't mind resetting it all to factory clean and starting over anyway since I work from home now. Abount half the devices need to be regrouped / renamed anyway. I'm looking at a new upstairs A/C unit now, also, planning on getting one with modern integration abilities, open to suggestions on that. Wide open to all comments and suggestions! Thanks, - Marc Nowell

Setting up a new phone today and can't find it. I know there's been an announcement/discussion about not enough time to support and opening it up.

I have Pis, but not exposure yet to Nodes, node servers, or node links. Where should I start reading? From other threads, I was figuring that might be my next topic.

Not by any published sources I've found yet.

I can't see where the ISY994i allows for sending to remote syslog or anything like that. Is there a script or agent for Windows or Linux that would make periodic collection and aggregation easier than manually cutting and pasting?

Is it possible to remove or add user codes for a door lock programmatically?

Well, it's something at least. Glad I'm only seeing a couple of those. When I'm having issue with a device, I'm now running the Device Links Table to compare. I often get a -200000/-5 error while doing that. Once I see that, am I failed for that operation? I'm getting dialog box with two of those errors, one from a device that I'm not even working on that appears to be OK. Once I click "OK" to close the box, nothing else seems to happen, Just did a factory reset (pull button out for ten seconds, then press in until beep) on an in-wall SwitchLinc Dimmer w/Beeper, was getting the -200000/-5 error before and still am after resetting it. Would PLM location be a factor? It's two rooms away. Is PLM distance a factor for ANYTHING that isn't wireless?

Console says v9E, stickers on PLM say 2413S, V2.1, 1534. Sun 02/05/2017 11:59:51 AM : [GRP-RX ] 02 61 19 13 00 15 ----- Penny's table lamp Test Results ----- [Failed] Penny's table (14 3B 46 1) [ignore] Penny's Black Chairside - A (11 C5 18 1) ----- Penny's table lamp Test Results -----

So what causes "-200000/-5" errors, or any other -200000 error? I did a search and there are a few thread about communications issues, but most of them seem to treand towards seeing if you have a general PLM failure, which is not what I seem to be having. Can it be a failure in a node device as well?

Thanks, that helped me remember just how far out I have to move the RemoteLinc to communicate happily: Outside, on the far side of the driveway in back. This is caused by RF from the PLM? At any rate, moving out there let me write changes and clear the 1011 flags. I feel that the LampLinc isn't the issue, it controls fine from the console perfectly, and responds to "all on" and "all off" from the RemoteLinc just fine. Just not the assigned button on the same RemoteLinc. I've been able to read the device links a could of times and compare, there is one link mismatch. I've still not been able to complete a successful device restore on that button. This is concerning this configuration, from above: {scene} Penny's table lamp {Controller} Penny's Black Chairside - A (This is a Remotelinc 2440) {Device} Penny's Table (this is a LampLinc BiPhyv.3A

To those reading and helping, this is my "Porch Kitchen" item, which was the start of the thread. Techman, I swear on my [fill in valuable item] that I did that three times yesterday, and it failed. Just now it worked perfectly. I have no idea why, but thanks. Do the mini remotes always need to be in linking mode to write with them? The gui prompts don't call that out like it does for other remotes.

And, I'm working on two different issues here. The one I first described is my "porch kitchen dimmer" issue, I'll get back to it soon. Right now I'm also chasing an issue with my mom's (Penny's) items. I have a structure of: {scene} Penny's table lamp {Controller} Penny's Black Chairside - A (This is a Remotelinc 2440) {Device} Penny's Table (this is a LampLinc BiPhyv.3A Using oberkc's instructions above, when I do a [right click][diagnostics][show device link table] on the DEVICE, I get: when I do a [right click][diagnostics][show device link table] on the CONTROLLER button, I get: Some writing activity, then, then no activity until I clock on the box again, then A LOT of activity in the event viewer and progress bar, then a link table. When I compare, There is a mismatch. When I do a RESTORE DEVICE to that same item, I follow the directions to put the batter=powered device in setup mode, hit OK, get nine items in the event viewer (level 3 messages), and it completes. But nothing has changed. If I compare the links again, I see the same mistmatch.

I have the little green "1011" flag next to things that need to be written. When I choose to write the information, I get the green "Writing" flag in the same place. When the writing completes, I have the "1011" flag again. Does that mean the writing wasn't complete or successful? Generally I would expect it to change to the little block of six green, blue, and red buttons.

I updated to latest firmware and UI (4.5.4) with no change in effect. I had a mini remote on my pack porch fail (likely got too damp too many times), so I replaced it. Added device in console using device address and model, then dragged it into correct scenes. Removed the old one. Now programming on the controlled device : (2477D) Dual Band SwitchLinc Dimmer v.41 fails. The new mini remote DOES turn the device on an off, but I've lost ramp and on levels, and program access. I've moved the PLC to four different places on the property with no change in symptom. Did a full reset on the SwitchLinc with no change in symptoms. Any ideas? and, Thanks! Event log: Fri 02/03/2017 07:36:36 PM : [All ] Writing 63 bytes to devices Fri 02/03/2017 07:36:36 PM : [3F B 65 1 ] Link 0 : 0FF8 [E2013C499F010001] Writing [E2013C499F010001] Fri 02/03/2017 07:36:36 PM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 3F 0B 65 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F FF 08 E2 01 3C 49 9F 01 00 01 B0 Fri 02/03/2017 07:36:36 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 3F.0B.65 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F FF 08 E2 01 3C 49 9F 01 00 01 B0 06 (00) Fri 02/03/2017 07:36:45 PM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 3F 0B 65 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F FF 08 E2 01 3C 49 9F 01 00 01 B0 Fri 02/03/2017 07:36:45 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 3F.0B.65 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F FF 08 E2 01 3C 49 9F 01 00 01 B0 06 (00) Fri 02/03/2017 07:36:54 PM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 3F 0B 65 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F FF 08 E2 01 3C 49 9F 01 00 01 B0 Fri 02/03/2017 07:36:54 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 3F.0B.65 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F FF 08 E2 01 3C 49 9F 01 00 01 B0 06 (00) Fri 02/03/2017 07:36:58 PM : [3F B 65 1 ] Link 0 : 0FF8 [E2013C499F010001] *Failed Writing [E2013C499F010001] Fri 02/03/2017 07:36:58 PM : [23 C2 9B 1 ] Link 3 : 0FE0 [A2013F0B65FF1F01] Writing [A2013F0B65FF1F01] Fri 02/03/2017 07:36:58 PM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 23 C2 9B 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F E7 08 A2 01 3F 0B 65 FF 1F 01 60 Fri 02/03/2017 07:36:58 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 23.C2.9B 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F E7 08 A2 01 3F 0B 65 FF 1F 01 60 06 (00) Fri 02/03/2017 07:36:59 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.C2.9B 3C.49.9F AF 2F FF (FF) Fri 02/03/2017 07:36:59 PM : [std-Direct Nack] 23.C2.9B-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3 Fri 02/03/2017 07:37:04 PM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 23 C2 9B 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F E7 08 A2 01 3F 0B 65 FF 1F 01 60 Fri 02/03/2017 07:37:04 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 23.C2.9B 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F E7 08 A2 01 3F 0B 65 FF 1F 01 60 06 (00) Fri 02/03/2017 07:37:04 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.C2.9B 3C.49.9F AF 2F FF (FF) Fri 02/03/2017 07:37:04 PM : [std-Direct Nack] 23.C2.9B-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3 Fri 02/03/2017 07:37:09 PM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 23 C2 9B 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F E7 08 A2 01 3F 0B 65 FF 1F 01 60 Fri 02/03/2017 07:37:09 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 23.C2.9B 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F E7 08 A2 01 3F 0B 65 FF 1F 01 60 06 (00) Fri 02/03/2017 07:37:10 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 23.C2.9B 3C.49.9F AF 2F FF (FF) Fri 02/03/2017 07:37:10 PM : [std-Direct Nack] 23.C2.9B-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3 Fri 02/03/2017 07:37:10 PM : [23 C2 9B 1 ] Link 3 : 0FE0 [A2013F0B65FF1F01] *Failed Writing [A2013F0B65FF1F01]

I'm sending my ISY-994i back to Universal Devices for repair/replacement. Having never done this before, is there any set of procedures I need to think about in advance? I have a current backup, made today.

I think you're correct here. Let me digest this.

ISY, sorry. ISY 994i PRO w v4.3.26 firmware and UI. No idea where "insy" came from.

Yes I am. I recently upgraded to "Pro" so I could schedule the writes, best money ever spent.

And yet, somehow, I had mine setup to argue. Buzz, blink up and down a second, then hard freeze. TO the wiring, yes, if I recall correctly. See page 11of this document: http://cache-m2.smarthome.com/manuals/2477d-en-03-26-2015.pdf. The one I used was a year back, not near as pretty, and had discrete steps about locating the load and the line, which I followed. I specifically remember the capped off unused traveler and the capped off unused load wire on the line side. I saw no chatter until I tried to assign buttons against it using INSY. Looking at the scene "Closet lights on" with both switches at controllers, I see the options ot set the on level and ramp rate on EACH SWITCH, and they controlling the SAME LOAD. I feel that's the cause of the chatter, somehow.

What you show makes sense to me. I've got to figure out how to DO what's indicated by the stuff highlighted in blue.

My initial attempt had the two switches in question manually linked per Insteon paper "three way switch install" instructions -- i.e., INSY ignorant. When I added the two to a scene as responders then added a button as a controller, hitting the button worked, but the line ends of the switches chattered, blinked, and would eventually lock up. That's what I'm calling "arguing", some instructional or electronic interference. A reset of the switches would work temporarily, that's what got me asking, "How SHOULD I do it?" here. Other than generally wanting to learn better techniques, I haven't had any issues with doing this stuff (my topology report has 78 rows in it), but I'm pretty new to good INSY technique and have NO idea about how smart switches retrofitted to hardwired three-way circuits should be expected to live long and prosper.

To further elaborate on stuff above: I would build an "On" scene and an "Off" scene. Based on advice above, I'd add both switches as CONTROLLERS, not RESPONDERS, which is what would seem more intuitive to me. Fine, that works. When I go to build my second scene (the off scene), I can't add the switches as controllers again, because they've already been used as such in the "on" scene.

Yeah, that's basically it. Trying to get the configuration right on the pairs of three-way switches so they're not arguing.

Is it not possible to have a scene "Night" with light A at 50%, light B at 75%, scene "Day" with both A and B at 100%, and scene "All off" with both at 0%? Three buttons? From what you're describing, this isn't possible. What would the function of the "8-Scene non-Toggle" configuration for a RemoteLinc 2 be? Just trying to understand....

Nothing other than the target on and off states. For this conversation, I have device "A" (2477D DB SwitchLinc Dimmer) which is line side device in a three way circuit. I have device "B", same hardware, which is the load side in the same circuit. With everything cleared and re-added, the B switch is operating the load fine, the A device is doing nothing. As it see it, tasks are: Through the Admin Console, is have the A device control the load too. (presumably by having it control the B device?) Have a RemoteLinc 2 button (currently in 8-scene non-toggle mode) control that scene as well. Have a second button on the same RemoteLinc 2 control a scene to turn the lights off. Or is there a better way? I'd like to learn more about the controller/responder relationship.