Dethpickle

Thanks, guys. It's still not quite working out the way I envisioned. Using your instructions, MrBill, I have the scene set up with the multiple controllers - each with it's own settings. G shuts off H, H shuts off G - that works, but both of those result in the scene being On. I was aiming for one of them (G on) would be when the scene was Off. I'm thinking we're all doing it correctly, but it's just not designed to do what I have in my head. No biggie, I'll just write a program for it. Thank you for your help!

Hi. I'm a recent v4.x convert from the 944 and having an issue with device states in a scene under eisy v5. I'm trying to use two of the buttons on a KPL8 in one scene. If G is on, the scene is "off" and if H is on, the scene is "on". I have no idea how to set this up with the mobile app or the normal java app. Worse, I don't even know how to adequately search the documentation or forums for this. This seems similar to a three-way switch, save that one of the switches is inverted. Can I do this with purely scene settings or do I have to make a program for it? I'm sure I could handle the program, just that I think I should be able to do it with the scene. I've tried (java app) turning the scene on and then setting the desired state of each switch. Then turning the scene off and setting it again. I've also messed with selecting the individual switches from the left disclosure triangle of the scene and setting the opposite switch Off. But, that never responds to the scene being switched on or off. Probably because the only thing to set is the "On level". Am I missing something or should I just go make a program? I'd appreciate an answer, but I probably appreciate more being directed to the documentation I'm missing. Thanks all. Dave

If you're looking for something like those relays on eBay but want something pretty rock solid, I can recommend these: http://www.digital-loggers.com/din.html I'll caution you on the link... they made the bad choice to have a video auto-play on it. I know that aggravates me, but their product is great. I have two of these that I initially used with the network module to control my sprinklers as well as pool/spa pump, heater and valves. I went that way after reading all the complaints about the insteon devices only lasting a season and being very heat sensitive. Though this module isn't cheap, it seems built like a tank. You can power the device off of just about anything and run each individual relay however you want. I happen to be running all of mine off 24VAC, so a lot of bridging where a power relay could have saved me some connections. I'll be the first to admit that I probably overcomplicated how I did this, but I had a lot of fun doing it. I'm sure I'm not the only here guilty of that. The one on the left runs two pool valves (in and out mixing the pool and spa), controls three speeds on the pool pump (off, low and high) and can turn the pool heater on and off by triggering a remote 24/110 relay to kick it on. They're all powered by the 24vac I'm pulling off the AC at the bottom - just a normal Hunter sprinkler power supply. The units draw next to nothing and don't have many relays closed at once anyway. The one on the right is all sprinklers. It's basically a straight drop-in replacement for the Rainbird that was outside. The distribution block in the middle right basically runs out to where the old sprinkler timer was; there is another block there and that wires in place of it. It's plugged into my local network with a local network address. My ISY can talk to it with the network module and Home Assistant can do the same. Since combining my ISY with Home Assistant, I've taken most of the day to day control off of the ISY and put it on HA. I like the web interface and I contributed a platform module for HA that makes that brand of relays just show up in HA like normal switches. It makes it easy to make scenes and scripts - not that it's all that hard on ISY. Just that it's never been very Mac friendly. I'm thinking I'll be one of those liking the 5.x when it's less experimental. The ISY is great control, but not what I'm looking for in interface.

Okay... I'm fighting/learning this too. But why, if my folder condition is "On Sat, Tue; Time is 5:00:00AM" does it Green up all the programs under it at that time and leave them green for seemingly hours, instead of just for that single minute or point (run) in time? I'd expect it to have a single shot at running before the instant was gone or, more likely, never run if the programs in the folder contained state variables that didn't change in that interval. Background on this is I'm trying to schedule sprinklers. I want a series of network programs to run in a program at a certain time, but only if the wind is calm. I can have a single program with the AND condition of Time AND wind (climate module) and this works. But if it doesn't run because of high wind, I want to be notified. To get out of the trap of a Then constantly notifying me of it not being the right time, I have to separate the IFs. So I Time conditioned a folder and put just the Wind as the IF on the program in it. Problem there is the program doesn't run at the Time, but runs constantly every time there is a climate module update in the hours after the Time. I understand it's the "state"-ness of the climate variable that's getting the second behavior, but why is the Time door staying open when it seems it should just be for an instant? Here you can see it's 10:30-ish and the folder is still green.