BobMic

Thanks Brian, I got the spec sheet. That makes sense that D7 is a Zener and R7 is its load. That would mean that if the voltage at the cathode of D6 exceeds the Zener voltage by ~ 1.2v the transistor in the opto drives a current into the feed-back of U1 to regulate the output. That would put the Zener at about 18.8v for the readings others have reported (20v). R6 may have some influence depending on its value but probably there to limit the current into the opto. Thanks for the tip on the through-hole. Probably what I need to do. I didn't get a chance to work on it last night and not sure when I will get another chance with Christmas almost here but I will report back once I get a look.

Thank you for the schematic in post #282. I thought I was going to have to draw it myself. One question...it looks like D7 is backwards? I repaired a 5010 which of course failed at 2y 3mo and it has been working now for about 4 months. Yesterday my other 5010 which is 2y 7mo old failed so I dug back into my bag of caps and swapped them out only to find it completely dead after the repair. I expect I have a problem with board damage as I had trouble getting a couple of the caps off this time. I will do some tracing with the help of your schematic tonight. I will confirm tonight and report back with what I find and also what I screwed up so that the next guy who makes the same mistake can fix it. I also wanted to mention that i tried to use the board from a 2413S with the 5010 daughter board and the firmware must not be compatible. Anyone have a work-around for that? Thanks to everyone that has contributed to this thread. You can put me down as 1 5010 EzFlora fixed and 1 more soon to be fixed. Bob

Thanks Jimbo and Stu. I made a few adjustments and have the KPL working as it should. I hope this little sidetrack helps the OP get his KPLs doing what he wants. I was having trouble getting the KPL to take the changes which is not too much of a surprise as it is 2008 vintage and of course power line only. I did find something that may help others. It appears that if I have the load full up it takes the updates better. That may be a function of having a light load (LEDs) or may just be a coincidence. I couldn't get it to take the changes reliably with the load dimmed but took it right in with the load full up. The other thing I had to fiddle with was the toggle modes. I ended up with the main buttons set for toggle, the "nightlight" button set as non-toggle/on and the "goodnight" button set as non-toggle/off. Nightlight turns off most of the devices in the scene but sets the connected load to 15% and a couple other devices to a low level. Goodnight turns everything off. I did get an error when I tried to set the connected load to 0% for the goodnight scene. It said that a button on the device could not set the connected load off so I set it to 1%.

Not an issue for me because I'm using it in 6 button mode. I only have scenes on the 4 center buttons and use the big buttons as a standard dimmer control for the connected load. The other thing I don't quite understand about the KPL is the toggle modes...? Thanks for the tip!!

So let's see if I understand...by putting KPL-B in scene 1 as a responder you are setting the LED for button B to off when scene 1 is pressed? That may explain why my LEDs have never done what I wanted them to do. Is the LED on a button just a responder and the button just a controller and act independently? Thanks, Bob

I think this is what you are trying to do: Scene 1 (push button KPL-A) Controller/Responder – KPL- A it’s load at 20% Responder - light 1 at 20% Responder – light 2 at 20% Etc Scene 2 (push button KPL-B Controller KPL-B Responder – KPL-A load at %50 Responder – light 1 at 100% Responder – light 2 at 80% Etc As I understand it you should be able to do this with no problem. I have similar scenes in my set up where button ##.##.##-B controls the attached load at a different on % than the main button. I am using mine as a 6 button so the connected load is controlled by the top and bottom buttons like a simple dimmer and the other 4 buttons are scenes that include the connected load and several other devices but I can't imagine it is any different in 8 button mode.