BobMic

Thank you for the schematic in post #282. I thought I was going to have to draw it myself. One question...it looks like D7 is backwards? I repaired a 5010 which of course failed at 2y 3mo and it has been working now for about 4 months. Yesterday my other 5010 which is 2y 7mo old failed so I dug back into my bag of caps and swapped them out only to find it completely dead after the repair. I expect I have a problem with board damage as I had trouble getting a couple of the caps off this time. I will do some tracing with the help of your schematic tonight. I will confirm tonight and report back with what I find and also what I screwed up so that the next guy who makes the same mistake can fix it. I also wanted to mention that i tried to use the board from a 2413S with the 5010 daughter board and the firmware must not be compatible. Anyone have a work-around for that? Thanks to everyone that has contributed to this thread. You can put me down as 1 5010 EzFlora fixed and 1 more soon to be fixed. Bob

Thanks Jimbo and Stu. I made a few adjustments and have the KPL working as it should. I hope this little sidetrack helps the OP get his KPLs doing what he wants. I was having trouble getting the KPL to take the changes which is not too much of a surprise as it is 2008 vintage and of course power line only. I did find something that may help others. It appears that if I have the load full up it takes the updates better. That may be a function of having a light load (LEDs) or may just be a coincidence. I couldn't get it to take the changes reliably with the load dimmed but took it right in with the load full up. The other thing I had to fiddle with was the toggle modes. I ended up with the main buttons set for toggle, the "nightlight" button set as non-toggle/on and the "goodnight" button set as non-toggle/off. Nightlight turns off most of the devices in the scene but sets the connected load to 15% and a couple other devices to a low level. Goodnight turns everything off. I did get an error when I tried to set the connected load to 0% for the goodnight scene. It said that a button on the device could not set the connected load off so I set it to 1%.

Not an issue for me because I'm using it in 6 button mode. I only have scenes on the 4 center buttons and use the big buttons as a standard dimmer control for the connected load. The other thing I don't quite understand about the KPL is the toggle modes...? Thanks for the tip!!

So let's see if I understand...by putting KPL-B in scene 1 as a responder you are setting the LED for button B to off when scene 1 is pressed? That may explain why my LEDs have never done what I wanted them to do. Is the LED on a button just a responder and the button just a controller and act independently? Thanks, Bob

I think this is what you are trying to do: Scene 1 (push button KPL-A) Controller/Responder – KPL- A it’s load at 20% Responder - light 1 at 20% Responder – light 2 at 20% Etc Scene 2 (push button KPL-B Controller KPL-B Responder – KPL-A load at %50 Responder – light 1 at 100% Responder – light 2 at 80% Etc As I understand it you should be able to do this with no problem. I have similar scenes in my set up where button ##.##.##-B controls the attached load at a different on % than the main button. I am using mine as a 6 button so the connected load is controlled by the top and bottom buttons like a simple dimmer and the other 4 buttons are scenes that include the connected load and several other devices but I can't imagine it is any different in 8 button mode.