Brian H

Well I have been around for many years. I don't see any Green box either.

Is it an intelligent opener? Where it has a display with things like a clock or a simple push button control. If it is a simple push button. Does it act the same way. As the button is normally off and pushing it turns it on. Is the I/OLinc set for a momentary relay on pulse or continuous?

Almost all dual band devices. Have a built in communications test (4 tap test for many or flow chart to follow). You can try the test to supplement testing the system with them unplugged. If the revision is any of the 1 series. They are on the transformer style main board with a daughter board. The revision 2 are on the same main board as the 2413 PLM. With the same capacitor issues as the PLM. Revision number may effect the decision. I have a pair of 1.6 in use for many years. Replacing a pair of revision 2 that had failed power supplies.

I still have some in use. If they still work I would also say keep them. I have some of the original V1.3. That failed. Load flashed on and off at about a 1 second cycle. I did rebuild them but now retired. My V4 ones are still in use.

Thank you for the information. I have seen the LED Glow/Flicker Eliminators. Used on X10 installations. They have had good results with them.

OK sounds like a way to proceed. I forgot to mention that white led would be on bright or flashing depending on phase of the sender and receiver, but they where communicating with each other.

The 4 tap tests works on many of the dual band modules. You tap the set button 4 times and it starts the communications test. Some models use a flow chart and a sequence of set button ans LED flask patterns to start the test. Some refer to it a the Beacon test. I have seen that some still follow the 4 tap method though it shows in a flow chart. Then you look at the other modules LED and what it is showing. Flashing Green shows it is communicating on opposite phases. Flashing Red communicating on the same phase. No flashing not communicating between the test modules. Not all will pass the test. Just you need some showing between them. Note the 2413S also can do the 4 tap test to other modules. The LED on some can also be set to flash on traffic. That also may give you some clues.

May also depend on your wanting to use any of the latest I3 Insteon Modules. Only the eisy has firmware to control them. Depending on if the modules are the real old I1 power line only. Your new home may have noise makers or signal suckers. If you have any Dual Band modules. Try seeing what their built in Communications Tests show. As you may have a hard to reach area in the home. If the 2413S is a revision >2.0 and not the latest. You could be correct. As they had power supply issues and for some failed.

Back in the ISY99i and earlier ISY994i days. There was no Finder. We had a start.jnlp file to access the Administrative Console. I believe it may also have been created for the firmware we where using. V3.3.10 was the last ISY99i firmware released.

The reset button actually had more than one function. If you held it for a short time (yes I forgot exact length). You reset the console access and password to admin. If you hold it longer. 30 seconds sound like it maybe it. You did a full factory reset on it and you needed use a procedure to add firmware to it.

Been a real long time now. I have used an ISY994i for probably the whole 16 years it was sold. Last time I accessed my ISY99i with the last firmware 3.3.10 released for it. Was with the Administrative Console. Released for that revision firmware. As the Finder was not released and each update had its own Console. Early enough Java so that the Security Tab had lower levels I used and not just the Hi or Very Hi choices. I believe it was a lower choice that worked. Never tried it but in the Java Security Tab. There is a place to put information in the Exception Site List. I think Java still asks about it but you can still run the program after an OK. If in that list.

I do not believe the ISY Finder goes back that far for the firmware in the ISY99i. There was an older administrative console program to access it. It my have also even been tied to what firmware is in the ISY99i. As I do remember getting later ones from time to time. As newer firmware was released.

I believe (old memories here). I also get a similar message when I tried my ISY99i. I think the present program will not work correctly on the ISY99i.

I have a power strip that has both a noise and surge suppression feature. The noise suppression is just a AC rated capacitor across the power line. It absorbs both Insteon and x10 power line signals as noise. I ended up opening it up and removing the capacitor. Though it probably would not effect dual band devices as much. As they also have RF. In my setup. I have a 10A FilterLinc with my UPS in the filtered outlet and the PLM in the pass through outlet on the front of it.

No. It uses the load to complete the circuit and control the light. It is also RF only communications. Connecting Line and Neutral will result in a short as you thought.

Having to cycle the power to make thing temporarily better. Is one of the signs that the PLM is on its way out. I too recommend a new PLM.

The 2456S3E is the older designed. Power line only module. The 2634-222 is a dual band using both RF and power line signals. The dual band should work better. If their is another dual band module close enough to handle passing on the commands. If you have some power line noise. That could effect it working.

I had a problem with 2440 RemoteLinc remotes. In my case. It was the 2413S PLM had issues with communicating with it. As it was close enough the use RF. I found that going to the other end of the house and forcing a Dual Band module to send and receive the RF to the 2450 and send power line signals back to the PLM worked. As a test you may just want to see if trying the 2440 at the other end of the home. Can get you added date on this.

If the Power LED is not on. Try a new power supply. We have seen reports of them failing, including one of mine. It is possible it had enough energy to power it but when powered down and back up. It did not have enough energy to restart correctly.

I would suspect the wall wart power supply getting weak and causing the unit to do a reset for the password issue. They are known to go bad and start causing problems.

Good to read you found the problem. My bet would be on the wall wart supply.

The PSC05/TW523 is long gone for years now. The XTB-523 is still showing. Since it used a unique set of commands and is opto iolator input signals. Probably not a good way to go. I also think the 2413U USB interface still does X10 commands. As long as the eisy can send and receive X10 commands. If you had the A10/X10 add on module. To have the X10 modules displayed in the module tree. I have not seen anything on it for the eisy. X10 support was one of the original selling points and I doubt it would have been removed.

It should not be using I1 as that module is I2CS and is dual band as you found.. I believe some commands are I1 to determine some information before using I2 or I2CS.

The log shows the I1 protocol is being used. That requires a lot of messages between the controller and the module. Also power line only as pointed out. Another thought is something has changed on that circuit. Like a new signal sucker or noise maker. Besides the fact is is old and maybe on its last legs. The 2477D is dual band so both Insteon RF and power line commands are being used and It is an I2CS device. One command for each byte of data and it has a check sum to help verify the message is not damaged.

The one UDI sells last time I looked was 12V 2A. It has a wide voltage range. My failed one was 5V 500mA but it is recommended you go with 1 or 2 amps. 5V and 12V seem to be the choice of many.