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Thanks IndyMike, I got the 2450 IO and the program i did create, was very simple and it worked perfectly. IF: IO sensor is ON (latched mode) (input from tank top sensor - when tank is not full sensor goes ON) Then: Wait 5 Minutes Micro Module ON (Fill Pump starts pumping) Lamp Linc ON (indicator light in house switches on) Else: Micro Module OFF Lamp Linc OFF The 2450 IO in the latched mode stays ON, as long the tank top sensor sends an ON command (tank not full). As soon the tank has been filled, the tank top sensor goes OFF, and the status of the 2450 IO changes, the fill pump stops pumping and the indicator light goes out. I was not aware that the change of the status 2450 IO when in latched mode would terminate this program. Afriad I needed something real special. Thank you guys for all your input

Thank you IndyMike & xlurkr, Beyond the above, you need to think through failure modes: What happens if an micro on/off doesn't receive communication and doesn't turn on/off? The storage tank is fitted with an automatic ball valve, controlled by the top level sensor when tank is full. The fill pump, if not shut off by the home automation, can pump into the watersystem against existing pipe pressure - not perfect scenario..... Same for the 2450 - it doesn't transmit the contact open/close. same as above What happens if the system is running and power fails? We have a 16KW automatic back-up generator and the network with the ISY 994i and interface are protected by an UPS to bridge the start-up time of the generator. What happens when power is restored (many modules will default to the last power state). The Insteon devices will loose power during the start-up time of the generator, and I have no clue if a program will then continue to run, otherwise see #1 above. Yes, the 2450 IO needs to be in the latching mode

Thank you again for you time and effort on this issue. I have not received the Insteon 2450 IO yet, being down in the Baja California Sur is a bit more complicated than residing in Los Angeles, CA. Guy Levoie: That works because the status of the level sensor will remain at ON during the time that the program is waiting 10 minutes before continuing and turning on the pump. Adding a wait like that is a good practise, it adds hysterisis to the control system, preventing short run cycles of the pump. That is the exact reason I wanted to add the Wait command with appr. 10minutes to the program. oberkc: I am failing to see why the single program would not work. Use "STATUS" condition for the water level sensor (IOLinc sensor wired to something, I assume). I shall test the single program after having the 2450 IO in my hands, otherwise the two program would be an easy solution to use. The reason for all this: The fill pump for this water storage tank, used to be a very expensive and sophisticated deep well solar pump. During solar hours it was filling the tank, and then provided watersystem pressure for house and irrigation. This solar pump was solely controlled by an inline pressure switch. After daylight hours the standard pressure pump took over, only drawing water from the storage tank and providing watersystem pressure. Being controlle by a separate pressure switch. The expensive solar pump went kaputt, and the replacement well pump would be able to fill the tank, but could not create the necessary needed watersytem pressure, the control via a pressure switch would not work any longer. A simple float switch is not an option for this project. Water is being drawn from this tank at various times of the day, and the new fill pump is supposed to keep the tank full, right now temp. programmed at four fixed times with a 15minutes run time each.

Thank you guys for all your input, paulbates suggestion was my first thought. oberkc What I am trying to do, if my pressure pump takes water out of the tank (the tank sensor is open when tank is full) the sensor goes closed then. I like for the fill pump to wait 10 minutes before starting to pump water back into the tank. The runtime of the fill pump should be variable, controlled by the Insteon 2450 IO - when its sensor input goes open depending on the full tank - tank sensor is open. I have not written that program yet, as I am not sure how to imbed a secondary condition for the 2450 IO when its status changed from ON to Off. The completion/end of that program should be dictated by the status change of the 2450IO device. Guy Lavoie One effect is that if the detector turns off before the 10 minutes is up, then the pump won't turn on at all, which is what you might be wanting here. The detector (tank sensor) can't turn off before the ten minutes are up, as only the running fill pump (after Wait) can top off the water level in the tank, and change then the status of the tank sensor.

Please I need help with this programming.....long time user, getting old and have no clue! Tank level sensor closes contact – Insteon 2450 IO (which 2450 mode?) Then wait 10 minutes Turn on fill pump (Insteon- micro on, with power relay) Keep pump running until tank level sensor open contact – Insteon 2450 IO Turn off fill pump (Insteon- micro off, with power relay) Thank you for your help Karl

I'm trying to log on to the ISY-99 at my customer's place. My laptop is connected to the router via Cat5 cable and I can go the UD site and click on the link under the support tab. The screen "My ISY" comes up, Java is installed and the next screen is blue without data and I'm not asked for user id/password. The ISY-99 is approximately 200' away from the router, and the Cat5 cable checks out OK. If I bring the ISY close to the router, I can get into "My ISY" after multiple tries. Any help is really appreciated Karl