ArunGupta2014

None of these cables will connect the 2413S to the eisy. These cables DO NOT have RJ45 to USB connection.

Hi, I have a similar question. I too have 2413S PLM with RJ45 connector. If I buy the Serial PLM kit from UDI store, which cable would connect the PLM to the Eisy? I do not see any cable which has RJ45 on one end and USB on other. Thanks

Thanks. I absolutely trust your word!! I am not an expert in this area, so asked. I am also dealing with another inconsistency totally unrelated to this thread so wanted a better understanding of how Insteon/ISY scenes work. The guidance I received in this thread helped me overcome a technological limitation in my HVAC system using Insteon as a solution.

First of all, thanks to everyone who responded. I was able to find a spare dual band dimmer and the setup is working fine. I added IO Linc and 2466S to ISY and created the scene in ISY. Question is: does the scene only live in ISY? If ISY is unavailable for any reason, would the scene stlll work? What I am trying to find out is whether manual device linking is same as creating a scene in ISY and vice-versa. Thanks

Like Brian H suggested, I tried plugging in a dual band lamp dimmer module directly into the pass through outlet of IO Linc and it worked 100% reliably. But the pass through outlet is where the pump is connected. So, if I get a dual band Plug-in On/Off Module, I can plug it into the pass through outlet and the pump gets plugged into the On/Off module output. Then I can control everything from ISY instead of relying on direct module linking. Unfortunately, I just checked and the on/off module is sold out. I just wish all the Insteon devices were dual band. I got caught off-guard with 2466. For the price, I thought it would be a dual band device. Thanks

I am planning on using IO Linc to monitor a NC pump switch. If the pump malfunctions, the switch changes to OPEN. When this happens, I want a 2466S to turn OFF the AC. The IO Linc and 2466S are on same circuit, maybe a foot apart. The problem is that both these devices being power line only (I realized this too late), the ISY signal does not reach them reliably. I have tried many things including placing a dual band device on the same breaker leg as IO Linc and 2466, but I still cannot reliably monitor/control either of these devices via ISY. My question is: do I really need ISY in this situation? Can IO Linc directly control 2466S without either of these devices added to ISY? Thanks

It is a 58MVC 100-F-10120 dual fuel system. Wiring diagram is available in the installation manual. I can post it here but I already checked. There is no separate emergency shutdown. The emergency shutdown switch installed outside the unit cuts power to entire unit and the condensate pump. I was looking at using Insteon Remote Control Micro On/Off Switch Adapter but it is out of stock. It would have fit nicely in the metal box.

This system does not have the Carrier app. It is a totally closed system, no internet connectivity. I might have to look for some other solution because the emergency ON/OFF switch is installed in a metal electrical box which is way too small to fit the 2466SW.

Yes, but since Carrier Infinity system uses a proprietary protocol between HVAC system control board and thermostat, I cannot hack into it. It uses wires labeled as ABCD. I checked on a HVAC board and the experts familiar with the system said that you cannot just cut a cable and insert the switch. The installers had connected the wires to the switch and these wires were going into the unit. This gave me the false impression that they had connected the switch. But, couple of days ago, when the pump malfunctioned and water leaked all over the floor, I opened the HVAC system, got to the control board and checked, those wires were not connected to anything...They were just hanging in there. The installers probably did not connect them because they knew it cannot be done. The condensate pump safety switch is a plain micro-switch, absolutely nothing connected to it. I have checked manufacturer's data and physically opened up the pump to double check. It is a dual fuel heating system and heat pump cooling system. The heat pump can also be used for heating instead of natural gas. When heat pump is being used for heating, if the temperature falls below a certain limit, natural gas will take over. I always keep it at natural gas heating only. But, condensate never forms during heating cycles. It always forms when system is cooling. The system has lock out prevention. So, if the power goes off and comes back on quickly, the system waits several minutes before turning on. Thanks, Arun

I do not want to bore everyone on why I am doing this but...the problem is that I need to have a power switch to power off my HVAC system if the condensate pump overflows. The HVAC system in question is Carrier Infinity 58MVC system which uses proprietary protocols to communicate with Carrier's own thermostat. It does not use R/Y/W/C etc. thermostat wires. The condensate pump has a safety switch which can be wired in either NC or NO mode. If the pump fails, the safety switch will change from NC to open or from NO to close. When this happens, I want to power off the HVAC unit. The unit has an emergency ON/OFF switch which is a standard 15A paddle style switch. The power circuit is controlled by a 15A breaker in the box, so I am assuming that the current draw does not exceed 15A. The Carrier manual states that current should be 8.96A. So, I want to replace the emergency ON/OFF switch with 2466SW. I want to wire the condensate pump's safety switch to I/O Linc. When pump tries to overflow, the safety switch will toggle from open to close or vice-versa. Then I/O Linc should send a signal to ISY994. That signal will then be used to turn off the 2466SW which will cut power to the HVAC system preventing further condensate generation. I also want the 2466SW to remain off once triggered by the I/O Linc, till I manually turn it on again. Are all these operations possible? Is the 2466SW is capable of handling the current for prolonged periods? The HVAC system is infinitely variable speed, so it keeps operating for hours at lower capacity thus providing comfortable heating/cooling. I do not want the 2466SW relay to melt... All comments/ideas are appreciated, particularly if there is a better idea. Thanks, Arun

The port forwarding rules were just for testing and I had disabled them when the errors were persistent. After some troubleshooting, the ISY uses outgoing port 8000 and 443. Port 443 was already open. After I opened port 8000, the errors are gone. The Alexa routine is also working, but with the 30 second activity limit. I will update the other thread. Is it possible to include the port requirements for portal in some documentation so it might help others? Thanks, Arun

Michel, thanks for your reply. I have a firewall but I do not see any dropped packets. I have configured ISY to use non-default HTTP and HTTPS ports, 8001 and 44301. Outgoing traffic originating from ISY hub from both these ports is allowed to go out to the internet. Does the portal try to make incoming connection to the ISY hub? I have port forwarding setup for both HTTP and HTTPS ports. But the error messages still persist. I was looking at the following link for error messages. UPnP is disabled on the ISY hub. (I assume that ISY does not use UPnP, remember reading about it somewhere on this forum). https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY-99i/ISY-26_INSTEON:Errors_And_Error_Messages The error -5010 is UPNP SUBSCRIBER TCP CONNECT FAILURE tried to connect to the subscriber's ip/port but timed out Please let me know what kind of connection does the portal try to make to the ISY hub (incoming or outgoing) and what ports does it use. Thanks, Arun

My ISY is logging the following error every 15-30 seconds. How to fix this? 2018/12/25 01:11:53 System -5010 0 2018/12/25 01:12:08 System -5010 0 2018/12/25 01:12:35 System -5010 0 2018/12/25 01:12:50 System -5010 0 2018/12/25 01:13:17 System -5010 0

Actually, I should have posted in Alexa Issues. I found similar topic in the link below. A user zerop had the same issue and he said that by turning on live update, the issue was resolved. I do not see live update anywhere in the portal. I am not trying to duplicate ISY functionality. I just want Alexa to say specific words when I press a certain key on remote. For example, when I turn on the bedside lamp, I want Alexa to say "Bedside lamp on".

I did discover it, that is how I can see the status changed from open to closed in the Alexa app when remote key is pressed... The variable changes status in Admin Console. So, somehow, the remote key, when configured as a contact sensor in Alexa, is not sending proper signal to Alexa to trigger a routine. Something for UDI to look at. Alexa totally supports it. https://developer.amazon.com/blogs/alexa/post/bda9d70c-2f0d-454d-9939-2eb82868cf35/announcing-contact-and-motion-sensor-apis-and-integration-into-alexa-routines-adding-new-home-automation-features-for-customers-and-new-opportunities-for-smart-home-developers