Old Surfer Dude

Here is the system information: Model: ISY 994 1024 Platform: ISY-C-994 Version: 5.0.15 Build Timestamp: 2019-04-10-13:28:02

How do I access the Instantaneous Demand from an other program? Background: Quite a few years ago I bought an ISY 994 PRO OADR with the idea that I could monitor my electric meter and compare its data with the two other sources I have that collects energy usage/generation data. I envisioned a program that would request from the device, every 15 seconds, the instantaneous demand and store that data to a file. I got it installed and it is reading the meter just fine, but I never got around to writing the program, mostly because I didn't have a clue of how to access that data. Now I see that the ISY994i is going end-of-life and I have to assume that this device will soon follow. I need to get this done while the device is still being supported. Thus my question. OSD

I was experimenting with status and it appears that when using Status, only the first line of the Then-path is executed. I have that first line execute the Then-path of a second program. Seems to work, but certainly not elegant. MBbathFan Timer 1 - [ID 0034][Parent 0001] If '- / MBbathFan.(ZW 039)ONoff' Status is On Then Run Program 'MBbathFan Timer 2' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') MBbathFan Timer 2 - [ID 0022][Parent 0001] If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Disable Program 'MBbathFan Timer 1' Wait 20 minutes Set '- / MBbathFan.(ZW 039)ONoff' Off Enable Program 'MBbathFan Timer 1' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Firmware and UI v5.30, Z-Wave (21100) If I observe the switch in the Main tab, the state, ON or OFF are indicated correctly When I press the switch on and wait 20 minutes the fan does not turn off. Also, during that 20 minutes, the icon of the program never turns all green. It is my understanding that an all green icon indicates a running program and a program "waiting" is a running program. I confirmed this by right-clicking the program and then clicking on [Run Then]. Attached is the event(3) file "it may use hail so you'd need to set that up" How would I know if it used "hail" and how do I set that up? I tried to query the Z-Wave Configuration Parameters (MainTab-->right click device-->Z-Wave-->Set Configuration Parameter-->[Query] ) which resulted in an Error (dialog box is white with "Error [OK]") ISY-Events-Log.v5.3.0__Mon 2022.09.19 06.45.05.txt

My switch is a EnerWave ZW15XM-Plus I want to turn off the fan 20 minutes after it has been turned on: If '- / MBbathFan.(ZW 039)ONoff' is switched On Then Wait 20 minutes Set '- / MBbathFan.(ZW 039)ONoff' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') This works when I have an Insteon switch, but does with this Z-Wave switch. Why?

@giomania Let us know your experience! OSD

Can you provide a link?

I found this repair site. I sent a message to it yesterday(10 Sep 22), but no response, yet. I have heard that replacing the electrolytic caps will fix "dark" devices. (I just ordered some 6.4μ 400V caps in that hope. I have been looking for a forum where members could discuss how to repair Insteon devices. This will be important for us that are heavily invested. OSD

@MrBillThanks for looking. I can't say for certain if I did those. I am about 70% confident that I did not do the 8PM one. I hoping that someone else had seen this and had a solution. But now I'll be better monitoring the situation and report back with logs Thanks again OSD

Here are some symptoms: Admin Console unresponsive error box but all white login box login box but all white To recover from this, on my windows computer, I close the Java process with the Task Manager. This is pretty annoy, especially since I'm trying to debug some weird stuff going on with the Z-Wave. This could be related. I thought this might have been related to my unsuccessful attempt at using Polyglot 2.7. I backed up my configuration and did a factory reset. I also factory reset the PLM. I restored the configuration and restored the PLM. This had little affect. Perhaps you know this poltergeist? Gregg from error log: Sun 2022/03/20 06:25:56 PM System -10 n/a Sun 2022/03/20 06:53:18 PM System -5 Start Sun 2022/03/20 06:53:23 PM System -110022 /DEF/F6/I1/NLS/EN_US.TXT Sun 2022/03/20 06:53:25 PM System -7115 ID 002D :err=0, tag='cmd', num=4, nest=4, offse Sun 2022/03/20 06:53:27 PM System -7123 ID 0017 :err=0, tag='control', num=6, nest=6, o Sun 2022/03/20 06:53:27 PM System -7123 ID 0027 :err=0, tag='control', num=6, nest=4, o Sun 2022/03/20 06:53:28 PM System -170001 [Network] Established Sun 2022/03/20 07:13:00 PM System -5011 uuid:0 Sun 2022/03/20 08:01:30 PM System -5012 26 Sun 2022/03/20 08:03:03 PM System -5 Start Sun 2022/03/20 08:03:08 PM System -110022 /DEF/F6/I1/NLS/EN_US.TXT Sun 2022/03/20 08:03:10 PM System -7115 ID 002D :err=0, tag='cmd', num=4, nest=4, offse Sun 2022/03/20 08:03:12 PM System -7123 ID 0017 :err=0, tag='control', num=6, nest=6, o Sun 2022/03/20 08:03:12 PM System -7123 ID 0027 :err=0, tag='control', num=6, nest=4, o Sun 2022/03/20 08:03:13 PM System -170001 [Network] Established Sun 2022/03/20 08:12:40 PM System -5011 uuid:0 Mon 2022/03/21 08:03:05 AM System -100 [DHCP] state=RENEW Mon 2022/03/21 07:32:53 PM System -100 [DHCP] state=RENEW I also have an IR module

Thanks @brians Unfortunately, insteon products are in short supply and if you find one, it costs a lot. I am in the process of migrating to polygot to be able to use more cost effect devices. Alas, that is turning into a nightmare, too. OSD

I am trying to upgrade my ISY994ZS PRO: I found this page which instructed me to download this file ISY 994i ZW, Z, or ZS Series (Z-Wave/Zigbee and/or if you do NOT have a PLM). It is a zip file. I click on Help->Manually->Manually Upgrade ISY->[OK]->[YES]->(find folder, modify name)->[Save]->choose Upgrade File->[Open] and then I get the error "Upgrade Failed :Invalid or incompatible upgrade file". I tried both 5.3.0 and 5.3.4. Clearing the Java cache (Control Panel=>Java=>[Settings]=>[Delete Files]) did not help. I have a second ISY994i with both IR and Z-Wave. I ran the above steps, re-installing 5.3.0 which was successful. I had I noticed that on the previously linked page that one should upgrade to 5.3.2. In searching for that release, I found a page that had a link to 5.3.4 I found this link to attempt with 5.2.0 -- No Joy. Help.

I had to get a new start.jlnp file, But now I can't update to the most recent release

Thanks for your input! I have not experienced other communication problems between the devices the PLM/ISY Like I stated, I have an inelegant work-around, but it is always concerning that this may be evidence of other problems. ISY Firmware Insteon_UD994 v.5.3.0 (2020-10-01-14:39:56) UI Insteon_UD994 v.5.3.0 ( 2020-10-01-14:39:56) Product ISY 994i/IR (1130) - OpenADR (21010) - Z-Wave (21100) - Portal Integration - UDI (21075) Devices: FrontPorchSensor-Sensor 2842-222 INSTEON Motion Sensor v.41 FrontPorchLights 2442-222 Micro Module Dimmer v.43 Entry.Ed_FrontPorch: 2486D KeypadLinc Dimmer v.2A Stairs.E_FrontPorch: 2334-2 KeypadLinc Dimmer 8 Buttons V.45 ps, is there a way to turn off the double spacing? OSD

I got this device long ago with the idea I was going to monitor my electric meter and then compare that data to TED Pro Home and from the data I collect directly from my solar panels. I've finally gotten around to looking at the data collection using the ISY994ZS PRO, but I can no longer even access the dashboard. I'm also going to need some help taking putting that data into a file. I will eventually merge the data from all the sources into a spread sheet for analysis. This is just one of the many challenges of this project. PVPower, the manufacturer of the inverter, has long since closed its doors, but fortunately, the information still exists on the web. I'll certainly appreciate any help I can get.

I have a scene with three devices, one of them is the load, the other two are buttons on a keypad. I have a sensor, not in the scene, that triggers the scene to turn ONoff. But the devices don't respond. To add to the challenge, When I look at the scene in the [Main] tab, the devices are indicated as being ONoff but they are not in that state. As a work around, in the program, I issue the command ONoff three times. Interestingly enough, this also occurs when I manually turn ONoff the scene from the ISY in the [Main] tab. The scene works as expected when using the members of the scene. (I use ONoff to indicate both situations of ON or off) My goal is to have the sensor turn ONoff the scene, but not during the day and not if one of the of the buttons had turn the scene on Program to respond to sensor FrontPorchSensorONoff - [ID 0009][Parent 0001] If From Sunset To Sunrise (next day) And ( '- / FrontPorchSensor-Sensor' is switched On And '- / FrontPorchSensor-Sensor' is not switched Off ) Or $PorchLightPersistOn is 1 Then Set 'FrontPorchLights' On Set 'FrontPorchLights' On Set 'FrontPorchLights' On Else Set 'FrontPorchLights' Off Set 'FrontPorchLights' Off Set 'FrontPorchLights' Off Program to set persistence Want to keep the porch lights from coming on during the day. But, if manually switched on, turn them on no matter what and keep them on. For reasons unknown, 3 commands to turn ONoff lights are required to make it work. Program to set persistence FrontPorchPersistsON - [ID 000A][Parent 0001] If ( '- / FrontPorchLights' is switched On Or '- / Entry.Ed_FrontPorch' is switched On Or '- / Stairs.E_FrontPorch' is switched On ) And ( '- / FrontPorchLights' is not switched Off And '- / Entry.Ed_FrontPorch' is not switched Off And '- / Stairs.E_FrontPorch' is not switched Off ) Then $PorchLightPersistOn = 1 Else $PorchLightPersistOn = 0 Set a flag to ensure that the lights remain on

@heardc When I included my device, I was about a meter or so away from my ISY. It was also close when I set the parameters. The magnetic mount made it easy to do this. OSD

Thanks @lilyoyo1! Because you make no mention of problems installing Polyglot-V2 on an existing RPi installation I'll go ahead with that.

Before I dive into Polyglot, I thought I'd check the depth of the waters. I found the instructions to install Polyglot-V2. Seems straight forward enough, but there was no mention of installing it on an existing RPi, that has a desktop, some existing projects, etc. I assume that I open a terminal window and follow the instructions starting at the command line interface. Right? I didn't find a similar set of instructions for -V3. Am I missing something? Ultimately, I hope do run a program on the ISY994i to monitor the wireless remote soil moisture sensors (that I am developing) to control appropriately the valves on my gravity fed irrigation system using MQTT communication. Big elephant, small bites. Ployglot with the MQTT node server looks like one path forward. Thanks for you input! OSD ps, Did I read that node servers are called "Poly's"? Shouldn't they be called "Glots"?

I am using "Model GC-TBZ48 Battery Powered Z-Wave Thermostat" It seems to integrate well into the ISY994i (with z-wave). The only downside I've found with it is the usual z-Wave problems, but none with the device itself. I can't speak to the ability to control the dehumidifier nor the damper. OSD

I was having a heck of time with this. Z-Wave in general wasn't working as expected. I did three things: updated to 5.3.4, ensured that Java was up to date, and cleared the Java cache. Now I needed a way to consistently set the parameters. There are, hopefully, better ways but this worked for me: In the UD admin console, Main tab, in the ISY section 1. Right click the ZSE18 motion sensor entry. 2. Click on Z-Wave 3. Click on Set Configuration Parameter 4. Enter the Parameter Number (e.g. 18) 5. Enter the parameter size (see documentation that came with the device) 1, 2 or 4 bytes e.g. parameter 18 is 2 bytes 6. Enter the value e.g. values for parameter 18 are 3-65548, value+3 equals number of seconds, a value of 42 would be 45 seconds 7. Open the device by twisting the two halves counterclockwise, about 15°, and pull the halves apart. 8. Click on the set button of the dialog box, immediately followed by pressing and holding for 5 seconds the Z-Wave button* of the device. (Manual wake-up mode) 9. The blue light on the device will start to flash after 5 seconds. Release Z-Wave button. (you may get error messages, which you can ignore.) 10. Click on close. *The Z-Wave button is the button bellow the battery (the only button). I agree, it's dumber than dirt, but if you have a better way that works consistently, put it here.

Thanks @lilyoyo1! I like the three flash drives concept. I agree.

Thanks @gzahar!

Thanks for the input! I'd never used "generate topology" before and I think I will find that useful. The copy programs to clipboard will be a bit cumbersome as it generates XML. Yeah it's readable, once you put in line breaks. I think I'd have to write a macro to strip it down. Also, and this is a good thing, I'd have to put more comments in each of my programs. Not only do I have my data in cloud storage, but also in a local NAS. (all of that has to be documented, too.) I appreciate your ideas and I feel like I'm on the right track. It's just going to be a lot of work.

It is important that I document my configuration because eventually someone else will be responsible for the home automation system. I have 40 devices and keeping track of everything even gets tough for me. I envision the first part of the documentation will be a very simple user guide; the location of a device, what it does, and how to operate it. For everyone reading this topic, it's so obvious that documentation is not necessary. But, for those who enter my house, it is anything but obvious. This section is for them. There would be one section for rebuilding the system from a saved configuration. Then there would be section for rebuilding from scratch. This would have links to existing documentation, like manufacturer's docs and ISY wiki installation instructions. There would have to be a database that has location, name and ID. These latter two should be found in a saved configuration file, but I have yet to figure that out. If you have done all of this with your system, can you give me some advice on how to proceed? Thanks OSD